king homer 1 Posted March 26, 2006 What about RHS T80's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputnik monroe 102 Posted March 26, 2006 I'm still waiting for the patch on the T80s before I download them. Once that's done they'll be perfect, though it would still be nice to also have T72s as a choice for an opposing force. The great thing about Sigma's T72 pack is it also contains a T90. Mainly though, Flashpoint contained a T55, T72 and a T80, so it would be nice to have T72s to fight with the SEP. The world feels empty with out T72s, it's like resistance with out kalashnikovs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wass 1 Posted March 26, 2006 @ Mar. 25 2006,16:43)]Hm... My pbo protection method uses in addon. Where's mentioning about copyrights? Hey, man! These people give  a fuck about copyrights So, relax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fingolfin 1972 Posted March 26, 2006 Though I don't support ORCS on this one, I think it's a clear sign your tank is just way overpowered And ORCS Tanks aren't overpowered?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted March 26, 2006 ssssh... we're not alot to talk about ORCS here... otherwise the truth may just come out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowY 0 Posted March 26, 2006 ssssh... we're not alot to talk about ORCS here... otherwise the truth may just come out  and if not the 'truth', maybe some more nice vehicles and armour for the addon addicted community Because that is what the endusers like to see Oh and some more diversity for different arena`s ..especialy Middle Eastern Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nominesine 0 Posted March 27, 2006 I played around with this steel beast during the weekend, and I am... amazed It's a fantastic experience to drive one of these monsters over the Tonali desert. The sound of the engine, the flash from the main gun, the loader shouting. Hell, I could almost smell the exhaust fumes. But I must confess I'm a little suprised that so much of the discussion here concerns theories about how strong a real m1a2 is. To me it's like discussing wether Batman could beat Dracula, or if Supermman is stronger than the Hulk. I haven't done much battle testing yet. Therefore I don't have an opinion wether this tank is overpowered or not. However, problems like these exists with virtually all OFP-units. As a mission maker I believe the challenge is to find a use for the tank, overpowered or not. Hence the problem shouldn't be "The tank is too strong" in my opinion, rather "what can we put up against it, to create an interesting mission." I see numerous ways this tank can be used, even if it does produce some lag on weak PC's, and even if it is indeed overpowered. Let me give you an example of one mission idea where this tank would be just great: * A US tank crew gets separated from the main force during the night. When morning comes, they are alone (with their huge tank), in hostile territory. Now they have to take the steel beast back to safety. * The m1a2 can actually be a weakness in this kind of mission. It becomes a fragile piece of equipment that need protection, instead of being an invulnerable machine of mass destruction. The crew will have to scout the area on foot, before the tank can enter bridges/open areas/valleys. * The tank is easily spotted by enemy. For the troops it would be more benficial to sneak baclk to safety on foot. * By placing strong enemy forces with AT capacity, backed up by armor and minefields, the only way to succed will be to play hide-and-seek. Now, try that with an Abrahams Since the crew consists of four people, it makes for a good MP Coop mission, as well as a SP mission. It's a single tank, so there will not be any lag from the m1a2. I'm already working on this idea myself, but I'm rather slow and the idea is free for anyone who wants it (even the ORCS-people can use it). Seeing the m1a2 put to good use in a MP or SP mission is, in my opinion, the most constructive way of critisizing and showing gratitude to the addon maker at the same time. Sorry for the long, and possibly off-topic, post. But I was really inspired by this addon. My hat goes off to Inquisitor, Fischkopp, T_D and King Homer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted March 27, 2006 ssssh... we're not alot to talk about ORCS here... otherwise the truth may just come out  and if not the 'truth', maybe some more nice vehicles and armour for the addon addicted community Because that is what the endusers like to see Oh and some more diversity for different arena`s ..especialy Middle Eastern Gotta love that... I guess youre one of these who would buy anything not asking where its from, "hey here a brandnew mobile only 30$...fell froma  delivery truck... " But we had that before, this i dont care where its from if i just get my hands on it. Theres a FAQ pinned in the forums that may enlighten people on issues like who owns a addon and decides who he allows to work on it and who not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wass 1 Posted March 27, 2006 Shadow NX What is the problem? It was request from russian community to ORCS. To fix non-balansed bugs, remove CBT crew. Where is link on fixed version here? This link was NOT posting here! It's exclusive version to russians, converted by request from russians. ORCS did't insert their copyrights in addon. And i would say: Thank you very much, ORCS, for fixed version! And, thank you, authors of addon, for great work! Its a best abrams at this moment! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted March 27, 2006 Yes thats easy, they requested and he delievered... jeez Only he forgot to ask the Makers and by that the OWNERS of the addon and from talking to King Homer i can tell you he was very mad about this. That btw is one of the reasons why many talented addonmakers left or now work under contracts for vbs... Why not do it as ORCS always said, if you dont like it dont download it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted March 27, 2006 the point being i dont think they asked permission to release a 'patch' for homers addon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted March 27, 2006 Shadow NX What is the problem? It was request from russian community to ORCS. To fix non-balansed bugs, remove CBT crew. Where is link on fixed version here? This link was NOT posting here! It's exclusive version to russians, converted by request from russians. ORCS did't insert their copyrights in addon. And i would say: Thank you very much, ORCS, for fixed version! And, thank you, authors of addon, for great work! Its a best abrams at this moment! Maybe we should release a patch for ORCS tanks as they are totally unbalanced. Of course since it's only for the English-speaking community we don't have to ask permission for it. How would ORCS feel about that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted March 27, 2006 Ironsight, who cares, as they wouldnt be able to discuss it on these forums as we'd ask the mods to lock all topics relating to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king homer 1 Posted March 27, 2006 Well, I don't care anymore. The Update will include the older and less powerfull ammunition and everything is fine again. I don't want to start a flamewar on ORCS here, this was already too often the case. Thanks for your support guys but now let's get back to the addon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wass 1 Posted March 27, 2006 Maybe we should release a patch for ORCS tanks as they are totally unbalanced. Of course since it's only for the English-speaking community we don't have to ask permission for it. How would ORCS feel about that You have request for it from English speaking community? Â Where? You have a request from more 50% english endusers? Only from visitors this forum? I don't think so. Anyone(who post messages in topic) in our forum ask for it. We ask - he make. For us, for endusers And i say again - link was NOT posting here. So... Btw, where is BIS config version this abrams in editor? ORCS Â have it for their tanks. Where is Voyager copyrights to protection method? Questions without answers... Quote[/b] ]Well, I don't care anymore. The Update will include the older and less powerfull ammunition and everything is fine again. I don't want to start a flamewar on ORCS here, this was already too often the case. Thanks for your support guys but now let's get back to the addon. Gold words Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denorc-ORCS- 0 Posted March 27, 2006 There's no "ORCS" version of this addon. ORCS actually aren't mixed in this in any way, I don't understand, why you mention my team there. There's no one word about ORCS in archive, that's uploaded on Flashpoint.ru. I don't see any harm for author. Btw, there's very normal ammo stats, as King Homer said. And pretty balanced. Main problem is still in armor. Armorstructural and armor values for separate tanks parts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 28 Posted March 27, 2006 Simple fact is that whoever edited this addon and then released that edit (directly or indirectly) without permission is completely in the wrong and any resulting "heat" from that action was brought on themselves. However airing dirty laundry in public forum threads is completely the wrong way to do it, best advice is to speak to each other like adults and resolve the matter in private. Now everyone please get back to discussing the addon, any peripheral subjects will be dealt with by posting restrictions if necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ag_smith 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Edit: nevermind after Placebo's post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wass 1 Posted March 27, 2006 King Homer Do you plan fix error drop-message? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted March 27, 2006 He posted before that he will fix it if he can find a way to make the script activate faster as far as i remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blake_ 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Addons aren`t such important things,that people can`t do ANYTHING without permission of the author...It was made just for our small community...Some spyies saw that and began an argue >>>FFS,guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king homer 1 Posted March 27, 2006 As said before: Old M829A2 shell from 1994 is implented and will replace the M829A3 terminator shell. Now it takes at least 2 shots to kill a tank, so the Abrams is now partially balanced with the RHS T80UM. It's still possible to add the newer ammo type via init line or script. The drop error message is fixed now and won't appear anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blake_ 0 Posted March 27, 2006 Thx a lot Where can be downloaded this updated version? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king homer 1 Posted March 27, 2006 It's not released yet, we're still working on it. But it'll be done soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
