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On 2/2/2020 at 3:03 AM, oxmox said:

 

Used to see similar things in Germany but not in the UK....

 

News Report

 

Currently (as in the last couple of years) the left wing propaganda machine is on full speed  be it in media, some corporations or tech giants. You have to be a bit Ray Charles or left wing not to see this crap although Google being very lefty doesn't help either when most get their news from their search results.

These mini Goebbels with their copy/paste parroting (surprisingly no diversity in their speeches or texts🤣) think they have the upper hand everywhere besides their echo chambers, we shall see if its true in the next 2-5 years.

That article reminds me of this ad:

 

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On 2/19/2020 at 5:11 PM, krycek said:

 

Currently (as in the last couple of years) the left wing propaganda machine is on full speed  be it in media, some corporations or tech giants. You have to be a bit Ray Charles or left wing not to see this crap although Google being very lefty doesn't help either when most get their news from their search results.

These mini Goebbels with their copy/paste parroting (surprisingly no diversity in their speeches or texts🤣) think they have the upper hand everywhere besides their echo chambers, we shall see if its true in the next 2-5 years.

That article reminds me of this ad:

 

 

When I was a student and in the time before, I was travelling a lot as a backpacker to many countries  on different continents around the world  for months. Our world is just beautiful. There was one thing what I did learn, that culture is unique and diverse around our planet, people are brothers n sisters at heart. Besides that you actually value, discover and tolerate the diversity in our world you learn a lot about yourself,  you get a view from outside about your origin and recognize that also your own culture and society is unique, you notice that Europe is a pearl of a continent with the most density of culturual diversity in the world.

 

To tell any european citizen of any country or region that those would not have their own culture is not just historical wrong its an effrontery, and if the wheel was invented in Mesopotamia and brought to here it doesnt mean they did invent a motor vehicle. 

 

Those who are responsible with the release of such content shouldnt be suprised about if they are actually creating here and there nationalism, trying to spread some form of tolerance for foreigness but actually create content which is directed against the own identity of regions or countries of the viewer. 

 

 

 

 

Google search is really bad compared to ten years ago, when you actually could find content from all directions, also from small blogs or websites. Nowadays you even get sometimes bad search results when you put it in quotion mark.... sucks and feels like a cleaned up Internet.

 

 Duckduckgo.com, Yandex.com, yippy.com or dogpile.com....just some examples which are a good alternative for google search.

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12 hours ago, oxmox said:

To tell any european citizen of any country or region that those would not have their own culture is not just historical wrong its an effrontery, and if the wheel was invented in Mesopotamia and brought to here it doesnt mean they did invent a motor vehicle. 

 

Indeed. And the culture is about something else, than just some random inventions. It seems weird to me that they're talking so much about diversity and then it appears, they are in fact after some kind of indistinguishable uniformity? Perhaps a paradox of ideology, that sees differences as a source of conflicts, therefore tries to level and eradicate diversity of the world by lying to the people, they are all the same, not different from others. In the result depriving the humanity of what makes it so beautiful. A peace by making people blind to differences between them. Thing is, it's an artificial mental construct that is futile (hopefully, for the sake of us all) and objectively - a false. Every nation has responsibility to respect, cherish, preserve and enrich own uniqueness, take care, of what is good, purify from what is wrong, not only for themselves, but as a gift for all other nations, to keep world as a multi-faceted jewel for all. Which doesn't mean closing in stagnation, a nation is formed in dynamic process and its own, internal dynamism is part of its culture making it alive, developing. Also nothing wrong in interacting between them, each does that naturally. In its own, unique way, not melting into some kind of impoverished, homogeneous pulp. A gift should be given nevertheless. 

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1 hour ago, Rydygier said:

ideology, that sees differences as a source of conflicts, therefore tries to level and eradicate diversity of the world

Probably the simplest explanation of the reasons behind European integration I've ever seen. Now, it may be not the perfect explanation (I'd wager that economical reasons for integration were as much important as political ones, if not more), but it perfectly captures the state of mind of many early integration advocates.

 

For what it's worth: as a pacifist at heart, I'm all for worldwide cooperation against the war. But it's evident that integration as seen in Europe - based on first creating common economic sphere, and then trying to find common ideology - quickly turns into a new kind of liberal fascism, where everyone who doesn't want to fit in the ideological mold (created by elites detached from the masses) falls a victim of legal economic terror.

 

With traditional (economy-focused) left being dead in 21st century, and right moving further into liberal ideology, the only political group who stands against this new world order are radical nationalists. Once a fringe/marginal group, but today going into mainstream thanks to votes of millions who are dissatisfied with Europe ran by few elites. It's almost like 1930s Europe again, but this time people are voting for nationalists to fight the totalitarian state, not to establish it.

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We are living in crazy times currently.......

 

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Coronavirus: Italian PM extends lockdown to entire country

 

Under the new decree, people will only be able to travel between cities for emergency reasons and can face fines and up to three months in jail for breaking quarantine rules.

 

The country is struggling to contain Europe’s worst outbreak of Covid-19, which has claimed 463 lives and

infected 9,172 people – and late on Monday announced its most drastic measures so far to deal with the crisis.

 

“The figures show we are experiencing a serious increase in infections, an increase in people hospitalized in intensive care – and an increase, unfortunately, in deaths. We need to change our lifestyle. We need to change it now. That’s why I have decided to adopt these hard measures,” said Conte.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/09/coronavirus-italy-prime-minister-country-lockdown

 

 

 

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UK - TV 

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Giacomo Grasselli - a senior Italian government health official who is coordinating the network of intensive care units in Lombardy - explains the “critical” situation in Italy, brought about by the Covid-19 outbreak

 

 

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A virus is essentially a biochemical carrier with malicious code sticking into the cells... It may sound SF-ish, but I wonder, how far we are from actually coding a genome like programist does. Some programist with medicine/virology background could actually to write genetic antivirus. 

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5 hours ago, Rydygier said:

It may sound SF-ish, but I wonder, how far we are from actually coding a genome like programist does.

As far as I know it's all about the moral barriers rather than scientific or technical ones. Just like with the human cloning. Coding a genome is some kind of eugenics, not a welcomed thing nowdays.

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People should remember that the retards/braindead morons in charge in most european countries told everyone at the end of January not to worry and they wouldn't even consider reducing flights or the "right to travel everywhere". Make no mistake, this isn't about spreading panic but sheer incompetence, downplaying everything together with most media even when China put Wuhan in quarantine. Hell, in my country two or three weeks ago I had to search for news regarding this virus because no one thought it deserves attention anymore on their first page.

 

I'm not worried about Covid-19 although I regret that people lost their lives due to these incompetent fools not to mention the economic problems this will bring, what I do worry though is that it will come (not if) a time when we'll have to deal with something a lot more deadlier than this and it will be the same then. Also the irony that most corporations to save a penny they moved all their production in China decades ago, gee I wonder how those saved pennies work for them now.

Can anyone guess how her tune was a month ago:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51835856

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Getting more tight for people living in Italy.....

 

Italy's government orders all shops, bars and restaurants to close

 

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Italy’s government has ordered all shops, bars and restaurants across the country to close as the country’s death toll from the coronavirus outbreak rose by 31% in the space of 24 hours to a total of 827.

 

As governments across Europe cancelled events, shut schools and imposed travel bans and the World Health Organization formally declared a pandemic, the Italian prime minister, Giuseppe Conte, said all stores would close nationwide bar those selling “basic necessities”, such as pharmacies and supermarkets.

 

 

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Lombardy - epicenter of the COVID-19 outbreak

 

First-hand coronavirus report from Italian health workers

describing the disturbing situation on the ground 

 

 

 

(Audio with english subs)

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Some important points to consider, such as recent history.

Medical Martial Law - https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-086-medical-martial-law/

 

Is Coronavirus the Next 9/11? - https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1523-is-coronavirus-the-next-9-11-discussion-on-the-ochelli-effect/

 

 

Basic hygiene practices never hurt though, regardless of if there something going on or not. You know, always properly wash your hands with soap. Use a glove or a plastic bag when shopping for food. Don't cough all over that food. Don't squeeze every piece of fruit, you have eyes. Wash fruits and vegetables with vinegar. Take care of what you put in your mouth. That sort of thing, rather then showering every day, five times a day for every drop of sweat you produce.

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Austria bans all gatherings of more than five people

Chancellor Sebastian Kurz said on Sunday that there should be only three reasons for people to leave home: essential work, essential purchases such as food, and helping other people.

People will be able to go out “only alone or with the people with whom [they] live in their apartment”.

The Independent

 

France

French cases doubled over the last 72 hours to about 4,500. There have been 91 deaths,

and 300 coronavirus patients are in critical condition — half of them under 50 years of age.

New York Times

 

 

Netherlands

40 to 50 Dutch corona patients in intensive care units: "More than half are under fifty"

“More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. It also includes young people. "That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site.

Algemeen Dagblad

 

 

Interesting Graphic shows the capability of health systems by nations to deal

with an influx of patients requiring intensive care (ICU Beds)

ICU-beds-by-country-4-1644x2048.png

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some words on european "unity" "union" - there are 2 news - Italian and Czech - that Germany confiscated medical equipment which was transported by big ships from China to those countries (Italy and Czech Republic) and which was unloaded in Hammburg port, according from different news (italian, czech) anti-virus masks and other equipment was confiscated by Germany "because of new antiepidemic law" - which means that Italian and Czech hospitals had their naval transport confiscated by Merkel's government (already making problems to rest of Europeans )

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The German government has therefore restricted the export of breathing masks and other protective equipment. Initially, at the beginning of March, Germany had issued an export ban with a few exceptions in order to secure protective clothing for German requirements.

 

This had met with fierce criticism in the EU. Now the following applies: the export of items such as protective goggles, respirators, protective suits or gloves is possible with the approval of the Federal Office of Economics and Export Control.

 

and before that: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-ventilator/germany-discussing-its-medical-export-restrictions-with-eu-partners-idUSKBN2101IU

 

Plus today is an EU summit to coordinate that.

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Corona carries off the old. That is only fair 

 

A satire piece for German state television (web youth channel) celebrates the spread of coronavirus because it is killing people in developed nations who are responsible for climate change. 

“It carries off the old, but the young people survive this infection almost effortlessly.That’s simply justice, because for the last 50 years the generation 65+ has driven the planet into a wall”

 

The piece also lauds the collapse of global air traffic and the reduction of air pollution in China, claiming this will lead to a “green paradise” and that there are “too many of us” anyway.

“So the coronavirus is probably just a beautiful and sensible reflex of nature that shows humans who is actually in charge,” states the presenter before adding, “Corona is here, because we don’t deserve better.”

 

 

(with english subs)

more about it:

Die Welt (google transl.)

 

 

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 Bergamo in Italy

 Army called in as funeral services cannot cope with coronavirus victims 

 

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An army spokesman said 15 trucks and 50 soldiers had been deployed to move corpses to nearby provinces. 

 

Medics and undertakers are overwhelmed due to COVID-19.

Northern Italy is seeing a dramatic increase in deaths, which the

crematorium is unable to deal with.

 

(Deutsche Welle)

 

 

 

'There are no funerals:' Death in quarantine leaves nowhere to grieve

Italy surpassed China as the country with the most people killed by the coronavirus on Thursday, after the Italian death toll surged to 3,405. (The Telegraph)

 

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“They buried him like that, without a funeral, without his loved ones, with just a blessing from the priest,” said his granddaughter Marta Manfredi who couldn’t attend. Like most of the old man’s family - like most of Italy - she was confined to her home.

“When all this is over,” she vows, “we will give him a real funeral.”

 

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-rites-insight/there-are-no-funerals-death-in-quarantine-leaves-nowhere-to-grieve-idUSKBN2161ZM

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On 10/20/2015 at 5:41 PM, boss00521 said:

Ok, i got your point. First of - if you know the way how to create university that would provide a possibility to study on 130 languages  - be my guest)) ( i unerstand that 130 nationalities don't mean 130 languages but you got my point).All these nationalities live side by side with russian speaking people for hundreds of years and not knowing the language is absurd! Second - to get something you need to be russian? To get something in Russia ( well at least nowdays) you need education and will to work hard ( it works for me at least). And just for your reference check the nationality of Shoigu ( the minister of Defence of RF). And this is just a minor example. You may find more on google and among other representatives you will find chechens, tatars, jews and many many others. And by the way in my university students were able to study on russian, ukrainian and tatar languages))

 
defense Minister

 

What is the political situation in Ukraine now? I am planning to expand my business in this country. How to keep accounting here, get permits?

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European Activists and Refugee Rescue Boat Operations in the Mediterranean  [The Guardian]

 

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The 10 crew members of the Louise Michel have diverse backgrounds, but they all identify as anti-racist and anti-fascist activists advocating for radical political change. As it is a feminist project, only female crew members are allowed to speak in the name of the Louise Michel.

 

The crew, made up of European activists with long experience in search and rescue operations, had already assisted in two other rescue operations involving a total of 105 people, who are now onboard the NGO vessel Sea-Watch 4.

 

Painted in bright pink and featuring Banksy artwork depicting a girl in a life vest holding a heart-shaped safety buoy, the Louise Michel sails under a German flag. The vessel, named Louise Michel after a French feminist anarchist....

 

Pia Klemp, the former captain of several NGO boats that have rescued thousands of people over recent years.

 

Klemp, who initially thought it was a joke, believes she was chosen by Banksy due to her political stance.I don’t see sea rescue as a humanitarian action, but as part of an anti-fascist fight,” she told the Guardian.

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/27/banksy-funds-refugee-rescue-boat-operating-in-mediterranean

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