The Frenchman 0 Posted September 7, 2003 Would you replace the T55's ingame with RHS's? And also could you replace some of the civilian cars with the GAZ 24 addon? [Gareth Gates must die ] You could always replace it with Silesian's excellent retextured T55. Â But it wont have all those pretty features. Â [skul must die] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted September 8, 2003 Hey Aeon, a couple of weapon suggestions: - Some sort of shotgun (maybe sawed off?) - A crossbow for a silent weapon - "Homemade" suppressor for rifles or pistols: the kind of stuff people whip up out of plastic soda bottles and gaffer tape... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeon 0 Posted September 8, 2003 As I already said, I don't have Oxygen so... And I rather not talk about vehicle it isn't planned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted September 9, 2003 Well, I know of a sawed of double barrell shotgun addon (I'm pretty sure I could get you permission to use it - the author gave me permission to modify it), and there at least two crossbow addons out...if you're interested you could ask if you could use one. Â As for the suppressor, well, I guess without Oxygen it's not possible. If I had any 3D skills I'd have a crack at it for you. Â In fact, I have a little idea, so if I can get it working, I'll donate it to your mod... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeon 0 Posted September 9, 2003 I love the shotgun idea, and I think I know the sawed double barrel shotgun you talking about. Unfortunely it is not good enough (no offense to the author), the model could be much better and there are not enough different texture parts. Crossbow...no, it's just some commando folks. I didn't see any Mujahdeen/IRA/Palestinian or any other guerilla soldier with crossbow in hands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted September 10, 2003 I will send you the shotgun I'm talking about - while it's pretty old now, I think a good retexture job would make it look as good as anything out now - the base mosel seems fine to me. Anyway, it's your call on whether to use it or not. Same with the crossbow - if you don't think it fits your mod, that's cool too. And I'm still working on the "homemade" loking suppressor idea - maybe suppressed AKs and Makarovs/Tokarev pistols. I'll let you know when I make any progress with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman 0 Posted September 10, 2003 "homemade" loking suppressor A hollowed-out bear can? Â But seriously, what is a homemade silencer? (Edit:7 more posts till I get to bed! Must....reach..... 950 posts! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted September 10, 2003 Why not homemade... In Chechen wars soldiers/rebels often used Plastic botles with lil holes at the end fitted to old hunting rifles or similar stuff to reduce the firing sound a bit... And so a new more silent short range sniper rifle was invented, the SV-99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted September 10, 2003 People have used all kinds of stuff to (illegally?) suppress firearms - plastic bottles, oil filters etc. In fact, you can even buy books on how to make your own "silencers". I won't discuss the methodology here, as it is on questionable legal ground. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeon 0 Posted September 10, 2003 FIA weapon couldn't anymore be compatible with JAM... I know, I said it will at least for AK... Sorry for those which disapproves. Let's me to give you the explanation : I scripted a new tracer effect (not really finished, but near) no more draw everywhere. I can't give you screenshot because the effect is too quick and you must to see it in game to appreciate it. I could spawn tracer effect for 1/5 rounds (or 1/3 for MG?) -not regular but as ratio- I asked to BAS to make no tracer ammunition for JAM update but they didn't want. So I can't add my tracer effect + BIS tracer effect (it would be too much!) About the script itself, no-loop/no-createvehicle only a "drop", it will not stress CPU Anyway I will re-use JAM's ballistic values and hit sounds for AK-47 to remain conform with other JAM-compatible addon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suchey 0 Posted September 10, 2003 Maybe you could show your new tracer effects to BAS...perhaps they would consider using it in JAM itself. It sounds like a really nice addition to OFP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeon 0 Posted September 16, 2003 Edge and myself still working on it. I desesperatly look for a good hunt civilian double barrel shotgun or a sawn- off shotgun, but I didn't find... I think I should just re-use Kozlice shotgun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted September 16, 2003 Maybe you could still use JAM weapon sounds (with permission of course), since a lot of people use JAM units, the sounds are good and it´s strange when a lot of weapons of the same type sound different... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Fubar 0 Posted September 16, 2003 Edge and myself still working on it. I desesperatly look for a good hunt civilian double barrel shotgun or a sawn- off shotgun, but I didn't find... I think I should just re-use Kozlice shotgun Sorry dude, I'll send you that double barrell sawed off that I have - I'm sure with your texturing skills you could make it look very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eviscerator 0 Posted September 17, 2003 Its already been suggested, but why not just share the tracer scripting with us so that it can be incorporated into JAM? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted September 18, 2003 Its already been suggested, but why not just share the tracer scripting with us so that it can be incorporated into JAM? not a bad idea~~,cause i had had enought of those tracer, too mant of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge 2 Posted September 22, 2003 I would like to reveal something more of the texturing part of discussed addon. Published units will slightly vary from those pictured. BTW the BTR-80 is sweet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted September 22, 2003 Nice units...but what´s with the caption? Is this part of some kind of campaign or is it just for atmosphere? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SelectThis 0 Posted September 22, 2003 Aeon, Firstly thanks for passing on the tracer script, innovative peice of work. However, we do have a concern with the CPU load especailly in the following areas. 1) the Fired EH - there are alot of different weapons, magazines and ammo types in JAM, so to include a check for all the different types in the Fired EH might be a bit much especially considering it's running the check for every bullet fired. 2) given the volume of fire that can be generated with HD weapons, it could be possible to have 20 bullets in the air at any one time, which would mean 20 scripts running at the same time. Note, that our concerns are purely theory, do you have any test results on system usage with say 48 units firing at each other? SelectThis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jotte 0 Posted September 22, 2003 Thats a pretty fantastic feat to operate a BTR-80 in 1972. The units look very neat though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gollum1 0 Posted September 22, 2003 Thats a pretty fantastic feat to operate a BTR-80 in 1972. Â Â HA true, true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aeon 0 Posted September 23, 2003 Aeon,Firstly thanks for passing on the tracer script, innovative peice of work. However, we do have a concern with the CPU load especailly in the following areas. 1) the Fired EH - there are alot of different weapons, magazines and ammo types in JAM, so to include a check for all the different types in the Fired EH might be a bit much especially considering it's running the check for every bullet fired. 2) given the volume of fire that can be generated with HD weapons, it could be possible to have 20 bullets in the air at any one time, which would mean 20 scripts running at the same time. Note, that our concerns are purely theory, do you have any test results on system usage with say 48 units firing at each other? SelectThis 1) In your case every condition/check for all differents ammo could affect CPU load...but I don't really know, because I never encounter a such problem with my only 3 weapons class I suggest to define only one ratio (1/3) for every weapon; and to duplicate the script (one for green tracer + one for red tracer). It could resolve the problem : only one EH and no ammo check! East unit class will call GreenTracer.sqs, and so West unit class will call RedTracer.sqs ... Of course you understand that if a East unit pick a West weapon, he still firing green tracer  2) There isn't any recursive loop, and drop particle is very soft with CPU load, the script itself while running is cool with CPU. Now about the instance step (I mean -Open the script/execute the script/close the script-) I proceed to a test : 30 units with RPD Vs 30 units with RPD (during 20 seconds) (RPD have good rate of fire, high-moderate dispersion and tracer ratio 1/3) Frames: 481 - Time: 20329ms - Avg: 23.660 - Min: 15 - Max: 32 30 units with PK Vs 30 units with PK (during 20 seconds) (Original PK from BIS) Frames: 667 - Time: 20319ms - Avg: 32.826 - Min: 27 - Max: 42 * Config : XP 1800+ , GeForce 4200 , 512 RAM ** My current script have an additional jammed condition/check, but even if I would have remove it I think I will still loose approximately -10 FPS when using tracer script IMHO it's acceptable, according to the fact that huge battle with 60 AI/player with machine gun are quite rare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge 2 Posted September 23, 2003 Thats a pretty fantastic feat to operate a BTR-80 in 1972. You caught me. I may pretend it was a joke but I should honestly say that it is my fault. Of course it is a nonsense, I liked those APCs too much so it prevailed over my common sense... Apologies to any offended military fans, of course there should be rather "1985". You know, this is what you could expext from the texture painter on 23 p.m. after long day texture painting... Gollum1: The (wrong) caption is just for atmosphere. But maybe some mission maker will make some "Operation Weeping Chimney" after he reads the caption. The game is all about stories... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman 0 Posted September 23, 2003 This came to me in a dream: Since these guys are rebel forces, that means they scavenge for materials from thier former jobs or from dead bodies. So lets say a Nogova police officer joins the resistance. His clothing might be half police uniform with half resistance camo. Lets say a member of the Nogovan Militia joined the resistance. He would be wearing Nogovan Militia uniform but maybe more worn. Now lets say an average joe joined the resistance. He would scavenge from dead russians and US soldiers. His clothing would have a M1 or PASGT helmet(can take the model from sebnam or BAS) and nogovan oak pattern. (PS:Can I be a beta tester? ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites