New sniper system?

[churnedfortaste 0]

This is in relation to the 'Sniping' thread, http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....98;st=0

which discusses the use of adjust windage and elevation on sniper rifle scopes and talks about ways it could be implented through an add-on.

Who would like to see this officially added by BIS eventually?

Who thinks it should have been in ArmA from the start?

Who thinks it's not worth going into?

http://www.shooterready.com/lrsdemolow.html

Here is an example of what the system would be similar to if it existed in ArmA.

[sirex 0]

tbh sniping in arma isnt easy, not becuase the game makes it hard, but because the players dont play like real people. its pretty hard to hit people running at 800 meters in arma.

i think adding more things to make it harder would just make it pointless.

its about right at the moment, if you dont want to get sniped, stay in cover or keep moving

edit: btw "No, this would be too realistic for ArmA" is a loaded answer, arma is meant to be a simulator so your directing voters to one option. you evil man !

[churnedfortaste 0]

tbh sniping in arma isnt easy, not becuase the game makes it hard, but because the players dont play like real people. its pretty hard to hit people running at 800 meters in arma.

i think adding more things to make it harder would just make it pointless.

its about right at the moment, if you dont want to get sniped, stay in cover or keep moving

Yes but its supposed to be a realistic combat simulator

It would make sniping as much a skill as piloting or being a squad leader, and added difficulty would eliminate reasons for accusations of someone being a 'whore' or 'camper'

[operation madman 0]

I am 100% realism dude.

This is a simulater or at leats part of vbs2. This game should consentrate on realism and not public demands. If you want it to be sort of realistic then make a mod that has that quality. if arma does get to realistic to your taste.

[churnedfortaste 0]

Quote[/b] ]btw "No, this would be too realistic for ArmA" is a loaded answer, arma is meant to be a simulator so your directing voters to one option. you evil man !

Too realistic is the only reason why it wouldn't be accepted, and its not forcing people to answer one answer, It is just stating the only significant reason why it can't be implemented...

[rick rawlings 2]

Too realistic is the only reason why it wouldn't be accepted, and its not forcing people to answer one answer, It is just stating the  only significant reason why it can't be implemented...

Whoah! Whatdya work for Fox News or something? While I would love to see windage and adjustable optics rather than just guessing or memorizing a dot location for different ranges, neutral responses are the norm for legitimate polling purposes. Realism is not the only reason someone would not want this and you will diminish the impact of your poll if you resort to conjecture.

Rick

[Bingo 0]

I am 100% realism dude.

This is a simulater or at leats part of vbs2. This game should consentrate on realism and not public demands. If you want it to be sort of realistic then make a mod that has that quality. if arma does get to realistic to your taste.

If it's 100% realism you're looking for, I suggest you buy VBS...

ArmA has to make money for the publishers, and also doesn't want to make the buyers of VBS look like fools.

ArmA is a video game, end of story.

Sorry mate.

[Big Dawg KS 6]

Where's the "There are more important priorities" option?

[frederf 0]

1. This is a loaded poll. The second option might as well state we like the taste of babyflesh.

2. Adding in adjustable elevation sights would make shooting EASIER not HARDER.

3. There are slightly more important things to fix in ArmA but this is one of the major ones.

Despite agreeing with the poll maker's obvious preference, this poll is severely biased in its phrasing.

Why are people afraid of adjustable sights? It's not going to make shooting any harder. If you don't like using them, then just leave it at BZ (battlefield zero) and you won't notice any change at all from old ArmA!

Are you tired of no iron sights for the M203? Are you tired of having to cover the BMP2 totally with your M136 AT4 sights and praying you don't miss? If BIS made adjustable sights all of the above would stop being an issue. Adjustable elevation doesn't just help Johnny sniper, it helps Billy AT gunner, and Frank the Grenadier.

Heck adjustable sights could help mortars become a reality, could assist the simulation of armored vehicles, and of course it could be applied to Tom the iron sight infantryman too.

[memnoch 0]

1. This is a loaded poll. The second option might as well state we like the taste of babyflesh.

Grilled or fried?

[NoRailgunner 0]

@KyleSarnik

You can make a poll!

@"wannabe-snipers"

ArmA is a game at tactical level. If you want "sniper conditions" feel free to make addon/mod with scout-missions.

VBS2 is more a product for training military/security users.

[operation madman 0]

I am 100% realism dude.

This is a simulater or at leats part of vbs2. This game should consentrate on realism and not public demands. If you want it to be sort of realistic then make a mod that has that quality. if arma does get to realistic to your taste.

If it's 100% realism you're looking for, I suggest you buy VBS...

ArmA has to make money for the publishers, and also doesn't want to make the buyers of VBS look like fools.

ArmA is a video game, end of story.

Sorry mate.

I am going to buy vbs2 but part by part. becuase 1500 upfront is.. well.. ALOT!!

[NoRailgunner 0]

VBS2 "part by part"

rtfm - you have to buy a License!

[JallaTryne 0]

I would like a poll for "adjustable scope", but no wind. I dont think wind would be easily implemented for the sniper to judge.

[dirtylarrygb 0]

I would like a poll for "adjustable scope", but no wind. I dont think wind would be easily implemented for the sniper to judge.

I would like wind to affect shots over 200 m's.

As for the judge, thats easy a little wind arrow to simulate the wind against your face.

But then I also think SAW barrels should overheat!

[Col. Faulkner 0]

The various sailboat simulator programs use various ways

to indicate wind strength and direction, so it's not an

impossible task. Whether adding wind itself to the ArmA

engine is as straightforward is another question, of course.

I'd vote "yes" for adjustable sights on all the weapons. Even

just a couple of settings would be OK for most weapons. It

could even be an option that you could switch on or off as

desired in the "options" screen, if you don't like it.

People are always talking about buying VBS2. I was given

to understand that it was not going to be for sale to the

general public.

[Wolfrug 0]

@Faulkner

There is, as you know, already wind in ArmA (smoke plumes moving, flags flapping in the wind... also Solus' SLX mod in OFP featured the effect of wind on flying etc. So it's even moddable/"reachable" by us normal mortals....somehow O.o). Making the wind affect bullets should by all means be perfectly possible.

Question is, if it'd be -efficient-, CPU-wise? Maybe if they cheated, and just added a config value to certain magazines/bullet types, like "windaffects = 1" or something (since Tom the Grunt probably won't be engaging targets above a certain range anyway without a sniper rifle).

As to adjustable sights : hear hear! Someone said something about making mortars and the like work, and -that- my friends is something we'd all like to see, no? Imagine it : by using the compass, you can easily (well, with a bit of math) triangulate a location with a FO, and then, by approximating distance, you can have your mortar dude adjust his sights, and bam -> real, instant, non-simulated artillery. Booyah!

So I'm all for adjustable sights. ^_^ But nothing I can't live without!

/Wolfrug

[Boweavel 0]

As long as theres an option to turn it off.. Then I voted Yes.

Bext off both world then

[NeMeSiS 11]

Bad poll, there is an argument in one of the options to choose.

[churnedfortaste 0]

Ok then disregard where it says it would be 'too realistic', Just think of it as a simple 'no' option

[amrax 0]

OMG you “whore†hijacked my topic.

Quote[/b] ]Making the wind affect bullets should by all means be perfectly possible.

YEP!

You all want your M4 sights to work perfect don't you? Well, we as snipers want our weapon and scope to work perfect TOO!

But than of course why did they add snipers to the game in the first place? So we as snipers can use our weapon to shoot people just like you do, of course we do it better! :P

So don't BS about “too realistic BLAH BLAH BLAHâ€!

[JdB 151]

I chose "Yes", but would like to add that it is only "yes" if it can be changed in the settings in SP.

[andersson 285]

Elevation made me vote yes. I miss that. I would like wind, but its not that important.

[NoRailgunner 0]

Quote[/b] ]You all want your M4 sights to work perfect don't you?

search a little bit in forum and you will get something like you want:

authentic sound & weapon mod

Quote[/b] ]Well, we as snipers want our weapon and scope...

Oh my dear, why this guys are so sniffy? Go and make something for real in ArmA... dont blame BIS or addon/mission developers for you own dissatisfaction.

If you cant make proper mod/addon/missions feel free to offer a good suggestion! Otherwise is kiddin like "i wanna be a shooterhero - give me adjustable scopes on all weapons".

btw. in RL sniper doesnt work alone.

[amrax 0]

OMG, you are so so sad with your undeveloped brain.

Quote[/b] ]Go and make something for real in ArmA... dont blame BIS or addon/mission developers for you own dissatisfaction.

It is their job to do it right! And it is their fault not only me but others too are dissatisfied.

Quote[/b] ]If you cant make proper mod/addon/missions feel free to offer a good suggestion!

I did, you twit!

Quote[/b] ]"i wanna be a shooterhero - give me adjustable scopes on all weapons".

You missed the whole point, go back to grade school.

Quote[/b] ]btw. in RL sniper doesnt work alone.

Did I say a sniper does? Did you get that info from a movie you watched?

You really don't know much, do you!

Did you even fire more than 5 rounds or fire the sniper AT ALL, kid?