volkov956 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Crazy eh they stated that to a user last year as well was great to see that actually as I browse the site here and there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sennacherib 0 Posted April 6, 2008 this is your post? http://www.gsc-game.com/index.php?t=community&s=forums〈=en Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted April 6, 2008 this is your post?http://www.gsc-game.com/index.php?t=community&s=forums〈=en that's actually the forum index. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lebson506th 0 Posted April 6, 2008 http://www.gsc-game.com/index.p....ec_id=1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sennacherib 0 Posted April 6, 2008 sorry Lebson has put the same link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icebreakr 3156 Posted April 6, 2008 More points for GSC, awesome. Weapons (hint,hint) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSRsniper 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Its legal to use the models? What is this then? If you have THQ version: "OWNERSHIP: All right, title and interest and intellectual property rights in and to the Software (including but not limited to any titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialog, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, images, photographs, animations, video, sounds, audio-visual effects, music, musical compositions, text and "applets," incorporated into the Software), the accompanying printed materials, and any copies of the Software, are owned by THQ or its licensors. You shall not modify the Software or merge the Software into another computer Program (except to the extent the Software is made to operate within a computer operating system and in connection with other computer program) or create derivative works based upon the Software. " Don't see how its legal.... Only if you have russian version of STALKER, you can use it. But if not THQ might find out... I hope if you have THQ version of STALKER, THQ is aware that you are porting the models from game... Â Â GSC allows it, but THQ is not.. How weird is that? Â Placebo http://www.gsc-game.com/index.p....ec_id=1 Just to make you aware, this link is not official statement, none of those people who posted there, work for GSC. So its not official word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted April 6, 2008 @USSRsniper If THQ version says this : "Buy THQ version , play it then go jump from high bridge , if u die THQ will give u money back " Â BTW THQ like Codemasters with Flashpoint ,but Codemasters aren't owners of whole game , only a name of it and some other things , the same is with Stalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSRsniper 0 Posted April 6, 2008 @USSRsniperIf THQ version says this : "Buy THQ version , play it then go jump from high bridge , if u die THQ will give u money back " Â BTW THQ like Codemasters with Flashpoint ,but Codemasters aren't owners of whole game , only a name of it and some other things , the same is with Stalker Then where is official word, on usage of models from STALKER, not some user on forums that doesn't even work for GSC.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Snafu- 78 Posted April 6, 2008 @USSRsniperIf THQ version says this : "Buy THQ version , play it then go jump from high bridge , if u die THQ will give u money back " BTW THQ like Codemasters with Flashpoint ,but Codemasters aren't owners of whole game , only a name of it and some other things , the same is with Stalker Then where is official word, on usage of models from STALKER, not some user on forums that doesn't even work for GSC.. It was not even a user that posted that but the forum moderator. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted April 6, 2008 I saw one , he asked GSC team , i dunno what his name was ,but GSC send him PM and theres was a big surprise : Inside of that was a permission given . Of course his massage and GSC was in ukrain/rus language. If u want , u can ask some CS compilers in cdg forums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted April 6, 2008 Exactly my thinking after I read that forum post. The word is from a forum moderator, not an official from GSC. It's the same as if I would say here "You can do with ArmA content whatever you want." The statement from that moderator might be true, not saying he's playing some foul game - but it's not really something official. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enixj7 0 Posted April 6, 2008 It makes zero sense that a mod, of all of people would say that on the official forums unless it was true, so questioning the source is really quite stupid. Looking forward to the release! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USSRsniper 0 Posted April 6, 2008 It makes zero sense that a mod, of all of people would say that on the official forums unless it was true, so questioning the source is really quite stupid.Looking forward to the release! Looking forward to release? buy stalker and you can use it right away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted April 6, 2008 It makes zero sense that a mod, of all of people would say that on the official forums unless it was true, so questioning the source is really quite stupid.Looking forward to the release! Thanks for calling me stupid. Of course you do not question this because all you care about when you can play with it on Rahmadi for 5 minutes before you go over to the next addon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lebson506th 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Owned. On topic: If you really doubt it, the OP can PM the mods of that forum asking for proof which he can then pass on to us. Sound reasonable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enixj7 0 Posted April 6, 2008 Wolle thats quite a childish response and I would expect more maturity especially from a moderator. The argument is very obvious, why would a Moderator of an official forum say that its fine to use material from Stalker if in fact it wasn't? It doesn't make logical sense, he would have nothing gain and probably would lose his position as a moderator so he must have a very good reason to say its fine, that reason being the issue has been raised before. It is not something you simply make up on the spot. You can't argue logic. Actually wolf you will find in STALKER you can't drive it unless you have a mod, and even it leaves a lot to be desired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datakill 1 Posted April 6, 2008 Hey Mechastalin, that BTR looks great, keep up the good work mate ! Looking forward to the release Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted April 6, 2008 The excerpt from the EULA says that THQ owns all of the artwork, meaning that even if GSC gave you permission to use their artwork, they have no right to do so because they don't own their work. This agreement they have with THQ may not be analogous to the one that BI formerly had with Codemasters. As I recall, GSC were pretty desperate for funding to complete their game, and THQ asked for a lot of changes to it. As for Siro, I used to go on those forums quite a bit until Stalker ceased to bare even a casual resemblance to its original concept. That Siro guy posted once that he once was sitting in his apartment in Russia, cleaning a pistol while it was loaded. I can't remember if he ND'd or not, but I remember being quite flabberghasted by the way it turned out. Siro is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. I would seek a higher authority. Perhaps Oleg can answer your questions, he is the Maruk (either that or the Placebo) of GSC, IIRC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmaVidz 0 Posted April 7, 2008 Probably best if a moderator from this forum, messaged the company requesting information about it. It's a little unorthodox, but would put that question to bed. Would probably solicit a quicker response as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted April 7, 2008 Probably best if a moderator from this forum, messaged the company requesting information about it. It's a little unorthodox, but would put that question to bed. Would probably solicit a quicker response as well. I don't see why we should do the job of the addonmaker, getting proper and undoubtful permission to use content from another game in ArmA is solely the job of the guy(s) making the addon. Not that we won't support this project or trying to stop it but dealing now with that legal stuff and copyrights is simply not what we (voluntary) mods are for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmaVidz 0 Posted April 7, 2008 Probably best if a moderator from this forum, messaged the company requesting information about it. It's a little unorthodox, but would put that question to bed. Would probably solicit a quicker response as well. Â I don't see why we should do the job of the addonmaker, getting proper and undoubtful permission to use content from another game in ArmA is solely the job of the guy(s) making the addon. Not that we won't support this project or trying to stop it but dealing now with that legal stuff and copyrights is simply not what we (voluntary) mods are for. Nah I know. My frame of mind was that the comments from the GSC Moderator were provided in the thread(and right after Placebo asked for them - I sent via PM) then the comments legitamacy were questioned. I by no means would like a precident set, but to gain to accurate information on the subject from the horses mouth, in the case of a retraction by THQ or GSC, might save a lot of bickering. My quoted comment on the subject was positively worded to avoid "ifs" "maybe's" and instead provide "positives" if a moderator felt he had the intiative or want to do so. Not that any moderator should feel responsible to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparks50 0 Posted April 7, 2008 Or just send the studio a mail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted April 7, 2008 My frame of mind was that the comments from the GSC Moderator were provided in the thread(and right after Placebo asked for them - I sent via PM) then the comments legitamacy were questioned. And questioning Siro's word is done in good faith! For one, Siro, afaik, is not a GSC employee. For two, he's actually kind of a moron... actually, that's a bit unfair. He WAS kind of a moron a few years ago. His word isn't necessarily the policy of GSC.. and the key word is necessarily. Legally, what Siro is saying is hearsay. If you were to get authorization from someone like Oleg, on the otherhand, if he still works there, his word would necessarily be policy and would likely bare much more weight during some hypothetical legal proceeding after the fact. Siro's word isn't any sort of authority. He's only a fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KastaRules 0 Posted April 7, 2008 I really loved this vehicle in STALKER and I've been waiting for this conversion! I just can't wait for it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites