WhoCares 0 Posted March 23, 2003 Just have seen the report of the POWs. Scary stuff. Interesting also the woman that said, she is from 507 Maintenance or something alike. I doubt, that maintenance is meant to be on the front so they might have caught them behind the frontline. Maybe a problem of the fast race north that left some flanks uncovered... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZIKAN 0 Posted March 23, 2003 These Pows are they from support units? If so it shows that the push towards Baghdad at such speed as left the tail end vunerable to attack from small pockets of Iraqi troops.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 23, 2003 Ten dead American soldiers in an Iraqi attack on an armoured column. - BBC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 28 Posted March 23, 2003 I really really hope they don't treat the woman prisoner as badly as I think we all expect they will treat her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 28 Posted March 23, 2003 Denoir how about editing Warin's post to add a list of URL's to the various news sites and live feeds that have been collected over the duration of this thread's life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 23, 2003 We just saw the 3 of them now on the 6PM news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhoCares 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (placebo @ Mar. 23 2003,17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I really really hope they don't treat the woman prisoner as badly as I think we all expect they will treat her.<span id='postcolor'> Probably not, as they will further exploit them for some propaganda. But nobody knows, what happens to those, that will be caught in the future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tracy_t 0 Posted March 23, 2003 Denoir, where did you get the "Ten dead American soldiers in an Iraqi attack on an armoured column" story from? I can't see any of that on bbc.co.uk/news and I've searched extensively. Did you hear that on the World Service (radio)? If you could post a direct URL to the story, that'd be great. BTW, do the Iraqi's have any weapons that could dent an M1A1/A2 - is the tank vulnerable to top-attack? Pardon my ignorance, but apart from mines what do the Iraqis have that could threaten such tanks? Again, certain elements of the UK media make out the Abrams to be practically indestructible. Regards, Tracy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 23, 2003 Musol in N. Iraq being bombed. Iraqis returning AAA fire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted March 23, 2003 Several of the soldiers were definately executed on the video being run by Al-Jezeera. As for rape, then POWs from the last Gulf War can attest to the fact that the men have more to fear then the women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (tracy_t @ Mar. 23 2003,18:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Denoir, where did you get the "Ten dead American soldiers in an Iraqi attack on an armoured column" story from?<span id='postcolor'> http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....2431611 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 23, 2003 I've added a new thread where you can post your favourite news sources. It will later be compiled in a list and added to the first post in this thread. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Several of the soldiers were definately executed on the video being run by Al-Jezeera<span id='postcolor'> What makes you think that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tracy_t 0 Posted March 23, 2003 On subject of armour, we'd better pray that the following story is not true... the latest Russian AT weaponry could cause the coalition a lot of problems... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm....id=1473 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.o.R.S.u 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 23 2003,17:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've added a new thread where you can post your favourite news sources. It will later be compiled in a list and added to the first post in this thread. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Several of the soldiers were definately executed on the video being run by Al-Jezeera<span id='postcolor'> What makes you think that?<span id='postcolor'> Just watched those news from BBC and they said that some of those dead US soldiers were executed. However they didn't emphasize that fact, just quickly mentioned it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (denoir @ Mar. 23 2003,08:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've added a new thread where you can post your favourite news sources. It will later be compiled in a list and added to the first post in this thread. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Several of the soldiers were definately executed on the video being run by Al-Jezeera<span id='postcolor'> What makes you think that?<span id='postcolor'> The fact that they were shot in the head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted March 23, 2003 Is it against the Geneva convention to show POW's on TV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 23, 2003 Sky News was just showing US Marines attacking a few Iraqi squads.. When they blew a building apart (With a Javelin), everyone started Hoo-ah'ing, and cheering!? Isn't that a little unprofessional? (No offense! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it against the Geneva convention to show POW's on TV? <span id='postcolor'> Yes, as it infringes on their diginity... Howver, we have been doing in for days (Western Forces), so we can't complain. (People will though) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Longinius 1 Posted March 23, 2003 "When they blew a building apart (With a Javelin), everyone started Hoo-ah'ing, and cheering!? Isn't that a little unprofessional? (No offense! )" Unproffesional? Come on, man. We are talking about people with their life on the line, high on adrenaline and with only one thought in their mind: Survival. Their survival depends on fighting the enemy, and defeating them. I think we can let them Hoo-ah a bit when their support forces actually get something right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallenPaladin 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 23 2003,17:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sky News was just showing US Marines attacking a few Iraqi squads.. When they blew a building apart (With a Javelin), everyone started Hoo-ah'ing, and cheering!? Isn't that a little unprofessional? (No offense! )<span id='postcolor'> Yes, I`ve seen this footage too. Pretty stupid behaviour! When I got my military training I was taught even to cover my feets and don`t give the enemy too much from my body to shoot at. But those guys are happily showing their whole torsos and even walking around??? Either they are nuts or this video is just a show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Mar. 23 2003,17:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The fact that they were shot in the head.<span id='postcolor'> Really? I havn't seen the whole segment, my connection to the Al-Jazeera feed went down, but the close-ups that I saw showed wounds in the upper torso, stomach and legs. If it's true that they were executed then the Iraqis are fucking stupid. It's only going to strengthen the support for war if people see the Iraqi soldiers as monsters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Unproffesional? Come on, man. We are talking about people with their life on the line, high on adrenaline and with only one thought in their mind: Survival. Their survival depends on fighting the enemy, and defeating them. I think we can let them Hoo-ah a bit when their support forces actually get something right.<span id='postcolor'> Prob'ly just a different ethos rearding conduct. We try to keep it to a minimum until the jobs done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZIKAN 0 Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 23 2003,17:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sky News was just showing US Marines attacking a few Iraqi squads.. When they blew a building apart (With a Javelin), everyone started Hoo-ah'ing, and cheering!? Isn't that a little unprofessional? (No offense! )<span id='postcolor'> lol i think they were complimenting their buddy on his accurate shooting, which to be fair was pretty good at that distance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 23, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Longinius @ Mar. 23 2003,17:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"When they blew a building apart (With a Javelin), everyone started Hoo-ah'ing, and cheering!? Isn't that a little unprofessional? (No offense! )" Unproffesional? Come on, man. We are talking about people with their life on the line, high on adrenaline and with only one thought in their mind: Survival. Their survival depends on fighting the enemy, and defeating them. I think we can let them Hoo-ah a bit when their support forces actually get something right.<span id='postcolor'> I agree. It's a natural reaction. I would not in any case hold it against them. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is it against the Geneva convention to show POW's on TV? <span id='postcolor'> Not really. Well, it's a matter of interpretation. The Geneva conventions forbid the humiliation of enemy soldiers. However since we have been shown plenty of pictures and some interviews of Iraqi POWs, this is a non-issue and Rumsfeld is just being incredibly stupid for bringing it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 23, 2003 It looks like the GR4 crew was killed..... I hope there is a proper investigation into this, and not the farce that was the investigation into the A10/Warrior incident in '91. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
