das attorney 858 Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) If you're going to OC it then a bigger PSU would be better. For the CPU cooler I picked up one of the Corsair H50 watercoolers and it's made my temperatures much more manageable, even at 3.8Ghz. If you did want to get one of them, make sure it will fit in your case. I had to go out and get a bigger one as it wouldn't fit in my Elite 335. EDIT: Is that from PC specialist? Edited March 14, 2010 by Das Attorney Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted March 14, 2010 Anyone know if HDD RAID would do anything good for ARMA2? Lets say you had 2 VelociRaptors running RAID. Would that decrease loading stutters etc? I know about ramdisk and ssd etc. Just wondering if anyone has any experience or/and knowledge in the RAID departement. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azbo87 10 Posted March 14, 2010 I have windows 7, core i7 920, 4 gig ram, radeon 4890 and my performance is awful. sometimes get just over 30 fps at medium-high settings. On mission harvest red and its between 17-29 fps. Pretty unplayable considering the spec. Any ideas how I could improve performance? Game is updated, hard drive de-fragged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted March 14, 2010 Do you have Hyperthreading disabled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 14, 2010 Anyone know if HDD RAID would do anything good for ARMA2? Lets say you had 2 VelociRaptors running RAID. Would that decrease loading stutters etc?I know about ramdisk and ssd etc. Just wondering if anyone has any experience or/and knowledge in the RAID departement. Thanks. Don't waste money on VRs, just buy WD "Blacks", they are just as good and the newer ones are actually faster in some cases. Sadly, as with SSDs, it's not going to help much with the stuttering but it will increase loading times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedudeabides 40 Posted March 14, 2010 Alex72, I just got a Intel 40GB SSD for Arma2 and let me tell you. It is awsome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) Don't waste money on VRs, just buy WD "Blacks", they are just as good and the newer ones are actually faster in some cases.Sadly, as with SSDs, it's not going to help much with the stuttering but it will increase loading times. Thanks bud. Need as much info i can get atm on this as im close to buying it all. You would recommend 2 HD's though? One for OS and the rest plus another for A2. So the virtual mem goes on the OS one? Just want this HD thing to be as good as possible. CIB2005: Im looking at that as well. Choices hmmm... :) EDIT: So a bigger for OS etc and a SSD for A2 would be good then? EDIT2: Update Ok so what about these parts: -Intel Core i7 930 2,8GHz -Asus ATX Intel X58 (P6T Deluxe V2) -Gigabyte Geforce GTX 260+ Super OC UDV 896MB DDR3 (GPU - GeForce GTX 275 Super OC UDV 448-bit) -OCZ Gold XTC 6144MB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (8-8-8-24) (3x2048MB) -Corsair 32GB X32 Extreme Intern SATA II 2.5" (SSD) (maybe getting 64MB version) -Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB (7200RPM / 32MB Cache) -Fractal Design Newton R2, 650W, modular, 80 PLUS (50A 12V) So a SSD for ARMA and a WD Black 500GB for the rest should be good i hope. Maybe the PSU needs to go to 800W but it seems so far the 650W is ok as its a good brand. The mobo is prepped for future SLI/SLI QUAD if that will be needed. And the "crappy" video card is just for now as i will move it to my other pc very soon. I will have to check around for a good video card fitting the system more properly. I thaught of these RAMs first: OCZ Platinum XTC 6144MB DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (7-7-7-20) (3x2048MB) (OCZ3P1333LV6GK). I understand lower timings is better but the other one up in my list is 1600mhz and these ones 1333mhz. Wich is better? Or are the basically the same? Same price. Thanks. Edited March 15, 2010 by Alex72 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Thanks bud. Need as much info i can get atm on this as im close to buying it all. You would recommend 2 HD's though? One for OS and the rest plus another for A2. So the virtual mem goes on the OS one?Just want this HD thing to be as good as possible. CIB2005: Im looking at that as well. Choices hmmm... :) EDIT: So a bigger for OS etc and a SSD for A2 would be good then? EDIT2: Update Ok so what about these parts: -Intel Core i7 930 2,8GHz -Asus ATX Intel X58 (P6T Deluxe V2) -Gigabyte Geforce GTX 260+ Super OC UDV 896MB DDR3 (GPU - GeForce GTX 275 Super OC UDV 448-bit) -OCZ Gold XTC 6144MB DDR3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (8-8-8-24) (3x2048MB) -Corsair 32GB X32 Extreme Intern SATA II 2.5" (SSD) (maybe getting 64MB version) -Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB (7200RPM / 32MB Cache) -Fractal Design Newton R2, 650W, modular, 80 PLUS (50A 12V) So a SSD for ARMA and a WD Black 500GB for the rest should be good i hope. Maybe the PSU needs to go to 800W but it seems so far the 650W is ok as its a good brand. The mobo is prepped for future SLI/SLI QUAD if that will be needed. And the "crappy" video card is just for now as i will move it to my other pc very soon. I will have to check around for a good video card fitting the system more properly. I thaught of these RAMs first: OCZ Platinum XTC 6144MB DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (7-7-7-20) (3x2048MB) (OCZ3P1333LV6GK). I understand lower timings is better but the other one up in my list is 1600mhz and these ones 1333mhz. Wich is better? Or are the basically the same? Same price. Thanks. Steer clear of Corsair SSDs. I'd go with OCZ or Intel TBH. In the final analysis however, whether you put A2 on an SSD or a fast HDD, you are still going to get some stuttering. RAMdrive is the only real way to almost eliminate it. That RAM (OCZ) is very good and spending more for something with slightly lower timings will lighten your wallet by $xx.xx and nothing else where gaming (and most everything else) is concerned. 650W is fine for what you have detailed there. The rest is all good. Edited March 15, 2010 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Steer clear of Corsair SSDs. I'd go with OCZ or Intel TBH. In the final analysis however, whether you put A2 on an SSD or a fast HDD, you are still going to get some stuttering. RAMdrive is the only real way to almost eliminate it.That RAM is very good and spending $500.00 more for something with slightly lower timings will lighten your wallet by $500.00 and nothing else where gaming (and most everything else) is concerned. 650W is fine for what you have detailed there. The rest is all good. Thanks mate appreciate it. Ill think i stay with the RAM's for now to get the damn thing built or ill keep jumping back and forth between HW. :) I can always upgrade later and im in a good position as im making my old PC into an A2 dedi server. I will move over some parts as i get new ones and all i have to buy is an AMD phenom X4 for it. Then buy more RAM and move over those above and the dedi is made. :) But the SSD or no SSD is the last thingy then hmmmm.... Maybe get 2GB RAM extra and go RAMDISK with A2. Load it up everytime i play. But does that break the i7 tri channel thingy? That i7 likes to work with tri channel. Dear lord HW goes fast forward and im starting to lose touch lol. :D EDIT: This is where i will buy my stuff. RAM pages linked here: http://www.webhallen.com/list.php?avd=3&konsol=13&genre=2518 Bottom shows 3 pages with RAM. Anything better? Edited March 15, 2010 by Alex72 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) But the SSD or no SSD is the last thingy then hmmmm.... Maybe get 2GB RAM extra and go RAMDISK with A2. Load it up everytime i play. But does that break the i7 tri channel thingy? That i7 likes to work with tri channel. Dear lord HW goes fast forward and im starting to lose touch lol. :D SSD's are great. They do speed up overall system performance etc. They really don't bring a lot to the table in terms of in game performance (and that's in respect of any game, not just ArmA 2). http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=42585&vpn=OCZSSD2-2SLD60G&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=49278&vpn=OCZSSD2-2SLD30G&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=48984&vpn=SSDSA2MP040G2R5SINGLE&manufacture=Intel I'd still recommend a small fast SSD for the system and things you use often. I run my A2 off SSDs, but I have run it off RAID0 HDD's as well and I really didn't notice a difference. The stuttering was really minimal. At then end of the day, it's really all down to preference. I use my RAM for other apps so I really can't be bothered with the whole RAMdrive thing but, for the absolutely best performance in A2, it is the king. Edited March 15, 2010 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted March 15, 2010 Damn prices are LOW there! I'll look around but i'll buy my gear from a shop. Straight into my hands. So the best solution seems to be: SSD = System, WD BLACK = All junk, RAMDRIVE = ARMA2. This sounds cool and awesome to me so i think that will be what i do. Unless someone steps in now and say im completelly wrong LOL! :) Thanks BangTail for the tips mate. Good stuff. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Damn prices are LOW there! I'll look around but i'll buy my gear from a shop. Straight into my hands. So the best solution seems to be: SSD = System, WD BLACK = All junk, RAMDRIVE = ARMA2. This sounds cool and awesome to me so i think that will be what i do. Unless someone steps in now and say im completelly wrong LOL! :) Thanks BangTail for the tips mate. Good stuff. ;) That configuration will work fine and you're welcome mate, have fun :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalcraze 290 Posted March 15, 2010 This my new rig :AMD Phenom II x4 965, ATI Radeon 5850 1 GB, 4 GB Ram I will buy the game on Monday. Can I run the game with good FPS on high settings? Your system is way more than enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJF 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Your system is way more than enough. You'd hope so :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRLEGEND 10 Posted March 15, 2010 I'm having trouble scoring the an HD 5970 Graphics adapter, anybody know of in any reputable online shops? As of right now I have them all on notifying me but I've already got swindled by a company that took my money and then put the thing on back order. I had to wrestle my cash back from them...while missing out on other opportunities. Appreciate the help guys I'm on my way...slowly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) The card is in high demand, look for a shop that has some in stock and order there. I can only find one shop that has them and there they're 100 euros more expensive than at the cheapest shop. 5870's are (slightly) more obtainable I think. I doubt it's much slower for arma 2, ati's drivers/crossfire profiles are probably more focussed on mw2 and bc2. Edited March 15, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 15, 2010 I'm having trouble scoring the an HD 5970 Graphics adapter, anybody know of in any reputable online shops? As of right now I have them all on notifying me but I've already got swindled by a company that took my money and then put the thing on back order. I had to wrestle my cash back from them...while missing out on other opportunities.Appreciate the help guys I'm on my way...slowly There is a major supply problem with the 5970 due to low yields etc. Even the big chains are only getting a few here and a few there. 2 x 5870 is actually faster than a stock clocked 5970 although you can OC the 5970 as they are made with the highest binned GPUs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MRLEGEND 10 Posted March 15, 2010 There is a major supply problem with the 5970 due to low yields etc.Even the big chains are only getting a few here and a few there. 2 x 5870 is actually faster than a stock clocked 5970 although you can OC the 5970 as they are made with the highest binned GPUs. Thank you Tell me about it, there is a severe demand and a measly supply. The manufacturers are shipping 5 units per week. I just scored one, and they said that they had 150 and were down to 2 by noon. I thought about 2x 5870's but I'm thinking future proof here, I assume that Arma 3 will need 2x 5970's though. or probably 3 with the all new Tri-fire gpu config we haven't heard about yet lol I've looked at many benchmarks and we're talking no more than 5 fps difference. I can live with that given the potential Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted March 15, 2010 is 64 bit with AMD good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 16, 2010 is 64 bit with AMD good? What do you mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted March 16, 2010 im going to buy a comp and should it be a 64 bit comp with an AMD graphics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leon86 13 Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) every modern comp can run x64, I see no reason not to do it, but a 32bit will also run. AMD/nvidia grapics doesn't really matter, just make sure it's reasonably fast dedicated (so no onboard or on processor) grapics card. look for something in the top5 rows here, that will surely be fast enough to play Edited March 16, 2010 by Leon86 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solidsnake2384 10 Posted March 16, 2010 kk thanks for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted March 16, 2010 (edited) I assume that Arma 3 will need 2x 5970's though. or probably 3 with the all new Tri-fire gpu config we haven't heard about yet lol. I doubt it ;) ArmA 2 isn't really GPU reliant beyond a point. 5970CF are heavily limited by CPU horsepower, even a 980x is not enough to drive those effectively. Only 10 days until shiny new Nvidia cards :) /rubshands Edited March 16, 2010 by BangTail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Whoatherefatty 10 Posted March 16, 2010 I doubt it ;) ArmA 2 isn't really GPU reliant beyond a point. 5970CF are heavily limited by CPU horsepower, even a 980x is not enough to drive those effectively. Only 10 days until shiny new Nvidia cards :) /rubshands It's a common thought that pc developers just want to make the most demanding games out there and sell newer hardware. The developers don't make money from hardware, they make it on game sales. They want as many people playing as possible. The day a game comes out that requires a $400+ GPU is the day I stay home playing old games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites