Boycott Arma2 Until Bi support legitimate addon developers.

[PSYCHOSIM 0]

This new thread has been created to display the displeasure of the community about the current situation involving addon theft and the apparant lack of support that BI and the forum Moderators are giving to the developers of addons that have been stolen.

If you agree with this line of thought, add a message, though I know the Moderators will close this thread ASAP, even though they never challenger those doing wrong in the community.

Thanks for reading.

[PhilippRauch 0]

If you think you have been robbed, just post the offending parties names here or some other thread. It sounds like this stupid behaviour is quite common (i.e. using addons other people made and distributing them as your own, if that is what you mean with theft), could you explain further? Boycotting a game that 'might' introduce tools at some point to counter 'addon theft' also wont help IMHO.

I support original work, no question about it!

I would rather put those 'thieves' upfront any forum i could reach to put out the truth about their dirty behaviour and as such make the community boycott their stolen addons.

Is that what you mean?

[Takko 10]

I do not agree and I won't boycott anything lol,

BIS owes you nothing and they support Addonmakers in a great manner,

such as

Signing your Addon

Binarize it

These are two things holding 60% of people who do steal back.

PS: Do you want to boycott rockstar games as well for not even giving

mod tools (the community made its own and I see nothing wrong in it)

Edited April 22, 2009 by Takko

[PSYCHOSIM 0]

What we want is for the Moderators and BI to stand up and say enough of Addon theft and to do what they can to penalise those guilty of theft.......

[blazer01 0]

so wot addons do you think as been robbed from addon makers for one how do You know thay have Roobbed tham the addon makers may have let Bi use tham for arma 2

did you think of that

[Jackal326 1181]

Lol, dis thread is hilarious and filled with lies.

I do not agree and I won't boycott anything lol,

BIS owes you nothing and they support Addonmakers in a great manner,

such as

Signing you Addon

Binarize it

These are two things holding 60% of people who do theft back.

PS: Do you want to Boycott rockstar games as well for not even giving

mod tools (the community made its own and I see nothing wrong in it)

There is nothing hilarious or even mildly amusing about "dis thread", addon theft, or your English. Actually, the last part is mildly amusing.

On a more on-topic note, as PhilippRauch said, boycotting the game wont work, it'll only make things worse, as the only people that will stick around are the arseholes who steal things in the first-place.

so wot addons do you think as been robbed from addon makers for one how do You know thay have Roobbed tham the addon makers may have let Bi use tham for arma 2

did you think of that

Its not an issue of BIS stealing addons and using them in ArmA2, it is an issue of community members stealing addons from other community members and passing them off as their own work.

Edited April 22, 2009 by Jackal326

[Takko 10]

What we want is for the Moderators and BI to stand up and say enough of Addon theft and to do what they can to penalise those guilty of theft.......

We? weeee????

What to do my friend? Just what? We already have got 2 options. Some games like GRAW II or Mafia offer even

no encryption.

There is nothing hilarious or even mildly amusing about "dis thread", addon theft, or your English. Actually, the last part is mildly amusing (youse wanna teach me in english?)

I'm sorry but its not ment hilarious and I'm tipping from a phone right now as i'm not present at home at the moment.

Edited April 22, 2009 by Takko

[Guest RKSL-Rock]

C'mon guys. This situation isnt the fault of BIS and certainly doesnt warrant a boycott of BIS products.

This problem rests firmly within the community accepting the actions of a few rougues. Yes I would like more support from BIS within the community. But this isnt the way to get it.

Edited April 22, 2009 by RKSL-Rock
typos

[Deadfast 43]

How about instead of boycotting BIS we boycott those who steal others' work?

[adumb 0]

I won't be boycotting anything. i don't buy video games just to install mods.

What needs to happen is PBO's start getting locked down in better ways or install small tracking tojans. (just kidding on the trojan part)

[mattxr 9]

I thought all addons belonged to BIS anyways, the ones made using their tools?

[Zipper5 74]

C'mon guys. This situation isnt the fault of BIS and certainly doesnt warrant a boycott of BIS products.

This problem rests firmly within the community accepting the actions of a few rougues. Yes I would like more support from BIS within the community. But this isnt the way to get it.

Seconded. This isn't the right way to go about doing it. Request the maker's addon to be pulled from hosting/posts. I'm pretty certain all of the community websites will react immediately to that request, no questions asked, if sufficient proof is provided to show that the maker stole an addon.

[Takko 10]

This problem rests firmly within the community accepting the actions of a few rougues.

I agree in that part. A lot of people do not care from who the addon is,

just that the addon is present.

[sk3pt 0]

While I despise these damn thieves and terrorists, boycotting ArmA II is just ridiculous. Some people are just retards with no moral sense whatsoever, and there is nothing BIS can do about that. Who knows, maybe they'll include the genemodification.pbo in ArmA II ?

[faguss 65]

Once you've released your addon, it's public domain. If you can't accept this - disable your internet connection.

[twisted 128]

name and shame is better than a call to boycott.

[Wolfrug 0]

Um. As others have said: if an addon is found to be "stolen", and sufficient proof can be found to support this, then the addon will no longer be hosted by any reputable addon-hosting site, the people responsible will probably get banned from various community sites, and so on - hopefully also from these forums, but that's up to the moderators here. At least all threads that have had stolen addons in them here so far have been locked and download links removed pending investigation.

And if the addon isn't hosted on any proper site nor linked to here, then it's practically "for private use only" anyway, eh? I mean - there's nothing you can DO to stop people from messing with your addons once they're out there, nothing at all. But as long as they can't pass your work off as their own, they're not really winning anything.

Regards,

Wolfrug

[JdB 151]

Please stop blaming BIS, as it is not their fault, but the community as a whole for not taking collective action against this problem. BIS has already done a lot of work through the option of binarizing to prevent a lot of problems.

We have started reaching out to newssites and addonmakers/mods to work out a solution as much as possible for the cases where binarizing is not an effective counter/preventive measure such as leaks.

Please stop pointing fingers at anyone, since it doesn't help at all.

[Xanthus 0]

Once you've released your addon, it's public domain. If you can't accept this - disable your internet connection.

Quoted for emphasis.

[celery 8]

I still don't get it. Who has stolen, what has been stolen and how is BIS responsible?

[SWT_Janowich 10]

I've got an Idea! We're open an thread and if we see an Addon on a newspage and have doubts, we share it.

Thats the only good way to manage and handle this problem

[blazer01 0]

There is nothing hilarious or even mildly amusing about "dis thread", addon theft, or your English. Actually, the last part is mildly amusing.

On a more on-topic note, as PhilippRauch said, boycotting the game wont work, it'll only make things worse, as the only people that will stick around are the arseholes who steal things in the first-place.

Its not an issue of BIS stealing addons and using them in ArmA2, it is an issue of community members stealing addons from other community members and passing them off as their own work.

ya i get it now it wos just the way he put it me dumb lol but ya boycotting the game wont work at all and as for the community members who r doing this than all i can say is just name and shame tham so we all know who it is and to keep a way from tham

if it wos any of the stuff am doing got robbed off me bysome one than id be asking admins to ban tham and name him or her for doing it thay is no need to peeps to do this all it takes is a min to pm the addon maker and ask

i wos going to ask rkls if i can do a new skin for the Lynx as am hopeing to do a tiger meet pack some time looks like its a big no now thanks to the frackers whos doing this hope your happy now soz for this but its pissed me off a lot its not on at all

[Guest]

How about instead of boycotting BIS we boycott those who steal others' work?

As this seems to be popular I wanted to quote for truth as well.

This is all a matter of within the community and not the fault of BIS. At the same time your community is already working to find a way to prevent this as much as possible and otherwise limit the accesof those who are guilty of such.

Don't boycott the wrong party, but instead help those who are trying to fight it.

More info soon.

[Kristian 47]

Its stupid to blame BIS for someone stealing someone's stuff -.-

[oldbear 390]

@SWT_Janowich : I am having a strange feeling about your post ... what is the idea behind ?

Do you boycott a car maker because your car radio has been stolen ? You know of course that "addon theft" is NOT under the BIS responsibility but a community problem, so what is your real intent proposing a boycott now as ArmA2 is going to be lauched?

What is your real purpose ?