ag_smith 0 Posted April 23, 2005 I'm sorry to bring up this topic again, but I think somebody owes us an explanation what really happened to Lacerta project. I was very surprised when watching VBS1 Observer3 demo video, I've recognized some objects from Lacerta screens you guys showed sometime ago. It wasn't a nice surprise, let me tell you that. For example, just look at the pic below: You can find some more if you look carefully. So, what's up with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Not that I have any sort of official explanation but I dont think it takes a rocket scientist to know that a few of the mod teams are doing some sort of vbs work of some kind. It's the worst kept seceret. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miss_cleo 0 Posted April 23, 2005 arrgh... I think VBS is the bane of my existance. I wish people would be more up front about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Some members of CSLA team had leaved CSLA sometime ago I think they are hired by BIS\BIA to work for them thats why Lacerta project was stopped cause CSLA has not much active members now to work on 2 projects. But than again this is only my ques maybe Maa can tell us more about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geocider 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Don't forget that BIS can take any addons made in O2 and use it in VBS or whatever they'd like to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jotte 0 Posted April 23, 2005 I'm sorry to bring up this topic again, but I think somebody owes us an explanation what really happened to Lacerta project.I was very surprised when watching VBS1 Observer3 demo video, I've recognized some objects from Lacerta screens you guys showed sometime ago. It wasn't a nice surprise, let me tell you that. For example, just look at the pic below: http://img135.echo.cx/my.php?image=vbscs9mu.jpg http://img135.echo.cx/img135/6702/vbscs9mu.th.jpg You can find some more if you look carefully. So, what's up with that? Â They don't owe us anything. That is a very selfish attitude. And one very probeble reason that you won't get any comment IF they are hire or the models bought in is that they have signed a NDA. Being enviouse and whining like a sour loser about it is just bad style.We should instead be glad that some of the addon makers in the community acctually get to do what they loved to do for free and now get paid for it. It will hopefully also positivly effect the quality of future BIS products. It have happened in alot of other game communitys and I sure am glad to see that the developers pic up talents from their fan ranks in this community too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itseme 0 Posted April 23, 2005 At least its sad that lacerta was stoped, the screens looked cool and so on, but if they are working for BIS now they will work maybe on OFP2, and if they put their skills in it, its not that bad to have a better OFP2 with some very nice islands and buildings with campaigns and stuff from beginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomislav 0 Posted April 23, 2005 @Jotte: you are right on that statement, but you could say it in a nicer way. but it would be easier for them if they just say Lacerta has gone with the members working on it and can be seen in vbs1, then no one would ask about it, but as they don'T do so, and i only know them as a relyable mod that would have told us about such an development, so i'll keep on hoping for lacerta until they really say it is cancelled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgerot 33 Posted April 23, 2005 He just wanted an explanation to that, I would have found it strange too had I noticed that (but VBS is out of the question for me). Sorry for going off topic with that, but I do have to say I've been impressed with the more recent screens. Good job CSLA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MontyVCB 0 Posted April 23, 2005 they don't have to explain anything, its none of our buisness if they want to do stuff for vbs.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgerot 33 Posted April 23, 2005 Very well then, it is none of my business as it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ag_smith 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Hell yeah, why should I care? I just want somebody to tell us the truth and not the excuses, that made us believe Lacerta will be released some day. Am I expecting too much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Hell yeah, why should I care?I just want somebody to tell us the truth and not the excuses, that made us believe Lacerta will be released some day. Am I expecting too much? Maybe joint operation between CSLA and VBS1 Lacerta for VBS1 and OFP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr reality 0 Posted April 23, 2005 @ ag_smith The Observer 3 video was shot on an upcoming terrain pack 3 for VBS1 and stated by Seventh in the forum it's at a very early alpha stage. So maybe the developers liked Lacerta and The CSLA team couldn't refuse there offer. Personally i couldn't care what platform it comes out in as i'll still be getting it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ag_smith 0 Posted April 23, 2005 @ ag_smithThe Observer 3 video was shot on an upcoming terrain pack 3 for VBS1 and stated by Seventh in the forum it's at a very early alpha stage. So maybe the developers liked Lacerta and The CSLA team couldn't refuse there offer. Personally i couldn't care what platform it comes out in as i'll still be getting it . Could say the same thing, but I don't have VBS1 nor I can afford to buy one. So if it's coming out for VBS1 only, these means I (and majority of us) won't be able to play it. Lacerta was announced as the OFP project. If they said from the beginning, that it's gonna be VBS1-only, I wouldn't say a word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted April 23, 2005 I just hate VBS for all this rift it has created among us OFP'ers . First they release a slightly modified version of the same thing we have , soup up its models a bit over price it and then shroud it with a veil of secrecy (you cant even see their bloody forums ) , they can come here and post stuff/pics and brag about it , we cant go to their forums and visit their addons/pics thread or post anything. Then they have the exclusive right to take any OFP addon in as they wish , while we cant do that. The whole OFP community is now broken in to 2 parts one that plays VBS and is remains there and the other that stayed with OFP. All because of a difference of a price-tag and some modifications. Leaves me with a very sour taste in my mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr reality 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Sorry for continuing with the offtopic @Acecombat Just look at the VBS1'ers as Beta testers for OFP2 . And don't forget OFP addons are free to anyone. VBS1 addons are encrypted to individuals as VBS1 is used mainly by the military so parts of it are "Top Secret" . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acecombat 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Beta testers for OFP2 eh? OFP2 is not going to be anything like VBS1 , VBS1 is the same as OFP 1.96 or 1.85 as someone whos worked on it told me. If OFP2 is going to be like VBS1 thats going to be a major let down. Quote[/b] ]VBS1 addons are encrypted to individuals as VBS1 is used mainly by the military so parts of it are "Top Secret" Ohhh right as if someone will use addons and take over the world by training on a computer sim  . "Top secret" , what bs. VBS was supposed to be a training sim for army's and law enforcement agencies , why'd they release it for the public is beyond me. That itself undermines whatever your concept behind 'top secret' itself as anyone can buy this of the shelf and get whatever they want. EDIT: OFP addons are free to anyone who has OFP and not some other game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ironsight 1 Posted April 23, 2005 The whole OFP community is now broken in to 2 parts one that plays VBS and is remains there and the other that stayed with OFP. All because of a difference of a price-tag and some modifications. And this is exactly what is killing the OFP community. No offense to anyone that bought VBS or is working on VBS, but I think VBS is a coffin nail to the OFP community Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Quote[/b] ]VBS is a coffin nail to the OFP community utter bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotShot 0 Posted April 23, 2005 They're some keen eyes AgentSmith! It would be a shame if the island did only go to VBS1, but maybe (although i realise unlikely), Lacerta is still on for OFP, and they have simply used some of the objects from it in the new Terrain pack for a different island, and the Lacerta and its objects will still be released for OFP?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ag_smith 0 Posted April 23, 2005 They're some keen eyes AgentSmith! It would be a shame if the island did only go to VBS1, but maybe (although i realise unlikely), Lacerta is still on for OFP, and they have simply used some of the objects from it in the new Terrain pack for a different island, and the Lacerta and its objects will still be released for OFP?? I hope so and that's what I wanted to know when I decided to post it. Ironsight, Acecombat, couldn't agree more with you guys. utter bullshit.Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted April 23, 2005 utter bullshit.Huh? That can mean 2 things or he is calling VBS1 bullshit or he is calling you bullshit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted April 23, 2005 Quote[/b] ]If they said from the beginning, that it's gonna be VBS1-only, I wouldn't say a word Mod teams working on vbs addons arent allowed to say a word about it. There's a gag order on disclosing anything. This thread shouldnt keep going this way peepz. It will get closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
