oneoff 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Quote[/b] ]The lack of a US Publisher means that this game isn't going to come out for *at least* 6 months in the US woohooo no friendly fire for at least 6 months, best news i heard about arma release since multiple gunners . sorry i am half joking but as in real life i always found the u.s players to be more trigeer happy in game. just my 2 euros. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PitViper 0 Posted November 6, 2006 I think that there is a big difference between what publishers think people in the USA want and what people really want. ...What you guys think? I think you may be right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikingo 0 Posted November 6, 2006 hola there!! just read this at http://armedassault.sk/ Quote[/b] ]StarForce Poslal retard | 06.11.2006 - 15:15 | Kategória: Armed Assault | Zdroj: - | Diskusia (8) Na oficiálnom BI fóre dnes spoock zaslal prÃspevok s oficiálnym potvrednÃm že v českej verzii Armed Assault bude ochrana StarForce. Túto informáciu potvrdil Jiri Jakubec z IDEA games. please translation... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackland 26 Posted November 6, 2006 hola there!!just read this at http://armedassault.sk/ Quote[/b] ]StarForce Poslal retard | 06.11.2006 - 15:15 | Kategória: Armed Assault | Zdroj: - | Diskusia (8) Na oficiálnom BI fóre dnes spoock zaslal prÃspevok s oficiálnym potvrednÃm že v českej verzii Armed Assault bude ochrana StarForce. Túto informáciu potvrdil Jiri Jakubec z IDEA games. please translation... easy: in the official forum by no. 269 it is "spoock" postet that StarForce nevertheless is contained in ArmA - this information is from IDEA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted November 6, 2006 At least 30% of the players are in North America. Â The rest are distributed accross Europe. The sales numbers actually indicate that the US market is just about 12% (okay, as you referenced to North America maybe 13% if we add the Canadians, though they might play Moose Hunter instead ) of the total number of copies sold: ~230,000 in USA vs. Total >2,000,000 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth3 0 Posted November 6, 2006 I doubt many people in North America will buy the game if it gets delayed here for 6 months. And I doubt they will ever buy another bis game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VerySolidSnake 0 Posted November 6, 2006 I doubt many people in North America will buy the game if it gets delayed here for 6 months. And I doubt they will ever buy another bis game. I'm here in the US, and would much rather download the game right away then wait 6 months for a copy from the store. It'd do alright in the US from word of mouth then in 6 months when it actually reaches stores, it will already have a pretty firm userbase. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikingo 0 Posted November 6, 2006 thanks Blackland for the translation quite sad to know that Starforce will be used many troubles with many games.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leckig 0 Posted November 6, 2006 thanks Blackland for the translation  quite sad to know that Starforce will be used  many troubles with many games.... and the problems are only for the legit users. a crack will be for download in 3 hours. I think someone mentioned this here or maybe on dl.tv that Starforce is mainly agains "casual copiers" - for people sharing games with friends. Nothing stops hard core pirates... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anders^on 0 Posted November 6, 2006 hola there!!just read this at http://armedassault.sk/ Quote[/b] ]StarForce Poslal retard | 06.11.2006 - 15:15 | Kategória: Armed Assault | Zdroj: - | Diskusia (8) Na oficiálnom BI fóre dnes spoock zaslal prÃspevok s oficiálnym potvrednÃm že v českej verzii Armed Assault bude ochrana StarForce. Túto informáciu potvrdil Jiri Jakubec z IDEA games. please translation... easy: in the official forum by no. 269 it is "spoock" postet that StarForce nevertheless is contained in ArmA - this information is from IDEA. Morphicon emphasized that they wouldn't use Starfoce, ever. They said so in a number of interviews. Perhaps Akella or LEM use it, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBee 0 Posted November 6, 2006 And I doubt they will ever buy another bis game. You are assuming that the majority of people actually pay attention to who games are created by ... they don't. Most potential US players won't know about the game until it's released and even if they are aware that it's late I highly doubt they will choose not to buy it for that reason. Here in the UK we frequently get US films and TV series 6, even 12 months after their US release - you don't get mass boycotts of films and TV because of that. If you think about it, the idea is pretty absurd - if the game is good who actually cares that the rest of the world played it before you? I know the US OFP fans are frustrated, but nonsensical predictions and scare mongering are not going to make a US publisher suddenly decide to sign the game - nor will you get it much faster even if they do. Instead of wasting your energy attacking BIS here why don't you start a petition of all the US games publishers - show them that demand exists and help BIS (and yourselves). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth3 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Lets face it, most of the people that will buy Arma are OFP fans. There's yet to be a game or a movie that gets released with a 3 months + delay from Europe to North America. If Bis does this with Arma, it will piss off every ofp player in North America. And they will just move on to something else and forget about it. Sure some games have delays, but they are maximum a month. And most people care about who publishes and makes the game. If thats the scenario, which I hope it isn't, then Amra will be pirated big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBee 0 Posted November 6, 2006 thanks Blackland for the translation quite sad to know that Starforce will be used many troubles with many games.... I'm guessing that this is just a case of Chinese whispers. Idea used starforce in the press demos but said that copy protection for the final games was down to the publishers to announce. (Idea historically refuse to comment on what decisions have been made by the publisher, they prefer you ask the publisher directly). Idea were probably confirming to Spoock that starforce was used in the press demos - someone mis-read or mis-understood what was said by Spoock here on the forums and a couple of translations later everyone thinks the final release uses Starforce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneoff 0 Posted November 6, 2006 well i asked in the czech thread and they said. Quote[/b] ]Quote (oneoff @ Nov. 06 2006,22:18)sorry for english. there is a debate about spooks starforce post, is it confirmed by idea that starfarce will be used in czech arma ? Yes. It seems to be official. Very sad, but what we can do? Boycott ArmA? Hmm... wait for UK release and order online? i just hope to fecking god 505 games dont go down that road or its ofp until game2 for moi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chipper 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Wow it's starforce get the fuck over it. I'm happy aslong as I know I'll be able to purchase and play ArmA I don't care what copy protection there is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneoff 0 Posted November 6, 2006 these are forums if you will buy it with starforce , good for you , just put that . no need for the "Wow it's starforce get the f... over it". i have not said what you should do, so pls post your view and dont direct others how they should feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jammydodger 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Watch your language guys, Placebo wont be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBee 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Wow it's starforce get the fuck over it. I'm happy aslong as I know I'll be able to purchase and play ArmA I don't care what copy protection there is. If Starforce was just a simple form of copy protection then few people would really mind, but it's a nasty piece of software which is actually responsible for destroying the CDRom drives of users (no urban legend) it also makes machines extremely unstable. The mechanism used by Starforce (device driver level integration) is also controversial - if you don't immediately dislike the concept then it would be pretty hard to explain why that is objectionable, just trust that it's a "bad thing". CD copy protection, whilst not exactly welcome, is ok by me. Starforce is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dudester 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Lets face it, most of the people that will buy Arma are OFP fans. Â There's yet to be a game or a movie that gets released with a 3 months + delay from Europe to North America. Â If Bis does this with Arma, it will piss off every ofp player in North America. Â And they will just move on to something else and forget about it If thats the scenario, which I hope it isn't, then Amra will be pirated big time. Can you tell me what game they will move onto in that time?? Its just i dont see what other game is around like this, at this time. If there is a game ill move onto it myself, so what is the game your thinking of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth3 0 Posted November 7, 2006 Are you implying that their life revolves around a game, and they must have it? Look at oblivion. They delayed the game so much, it lost the majority of its fan base. You think that won't happen with arma? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scillion 0 Posted November 7, 2006 I'm in North America and I'll wait. I don't have much of a problem with it. There isn't anything else to switch too anyway. NOT ONE SINGLE game is coming soon that appeals to me like AA. It's kinda like money - doesn't matter when I get it, I'll spend it. I just bought Space Empires V. The last patch broke it. In a few days they're releaseing a fix patch. NP here. (I wait well but I still come here to find out when it's coming) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth3 0 Posted November 7, 2006 Well you have time. I wont wait, and Im sure others won't as well. Ill just lose interest in ofp and arma and game2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigsa 0 Posted November 7, 2006 Are you implying that their life revolves around a game, and they must have it? Â Look at oblivion. Â They delayed the game so much, it lost the majority of its fan base. Â You think that won't happen with arma? Agreed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBee 0 Posted November 7, 2006 I'll say again, why are you complaining here? It won't change a thing. I'm not sure if our US cousins are familiar with the saying "There's no use crying over spilt milk"? If you stopped posting here and instead tried emailing a few publishers, now that might actually change the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smellyjelly 0 Posted November 7, 2006 To be honest, I couldn't really care who the US publisher is. As long as they release Armed Assault within a resonable date, and can meet demand, then it's fine. However, EA sucks, and I hope it's not them. If it is, we can expect a few expansion packs or rushed patches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites