TrueCruel_Nobody 35 Posted June 15, 2016 Hi! I asked myself if the new map will have a lite version in a (not so) distant future. Many would be surely angry if that will be the case (why buy it then right?, those who bought it were ripped off etc.), but I personally would find it very awesome. I do own already Apex, but having a low texture version of the map would not split the community. We could all still playing with each other without relying on a DLC, or someone beeing "forced" to buy it he/she has friends who play mainly on Tanoa. So what you guys think? What you devs think? Yes? No? Maybe? Sh** up OP and go away? If it is really a No-Go for you devs, then please feel free to lock this thread :) I will not be angry ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papanowel 120 Posted June 15, 2016 It would be a waste of man power and I don't see how you can enjoy a map with low texture... 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrueCruel_Nobody 35 Posted June 15, 2016 It would be a waste of man power and I don't see how you can enjoy a map with low texture... Must not be made by BI, but allowed by them so the community (e.g. CUP team) could make that happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richie 330 Posted June 15, 2016 Personally i'd rather support BI for future releases then wish for them to waste resources on a lite version, DLC adds money to the BI bank, that then allows them to keep moving forward, we all benefit :) 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 15, 2016 Well, not being able to use things one didn't pay for is quite normal. I understand the community split, but the content and quality of this DLC (even Tanoa alone from the sneak-peak we all get from pre-ordering) is substantial enough to warrant a purchase. Not only that, but supporting BI is always a good thing ;) We all know that the "LITE" content's security measures (such as not being able to drive vehicles from the DLCs you didn't purchase) just gets exploited with simple scripting commands (unsure if this has changed though), therefore resulting in, in certain perspectives, theft. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
austin_medic 109 Posted June 15, 2016 We all know that the "LITE" content's security measures (such as not being able to drive vehicles from the DLCs you didn't purchase) just gets exploited with simple scripting commands (unsure if this has changed though), therefore resulting in, in certain perspectives, theft. What? It never was theft to begin with. Bohemia was well aware that people could use scripting commands to get around it, it was completely intentional, otherwise I'd be questioning how they could NOT notice it at some point. To my knowledge there is no plans for that system for vehicles to change. You still get a disadvantage with the tiles being plastered across the screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineptaphid 6413 Posted June 15, 2016 It seems pointless to me. Arma is a game that has given so ,so much time-I am over 2000 hours-that for the relatively small price I have no issue buying Apex. Compared to most DLC for games BI is very lenient and does not split communities. Compare Arma to something like battlefield. Tiny map and weapon packs-usually 5 or 6 of them released which completely fragment the communities and end up with lists of servers that cannot be joined. I also dont think it will "split the community". It's one map. There are dozens of maps out there now-all free. For instance, I don't use Namalsk or Lingor or Isla Duala or several others..No reason-I just did not download them. I dont feel split from the community at all.What difference does one more map make? And at the end of the day thats all it is-one more map. People did not get up in arms when Op.Arrowhead released-or any of the other Arma2 DLC's. Whats the difference in this situation? 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ti0n3r Posted June 15, 2016 No. I have no sympathy for the poor! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadHabitz 235 Posted June 15, 2016 I look at Arma as a hobby. Hobbies cost money. If you're really into Arma and Arma is 'your game' you should have no problem paying for an expansion. The expansion was announced 10 months ago. If you're so poor that you can't save $3 a month to spend on a game that you love then you should turn off your PC and go find a way to improve your standard of living. Seriously. I voted "I don't care". 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haleks 8212 Posted June 15, 2016 Arma is a game that has given so ,so much time-I am over 2000 hours-that for the relatively small price I have no issue buying Apex. This! Along with Kerbal Space Program, Arma3 has been the best deal for me in the last years - I think the Alpha access was something like 15 or 20 euros. I don't know how many hours I've sunk into it for that price, but you can't beat that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted June 15, 2016 No. I have no sympathy for the poor! It is not about sympathy to be honest. anyone who owns a pc that can run A3, should afford the apex price... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineptaphid 6413 Posted June 15, 2016 I look at Arma as a hobby. Hobbies cost money. If you're really into Arma and Arma is 'your game' you should have no problem paying for an expansion. The expansion was announced 10 months ago. If you're so poor that you can't save $3 a month to spend on a game that you love then you should turn off your PC and go find a way to improve your standard of living. Seriously. I voted "I don't care". I have to disagree with this statement. This is not the point of the thread. As someone who has been as poor as you can get for a time in my life, I can understand someone not having Apex.It's not about "not being able to save 3 dollars" it's about not being able to justify the expense for something that at the end of the day is a luxury. And telling someone to "turn off their PC and go improve their life" is just silly. When you are totally broke and have nothing in your life, the little things are what keeps you going.Being able to come home from a crappy job and play a bit of Arma or any other game is a small enjoyment that anyone should have the right to. I still am not in favour of a Tanoa lite or anything like it, but not for that reason at all. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted June 15, 2016 it's about not being able to justify the expense for something that at the end of the day is a luxury. [..] Being able to come home from a crappy job and play a bit of Arma or any other game is a small enjoyment that anyone should have the right to. you contradict yourself here: first you say it is a luxury, then that is is a right everyone should have access to...do make up your mind. Hobbies are luxuries that not everyone can afford (time and costs related) And telling someone to "turn off their PC and go improve their life" is just silly. i personally don't find it silly, even if that means using the PC to find a better job, perfect some existing skills etc... at the end of the day, games are also a business...besides the colossal waste of time needed for such an en-devour (in fact most of it could be automated), what is there to be gained from BI perspective? nothing much i learn that you cannot expect shit for free in life. Some are payed with money, some with other forms of currency, but it always gets paid 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineptaphid 6413 Posted June 16, 2016 you contradict yourself here: first you say it is a luxury, then that is is a right everyone should have access to...do make up your mind. Hobbies are luxuries that not everyone can afford (time and costs related) i personally don't find it silly, even if that means using the PC to find a better job, perfect some existing skills etc... at the end of the day, games are also a business...besides the colossal waste of time needed for such an en-devour (in fact most of it could be automated), what is there to be gained from BI perspective? nothing much i learn that you cannot expect shit for free in life. Some are payed with money, some with other forms of currency, but it always gets paid What I meant was, I don't agree with people when they say people should stop playing games and go sort their lift out-that's all. I meant that when you are broke -in a low paying job or for other reasons (in my situation I was in a well paid job, but medical expenses meant we were living on the breadline) I still think being able to relax and play some games is very important. All I meant was I don't like people telling others that if they cant afford a piece of DLC then they have no business playing games ad should be off doing something else. That's all. I agree with you about Lite Tanoa being pointless from Bi's perspective and as I said-I don't think it will split any communities. Anyway-this is all offtopic. No-a Lite Tanoa is not a good idea in my opinion. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 16, 2016 To keep it simple: you get what you pay for. There's not much of a multiplayer community in the sense we had pre-DayZ that warrants an Apex LITE. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djotacon 190 Posted June 16, 2016 Why asking for a Tanoa-like and not wait for a sale reduction prize in the near future? The devs has rigth to earn money for his work and a plus of that the money for the dlc we can support them for future patches and updates for the game. I see a lot of people asking this dlc for free (not in this forum), and Tanoa DLC contains a new entire faction with a coop campaing with plenty weapons and new gorgeous entire map, for a very reduced prize. I think right now asking for a tanoa lite right now is a nonsense, theres a pletora of maps for free and content for free made for the community. If someone wants to play Tanoa I suggest wait for a prize reduction offer in the future. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mirek 166 Posted June 16, 2016 Voted NO. I dont Own the expansion yet, and if i decide to try it out, i will just pay for it. I might wait for some steam sale to get it cheaper, and i probably will, but thats me being greedy bastard. BIS does a great job making games and deserve to be revarded for the job. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterla 14 Posted June 16, 2016 Nope. If you enjoy the game support the developers. This DLC(with the amount of content it has) is worth the money you pay. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted June 16, 2016 It seems the vote is clear :) I voted no. I simply don't believe in the whole "split community" thing at all - if you don't have a map, you don't play on that particular server. Same goes for all other maps be they expansion or mod. For me, my main blocker is my bandwidth. To download some map I need if I don't already have it can be several hours per gb. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted June 16, 2016 You can only avoid splits for so long before it becomes too much, the cost of a fast food dinner for two as a one time payment isn't asking too much for what you get.Besides BI tried the low res texture thing before and people had fits, furthermore Arma 2 lite was a thing before because it was so far in Arma 2's lifespan, and it didn't include Operation Arrowhead either. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainAzimuth 714 Posted June 16, 2016 Bohemia Interactive chose before they even started working on Apex. There won't be a lite version, ever. However, have you tried Lingor Island? Probably the closest you'll get, and you don't have to go "lite" either. Good news is, if you save up, Apex is still on sale till Jully 11th. You have some time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chortles 263 Posted June 16, 2016 You can only avoid splits for so long before it becomes too much, the cost of a fast food dinner for two as a one time payment isn't asking too much for what you get. Besides BI tried the low res texture thing before and people had fits, furthermore Arma 2 lite was a thing before it was so far in Arma 2's lifespan, and it didn't include Operation Arrowhead either. Nailed it... at last check OA became "the place to be" because of the combination of exclusive engine features (stuff that didn't get backported into A2) and because of modder/mission maker willingness to include an OA dependency; the Steam DLC delivery method and Bohemia's pre-existing Arma 3 DLC strategy make the former a moot point (features come to the base game) but if Apex is liked enough by both players and modders/mission makers than I dare imagine that we'll get to a similar point someday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineptaphid 6413 Posted June 16, 2016 Yeah, i think this is fairly conclusive now-nobody seems to think a lite version is required. And anyway, no other company puts out Lite versions of DLC.There are no Lite map packs for shooters, no Lite DLC for GTA or any other game with a large community-I dont see why BI should do one either. I am glad this thread did not devolve into a shouting match as can often happen however :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fn_Quiksilver 1636 Posted June 17, 2016 you contradict yourself here: first you say it is a luxury, then that is is a right everyone should have access to...do make up your mind. Hobbies are luxuries that not everyone can afford (time and costs related) i personally don't find it silly, even if that means using the PC to find a better job, perfect some existing skills etc... at the end of the day, games are also a business...besides the colossal waste of time needed for such an en-devour (in fact most of it could be automated), what is there to be gained from BI perspective? nothing much i learn that you cannot expect shit for free in life. Some are payed with money, some with other forms of currency, but it always gets paid the idea is that he wants it paid by others :) IE free stuff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ineptaphid 6413 Posted June 17, 2016 the idea is that he wants it paid by others :) IE free stuff! Who does?Me? I bought Apex the day it was announced-along with all the other DLC. And the OP of the thread also says he already has it... Maybe think for a moment so that you make a useful post next time.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
