European Politics Thread.

[vilas 477]

btw guys, don't you think that basic LOGICAL thinking would be needed ?

leftists say "we shoul enrich our culture" okay

lets look at other cultures :

roma/gypsies - they can sell small girl to be wife in future, they are doing it,

islam - no rights for women

Judaism - talmud and rabins say that non-Jews are animals

 

so lets enrich our culture by taking away women's rights ?

who is for ?

it is taking part of culture of roma and islam

 

i support , why not, but i do not agree on ban on wine and sausage, but i could buy 4 young women

 

stupid feminists in my country demonstrated yesterday to "enrich traditional Polish culture" , we can enrich it, by taking their voting right and choosing husband right (jokes in internet say "Poland is divided on immigrants issue, 95% against, 5% for")

probably European (also called "White man" culture that spreads to Australia, America, Russia) is only culture that allow female rights, if everyone from left wing says about enriching our bad-because-conservative culture lets fuckin do it,

maybe also add some things from culture of African tribes as well

 

roma/gypsy, judaism - both allow diversing people on "your" and "others" when it comes to property, why not we enrich our culture by this element too ? i am for equality - if they can, we should could too (be able to probably is grammatically correct)

 

if we check scientists about voting - more women vote for left wing than men, in my country at least, so when we enrich our culture, conservatives rule till the end of the world

 

------------

 

da12thMonkey - common EU army article - o my god, now i understand people who wanted create Novorussia in Eastern Ukraine , we wanted ECONOMICAL union, not fuckin NWO ruled away in Brussel by non-voted comisars, since now i do not call them terrorists but people who want to live free , i changed my mind on them, one government over world, one army steered from few bureaucrats against other nations - no way,

EU should be economical union and trade union of INDEPENDENT SOVEIRGN nations /states, i support borderless touristic and custom movement , i support people can choose when they live, but once they are choosen territory of X, they have to obey law which is on X territory and tradition , i support free movement but when someone moves to UK he must eat "pudding" when he moves to Poland he must eat "schabowy" , people should have right to choose where they want to live BUT when there is one government - you do not have place to RUN , because everywhere there is the same government - it is USSR, because if there is one government, one system, one army - you cannot choose different life (some may prefere conservative state, others left wing, so they should be able to move from one to another, but 1 NWO government with 1 army, 1 police - is total tyrany prescribed in Orwell's book Year 1984)

i hope this never gonna happen cause than Ukrainian scenario is most possible , shame that we would have to ask Putin for help than, EU should remain trade, custom, borderless for tourist union with common technical standards (IEC, EN:61000, 230V 50Hz etc) but never ever there should be situation when guy from Brussels who is German decided to use Army against people in Poland, Hungary (as Martin Shultz said)

1 costal guard - can be understood as long as it keeps any non-European away (but not entering what we know so far , that all "effort" of EU was to stop Orban from stopping )  but not 1 ground forces and later 1 police

 

i hope one day in few years we would have voting to quit EU, because EU is not EU we were told 11 years ago and 11 years ago anyone who said "there will be 1 government" was called "you are crazy" by EU promoting suporters

 

if things we read today would be shown in 2004, voting result maybe would be not 77 vs 23 percent, but 51 vs 49 % or maybe even  49% vs 51 %, one government, one army is unacceptable, because than you cannot choose where do you want to live (different lifestyle will not exist, different law will not exist)

 

if there is 1 law, 1 police, 1 army, 1 economy, 1 lifestyle, 1 culture  - where can you run if you do not like it ?

now when do not accept something, we pack clothes, we move and we can live in different place which suits us better

 

cause later someone will propose 1 company and when you in conflict with boss, you will never find another job, 1 shop, 1 media channel, 1 informations website !!! Orwell wrote a book about this

 

this EU becomes tyrrany - because the basic rule of freedom is right to choose ,

 

because one day in this politcall correcntess left wing shit someone may come and tell - you have to marry another man or you are arrested , you cannot eat smoked sausage because it was banned, you cannot eat "kwaszony" cucubmer because it was banned

[spooky lynx 73]

 

 

what tha hell, only result of it would be total racism , they really want to make people go extreme, which means they do all to start civil war in Europe (on west with imigrants, here on economical inequalities and poverty)

Europe will just get back to its usual state that was for centuries. Racism, slavery, overpopulation on small territory, constant wars for resources, markets and space. The peace and prosperity of post-WW2 years was rather exception from usual way of life in Europe.

 

 

islam - no rights for women

To be honest less rights for females in islam means less obligations and much more of them to males. For example it is exclusively male's obligation to find enough money for family. If his wife starts working to earn money (not for fun like my aunt) - everybody will treat him as poor loser.

[vilas 477]

 

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1897/this-giant-saudi-arabian-tent-camp-is-empty.html

 

http://www.infowars.com/saudi-arabia-has-100000-empty-air-conditioned-tents-that-can-house-3-million-people-yet-has-taken-zero-refugees/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/saudi-arabia-refuse-to-take-in-refugees-instead-offer-to-build-200-mosques-in-germany/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/refugee-crisis-saudi-arabia-has-100000-air-conditioned-tents-sitting-empty-that-can-house-3-million-people/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/video-muslim-migrant-locusts-brags-about-destruction-of-europe-and-they-will-pay-us-to-do-it/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/uk-muslim-teacher-asked-young-pupils-to-write-love-letters-to-isis-jihadis-in-syria/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/iraqi-on-danish-tv-we-want-sweden-because-in-denmark-welfare-is-cut-from-10000-to-5000-kr-a-month/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/uk-muslim-mob-launch-attack-on-three-non-muslims-in-sharia-zone-of-east-london/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/french-honorary-consul-in-turkey-local-turkish-authorities-was-selling-rubber-dinghies-to-migrants/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/france-pathetic-left-wingers-work-hard-to-cook-food-to-starving-refugees-to-find-their-food-thrown-away/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/aylan-kurdis-father-charged-money-smuggling-illegal-migrants-to-greece-woman-claims/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/12/sweden-paperless-muslim-arrested-for-double-rape/

 

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/canada-jihadi-terror-suspect-tries-to-convert-prisoners-beaten-inside-canadian-prison-video/

[vilas 477]

http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1041269,title,Utoniecie-Aylana-To-ojciec-wywrocil-lodz,wid,17842388,wiadomosc.html

 

investigation over drowned kid continues , it was his father that wrongly steered boat, his father was living in Turkey, had job there, but Turkish system was not allowing him to make his teeth free of charge, so he decided to swim to Europe (he was not escaping war, he was "escaping" from Turkey where he had to pay for dentist because dentist was not refunded in Turkey), in Poland i also pay for dentist myself

in time when media cry over 1 boy whose father wrongly steered boat , ISIS executed 19 Chrisitan girls for refusal of sex with ISIS members

[spooky lynx 73]

Greedy person pays twice.

[vilas 477]

 

Greedy person pays twice.

 

the problem is other, photo of 1 drowned kid made huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mess in western media and everyone shouting at Orban for buildng fence, wall, changing law, also Romania, Makedonia, Bulgaria - bordering with Greece, Kosovo, post-Yugo countries wanted to follow Orban, also Greek gov. wanted help their people

this 1 photo used by media made western europe shocked,

photos of Christians in chains hanged over fireplace were not shown, photos of small girls beheaded was not shown, relations of Polish tourists in Italy and Austria were not shown,

touristic bus with trip was assaulted by imigrants , Poles wrote that imigrants were throwing stones, extrements - now those Poles face jihad death threats on Facebook and Facebook deleted their accounts

 

people who wrote truth about imigrants have erased FB account - like "evaporisation" in Orwells book

 

 wish that our press and western press was showing that beheaded girls, that Christians who are in chains, handcufs and burn over fire under them, on some "phobic" websites those photos are on first page, so i will not link due to gore rules

but people are chained, chain is between 2 trees, people hang for legs and arms, fire is under them - such photos should be shown 24/7 in every goddamn TV chanel  and offer from Saudi Arabia "we will finance 200 mosques in your country" and 3 milions people-capacity tents with air condition that stand empty

[spooky lynx 73]

 

 

this 1 photo used by media made western europe shocked,

Just like it was shocked when media cried about Kuwaiti infants killed by Iraqi soldiers, than WMD of Hussein ready to be used, than 'innocent peaceful protesters' shot by regime troops in Libya and Syria, BS about Serbs' crimes in Kosovo, Malaysian Air Boeing shot down by separatists in Donbass etc. Usual way of manipulating of public opinion.

[spooky lynx 73]

Guys, who does find this acceptable in human society?

[St. Jimmy 272]

Guys, who does find this acceptable in human society?

Politicans and warmongers who want to share their McFreedom Meal everywhere. They probably deny that but that's what they create.

 

Europe or America welcomes people with free hand and good deals. Some of them only get so close...

[spooky lynx 73]

I wonder, those who cried "Je suis Charlie", what will they say now? Do they still support such... ehm... freedom?

[ProfTournesol 956]

I wonder, those who cried "Je suis Charlie", what will they say now? Do they still support such... ehm... freedom?

 

Freedom of speech ? Freedom of blasphemy ? Of course, more than ever.

[spooky lynx 73]

So mockery on real dead boy (not on some religion character that is believed to exist) is freedom of speech?

[ProfTournesol 956]

So mockery on real dead boy (not on some religion character that is believed to exist) is freedom of speech?

 

Yes. Freedom is freedom, justice will tell if someone ever suits them. That's the rule of law.

[spooky lynx 73]

I would like to believe that it is only your opinion but not prevailing point of view among European society.

[St. Jimmy 272]

So mockery on real dead boy (not on some religion character that is believed to exist) is freedom of speech?

Media made it a figure and face of refugee struggle, so that's why it's used. It doesn't mock the boy directly unless you want to get offended or read it like that... Sometimes truth hurts a lot and some people refuse to acknowledge that people (even kids) die everyday.

[spooky lynx 73]

Excuse me but this drawing is based on one famous photo that shows not abstract symbol but the real kid. So for me it was clear mockery of kid's death. And for me it is beyond human sanity.

[vilas 477]

interview with another Syrian businesman who says they just want use benefits, said by native Syrian

http://m.niezalezna.pl/70926-arabski-restaurator-w-polsce-co-wniosa-imigranci-koran-pod-pacha

[St. Jimmy 272]

Excuse me but this drawing is based on one famous photo that shows not abstract symbol but the real kid. So for me it was clear mockery of kid's death. And for me it is beyond human sanity.

http://www.thedailyvox.co.za/were-all-reading-charlie-hebdo-wrong/

 

The kid was used by the media to get the emotional reaction. Now he's just a symbol because of that. It's not attack against the kid himself personally unless you want to read it like that or are unable to see what the picture might tell you.

 

Btw just to mention that upper yellow part isn't actually part of the original drawing but that fact doesn't change the picture too much.

 

Also http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-12/media-propaganda-full-frontal-father-drowned-syrian-boy-was-people-smuggler

[vilas 477]

i dont know if you translated articles i linked but native Syrian says and Hungarian police prove lots of immigrants are not from Syria, our media feed us with lies, that they escaping war in Syria cause police found lots of documents from other countriers, also Syrian guy said they call to ask him how to get benefits,and guy said that only thing they bring is qoran , he is restaurants owner and none of them asked for job, but legal tricks how to not work

[vilas 477]

http://wpolityce.pl/m/polityka/265547-ostre-starcia-na-granicy-miedzy-wegrami-a-serbia-policja-uzyla-gazu-lzawiacego-imigranci-szturmuja-ogrodzenie

invaders tried broke borderline

[bardosy 158]

Immigrants attacked our border and they spayed pepper to our police officers. They dropped rocks and flame objects into Hungarian police.

Before the attack violent immigrants drop 3 children over the barbed wire fence and let them there in the foot of riot police. I was shocked. I'm a parent. What kind of parent drop their childer over a barbed wire fence into the riot police??? Oh, wait... These immigrants are not the parents. These immigrants drop other people's children. And the liberals want these animals let in the EU??? Probably liberals has no kids. But I will not let these brutal bastard to touch my kid!!! Fuck you stupid liberals! And respect to every police officers who defend our border from these invaders.

 

The UN secretary told he was shocked and Hungary have to let these brutal jihadist into our country. No, mr secretary, I was shocked. And you, go to hell!

 

The Austrian cancellor told a few days ago, Hungary made a new holocaust, because Hungarian authorities put immigrants to train and didn't tell them to these trains will not bring their to Germany, but refugee camps in Hungary. And today Austrian authorities do the VERY SAME. But of course herr Freymann didn't feel shame and didn't apologie from Hungarians.

[exe_74rus 1]

Europe badly wrong when the United States allowed to break the Middle East and North Africa.

This is the same mistake as your support Maidan in Kiev.

For all have to pay.

Now Europe is only beginning to show the account for payment. Next will be more fun. It is possible to agree with the Russian. Arabs fail.

 

You have to make Europe the police, or you will break inside.

 

Want to live like before? Eliminate the cause of refugees. Help destroy the Assad LIH. Find a second-Gaddafi and help him take power in Libya.

The most important thing. Disable Americans wreak havoc on your border. They should be enough of their problems. You can not ban does not help. Otherwise, you look silly. Solving the "ally" to break your house.

[fn_Quiksilver 1636]

But I will not let these brutal bastard to touch my kid!!!

 

Yes, you will. 

 

Its been arranged :)

 

Been decided that Hungary is due for some cultural enrichment from the East!

[vilas 477]

among arested in Hungary there were ISIS terroristk

[batto 17]

I would like to believe that it is only your opinion but not prevailing point of view among European society.

 

I can confirm it's prevailing point of view here in the center of EU. Freedom of speech should be absolute until nobody is harmed. Your little feelings or prophet don't count. What you regard as acceptable may be regarded unacceptable by other person. Go watch some Richard Dawkins to get the point. I enjoy and value controversial satire and black comedy. It's good eye opener sometimes.

 

This is exactly what I expected:

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=cs&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnarodnidemokracie.cz%2Fakcni-plan-pro-reseni-migracni-krize-v-cr%2F&edit-text=&act=url&act=url

 

National "Democracy" hahaha... Hopefully, elections were shortly before migration crisis.