Finnish defence forces mod 1.1

[Smartti 1]

I haven't found any new units that actually use the new weapons PPscH-41, RK-95 VV2000 and Barrett(?).

My turn to nitpick!

It's PPSh-41  (or PPSch-41 if you're german). The last two letters is typed with a capital S followed by a lowercase h, as it's a translitteration of one cyrillic letter. PPSh is an abbreviation from Pistolet Pulemyot Shpagina (Shpagin's submachinegun - compare with Avtomat Kalashnikova) and the original cyrillic designation has three letters.

Or PPSch-41 if you're English...  

Edit: Does it matter anyway?

[Consigliere 0]

I haven't found any new units that actually use the new weapons PPscH-41, RK-95 VV2000 and Barrett(?).

My turn to nitpick!

It's PPSh-41  (or PPSch-41 if you're german). The last two letters is typed with a capital S followed by a lowercase h, as it's a translitteration of one cyrillic letter. PPSh is an abbreviation from Pistolet Pulemyot Shpagina (Shpagin's submachinegun - compare with Avtomat Kalashnikova) and the original cyrillic designation has three letters.

Here's a wowwypop

[Grimmer 0]

Also, a readme with a bit of the units history and perpous could be really helpfull for people like me

You can find lots of information about FDF, its history, history of finland, etc, from the official pages of Finnish Defence Forces.

Finnish Defence Forces

http://www.mil.fi/english/

There are also good booklets about FDF in general.

Finnish Military Defence 2002

http://www.mil.fi/asioint...._02.pdf

Facts about The Finnish Defence Forces 2003

http://www.mil.fi/asioint...._en.pdf

[laulau 0]

I really love this mod. Probably the best one. The 1.0 was great and things are just getting better with the 1.1.

i have a little question about the tent. In the 1.0, it was possible to light a fire in the tent and smoke was coming out. If i remember well, it was the line "this inflame true". Since i installed the 1.1, this line doesn't work anymore.

Have you remove this possibility?

if not, what is the correct line to get the smoke?

thx for the answer.

[norsu 180]

Yes that feature was removed because it prevented those tents from collapsing.

[tykäri 0]

So, how about those Drakens? Any plans for them to be included in this mod?

[MikkoFin 0]

So, how about those Drakens? Any plans for them to be included in this mod?

No plans and probably no drakens.

[miles teg 1]

Well I guess mission makers can always include Footmunch's Draken into their missions. I didn't know Finland used the Draken so I'll definitely be using it in my FDF missions.

The only thing that I think really sucks is that the HIP doesn't even have a door gun. I can't imagine that any combat helicopter wouldn't have at least a door gun for self-defense.

Same for the MD-500. I don't really use it in any missions because it doesn't have any purpose except to draw fire from Russian machine guns.

But because I like big battles and helicopters take up alot of CPU power, I don't use the MD-500.

I really dig the Mig-21 however. So far that's the best looking Mig-21 model I've seen so far. I have one based on Footmunch's Mig-21 model that I've been working on (that I converted to a Mig-21BIS) for the Egyptian and Syrian airforce but I just can't seem to get the nose quite right.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[GoOB 0]

As far as I know the FDF doesn't use the MI-8 in a direct combat role so to speak. They use it to haul people and other resources within their own lines and to some extent behind enemy lines. The same reason why the Finnish emply only the F-18C and not the F/A-18. No Finnish nor Swedish helicopter is armed with a doorgun to my information not even the Swedish ones meant to insert units quickly have doorguns, but adding one for playabilities sake would be nice.

Also the MD-500 is a training/recon/"VIP" transport if I understand everything correctly.

EDIT: Also the Draken is out of Finnish service, but it would be sweet to have it along with the MIG-21.

[miles teg 1]

Ah ok. Thanks for clearing that up. That's kinda scary that the troop transport helicopters don't have door guns. But I suppose that in an emergency, soldiers carrying belt-fed machine guns could fire their weapons from the doorways.

Still in the OFP game, a door gun can often make a big difference when approaching a hot LZ. It also makes for MUCH funner MP games. I've played some excellent MP games where I was the door gunner on a UH-60MG and I provided air support for the other players in the ground assault team. This is even funner with the BAS blackhawks with the M134 miniguns. Just like in real life, they provide superior suppressive fire because due to their high rate of fire then can saturate an area with bullets. The pilots can also fly faster over a target area while still giving the player (or the AI gunner) a decent chance of hitting an enemy soldier.

But I'd just be happy with a PKM on the HIP.

As for the F/A-18 I imagine that the HAWK fighter is used as a fighter bomber rather then the F/A-18 because it is short ranged and designed more for defense work rather then long range bombing. I'm surprised they haven't upgraded to something like the Su-25 (or the newer variants).

Anyhoo... oh... one last thing.

Does the FDF uses the AT-3 Suitcase Sagger?

I've been dying for someone to make a Suitcase Sagger addon that can be picked up and carried around in its suitcase and then deployed by the gunner.

I know it would be impossible to simulate the joystick operated guidance system (kinda like flying a remote controlled plane), but at least the SACLOS guidance could be simulated (where the missile follows whatever target you keep the weapons sights on.)

If the FDF uses the AT-3 it would be a FANTASTIC addition to the FDF pack in addition to a standalone addon that could be used by many different mods since the AT-3 Sagger is one of the most common (and cheapest) ATGM's in the world.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[EiZei 0]

As for the F/A-18 I imagine that the HAWK fighter is used as a fighter bomber rather then the F/A-18 because it is short ranged and designed more for defense work rather then long range bombing. I'm surprised they haven't upgraded to something like the Su-25 (or the newer variants).

Anyhoo... oh... one last thing.

Does the FDF uses the AT-3 Suitcase Sagger?

I've been dying for someone to make a Suitcase Sagger addon that can be picked up and carried around in its suitcase and then deployed by the gunner.

FDF does not use AT-3 sagger IIRC, and we dont have AG-capable planes because of political reasons, some think they are too "aggressive". FAF claims that the hawk would not be used during war time (hawk is used for training during peacetime) at all but who knows..

[laulau 0]

an other question about the features of this mod. i've read the read me classnames but i couldn't find the name of the tripwires as ammo like those that the engineer can deploy. I want to put some of them in an ammo box, I tried FDF_flarewire and FDF_tripwire as ammo name but it didn't work

could someone help me with it? please......

[Smartti 1]

Anyhoo... oh... one last thing.  

Does the FDF uses the AT-3 Suitcase Sagger?  

Saggers were mounted originally on BMP-1s. Nowadays replaced with more modern missile - Spandrel. IIRC.

[Smartti 1]

could someone help me with it? please......

FDFTripwire

FDFTripwireLong

FDFTripwireFlare

[GoOB 0]

I will be uploading the Finmod1.0 readme if the Finmod crew hasn't put it on their forum or somewhere else. As this contains the codes for

armpatch rank markings etc.  

EDIT: SmartDrv beat me to it  

[Smartti 1]

I will be uploading the Finmod1.0 readme if the Finmod crew hasn't put it on their forum or somewhere else. As this contains the codes for

armpatch rank markings etc.  

EDIT: SmartDrv beat me to it  

Wrote Post-It note about those missing.

[GoOB 0]

The 1.0 readme is uploaded to Blackdogs server, I hope he doesn't mind but I figure the traffic to the thread on the Finmod forums would be about equal

1.0 README

[laulau 0]

Thank you.

[Blake 0]

No. But FDF has used first-generation Vigilante AT-missile which is joystic-guided like Sagger and launched from boxes on ground.

[GoOB 0]

I would like to make a huge request for a thing to be included in a future version of FDFMOD. Finnish KFOR units! Sisu APC's without the ITKK painted in olive drab etc. Soldiers in green berets and olive drab uniforms and things like that. Since I have had a major "romance affair" with Nordic units acting abroad for quite some time now. Is there any possibility of adding similar units in future FDFMOD versions?

[Wonder 0]

EDIT: Also the Draken is out of Finnish service, but it would be sweet to have it along with the MIG-21.

The MGs retired in ´98 while the DKs stayded until the end of 2000

[Gollum1 0]

I would like to make a huge request for a thing to be included in a future version of FDFMOD. Finnish KFOR units! Sisu APC's without the ITKK painted in olive drab etc. Soldiers in green berets and olive drab uniforms and things like that. Since I have had a major "romance affair" with Nordic units acting abroad for quite some time now. Is there any possibility of adding similar units in future FDFMOD versions?  

I would like this, too. The most likely place where Finns would engage combat right now is Kosovo or one of the other peacekeeping areas.

[Raven Squad 0]

At first i want to thank FDF mod team for great work. Then to the request. Is there any chance that next releases would have proto sisu and 120 mm mortar?

[Blake 0]

Mortars in wheeled vehicles - they simply don't work in OFP.

[blackdog~ 0]

The 1.0 readme is uploaded to Blackdogs server, I hope he doesn't mind but I figure the traffic to the thread on the Finmod forums would be about equal  

1.0 README