Guest Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 21 2003,19:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Seen a few SAM launches. I hope any aircrews in the area watch themselves. It appears to be multiple cruise missile strikes mainly.<span id='postcolor'> I hope those on the ground watch themselves as well. I'm much more worried about the civvies.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Badgerboy @ Mar. 21 2003,10:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Seen a few SAM launches. I hope any aircrews in the area watch themselves. It appears to be multiple cruise missile strikes mainly.<span id='postcolor'> I would disagree. I think there were some cruise missiles, but I think there were quite a few B2s dropping JDAMS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted March 21, 2003 They really want that building down. It s the 5th or 6th missle that s hitting that one ... ( close to the hotel CNN is staying ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 I hope US targetting processes have improved as well. (Chinese Embassy, air raid bunker in '91). Looks crazy, but the warheads don't seem too big.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphwiggum 6 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Mar. 21 2003,19:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They really want that building down. It s the 5th or 6th missle that s hitting that one ... ( close to the hotel CNN is staying )<span id='postcolor'> which building? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (RalphWiggum @ Mar. 21 2003,19:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (JAP @ Mar. 21 2003,19:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">They really want that building down. It s the 5th or 6th missle that s hitting that one ... ( close to the hotel CNN is staying )<span id='postcolor'> which building? <span id='postcolor'> Uhm, ... the one that was there 10 minutes ago ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I would disagree. I think there were some cruise missiles, but I think there were quite a few B2s dropping JDAMS.<span id='postcolor'> Looking at a replay, it seems a series of explosion erupted virtually one of the other, in reasonably close proximity. (4 or so), so yes it would seem your right in regard to the JDAM's. Just thinking, have the US scrambled the GPS co-ords yet? (Knocks them out by a few dozen feet). I'll check with our differential GPS tomorrow) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted March 21, 2003 A reporter on the ground in Baghdad says there are actually no particular targets where the dozens of bombs have landed. She says this is basically carpet bombing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted March 21, 2003 Yep the one Denoir posted. Seems they are penetrating a bunker underneath it deeper and deeper..... Must be Command and Control under there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A reporter on the ground in Baghdad says there are actually no particular targets where the dozens of bombs have landed. She says this is basically carpet bombing!<span id='postcolor'> The Presidential compounds are huge. Dropping 40 2000lb dumb bombs is not going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi civilians. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Mar. 21 2003,10:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A reporter on the ground in Baghdad says there are actually no particular targets where the dozens of bombs have landed. Â She says this is basically carpet bombing!<span id='postcolor'> Doubt it, most of these were grouped together. I could be wrong, but I believe most of these fell in the "military area" near the Presidential palace. The other thing that supports that claim is that you're not hearing so many firetrucks and such. And power is still on. If it was carpet bombing I imagine a transformer or station would have taken a hit or been over or under loaded by masses of houses being taken out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shrike 0 Posted March 21, 2003 What a greedy, violent, egoistic bunch of assholes mankind is... I am grateful for the pictures on TV...for they remind me what it's worth living and standing up for...on the other side they make me doubt humanity will ever evolve... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JAP 2 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Othin @ Mar. 21 2003,19:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bn880 @ Mar. 21 2003,10:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A reporter on the ground in Baghdad says there are actually no particular targets where the dozens of bombs have landed. Â She says this is basically carpet bombing!<span id='postcolor'> Doubt it, most of these were grouped together. Â I could be wrong, but I believe most of these fell in the "military area" near the Presidential palace. The other thing that supports that claim is that you're not hearing so many firetrucks and such. Â And power is still on. Â If it was carpet bombing I imagine a transformer or station would have taken a hit or been over or under loaded by masses of houses being taken out.<span id='postcolor'> I agree. Bombing seems random, but i doubt it is. Explosions seem to be hitting same targets over and over ... My thoughts is they are hitting the bunkers below the buildings ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted March 21, 2003 Sure, I'm jsut telling you what people on the ground are reporting. I'll believe 50% of those bombs hit proper targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Othin 0 Posted March 21, 2003 In other news... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badgerboy 0 Posted March 21, 2003 </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> In other news... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH <span id='postcolor'> Excellent. I was weighing upstarting anew nicksoIcould keep my post count! Then I remebered Denoir would hunt me down and exorcise me... (It's in violation of forum rules you know! Being a demon that is, not having 2 nicks) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsthatyouJohnWayne 0 Posted March 21, 2003 eeekkk anyway it seems this time they really have captured Umm Qasr although there may still be fighting at the old port or the surrounding area war Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Iraq troops have set fire to several oil rigs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted March 21, 2003 After some tedious work, I've compiled a map from coordinates that I got from my old boss earlier today (and got permission to release them). larger image (400 kb) Yellow = civilian infrastructure that probably will be targeted Blue = political infrastructure Red = military infrastructure' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsthatyouJohnWayne 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Perhaps you mean oil wells, the ones inland? luckily ,though many oil wells in the south have been set alight (a few handfuls out of many hundreds) the southern oil/gas seperation plants have been taken and held. Their destruction would have made large scale oil processing impossible for months or years. This would be unlucky for the Iraqi people (as well as the greedy bastard oil companies). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winters 1 Posted March 21, 2003 Denoir, who is your old boss? I saw mine on TV last night, good ole Stormin Norman himself. I was like "Hey, thats my old boss, he looking good" Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted March 21, 2003 Good picture Denoir, thanks. And it seems right too from what I'v seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsthatyouJohnWayne 0 Posted March 21, 2003 according to other maps most international (ie -those with reporters inside) hotels (palestine hotel ,Sheraton etc) are on the same bank of the river as the international communications centre and are the same distance from the river, just above the horizontal plane of the intelligence services HQ so i would think that would be where most of the Baghdad pictures are coming from Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
