Possible High-Quality Helicopters for Selection - STRICT Selection

[[evo] dan 79]

The Lakota for NATO perhaps as its just going into service now?

[DJankovic 401]

Mybe a pole where there is few HEAVY helicopters so devs can see what we prefer(but it is still their choice)

[CaptainAzimuth 714]

Mybe a pole where there is few HEAVY helicopters so devs can see what we prefer(but it is still their choice)

Well, this is less of a poll of a few HELO's, but more of suggestions to HELO's that are out there for selection, basically to provide BIS with enough detail, and suggestions to supply them with a baseline for their research. Sort of like the CAS aircraft thread I made where everyone gave in a metric ton of things, i'm pretty sure they saw at some, and went for the best, most fitting, and accurate with the base game. It's sort of like a Database of HELO's to do search on, and nick pick a few, and from there i'm sure they can figure something out.

[Big-Rooney 5]

I've got a strange feeling the DEVS probably might have the HELO's they want already considered prior to the roadmap announcement.

But what about a fictional hybrid, something similar to the CH-53/CH-47 hybrid in Metal Gear Solid 4

[odie0351 67]

I've got a strange feeling the DEVS probably might have the HELO's they want already considered prior to the roadmap announcement.

But what about a fictional hybrid, something similar to the CH-53/CH-47 hybrid in Metal Gear Solid 4

I've got to agree that the aircraft have probably already been selected, and going off what we've seen so far from A3 assets it could be just about anything, rejuvenated old war bird, modern work horse, futuristic prototype or we could end up with some more hybrids like the MI-48. At this point we're all just speculating and hoping.

I also agree with Big-Rooney that this would be an interesting idea.http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110504174816/metalgear/images/c/c6/PMC_Helicopter.png :cool:

[RushHour 11]

I´ll ask here since it´s chopper related,

Is there a way to change how the radar works in the blackfoot? Right now you can only lock on to stuff that the gunner can see through his sight. This creates problems when you´re flying alone with manual fire.

In comparison to the Orca for example you can lock targets behind you but with the blackfoot you need to be absolutely spot on with your aim to get a lock.

Is this really ment to be like that? i.e. that your ability to lock targets in the Blackfoot is entirely dependent on what the non-existant gunner sees. Seems like if you choose manual fire then your ability to lock targets should be from your viewpoint and not the gunner´s.

I really want to fly that chopper more but if you are alone an armed Orca is just superior in AG contacts.

[squirrel0311 16]

The Dhruv Hal - Rudra would make a good light attack helicopter for AAF or CSAT as well. http://imageshack.us/a/img801/3215/mysv.jpg

The Dhruv VT-XLH version would make a good civilian or Care Flight helicopter for Altis too. http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=102253

I would also like to see…

Westland Sea King (Altis Coastguard?)

KA- 226 (Civilian)

KA-62 (Police or Civilian) –This is almost the same as the Ka-60 though :(

Bell 525 – (Executive Business or Emergency Services)

Flying CAR - PAL-V One

and http://i57.tinypic.com/wc24nm.jpg (282 kB)

Zenith Air CH-701 http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/pic03/stol-air2air.jpg (Not a helicopter but wanted to throw it in there.)

The Future Heavy Lift Chinook looks pretty cool. Might make a good heavy for AAF or PMCs http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/advanced-tandem-heli-0108.jpg

I’d also like to see the KA-52 and KA-58 but I’d like those to be saved for the Russians if they ever jump in.

Also I have to mention the Transport Aircraft… I suppose they could fill the Heavy Lift gaps for CSAT and NATO....

NATO: V-44 http://i39.tinypic.com/5fkpl3.png

CSAT: Tilt-Wing An-70 :D http://i41.tinypic.com/2njhnpe.jpg (This isn’t doesn’t look like an An-70 but it gives you an idea.)

AAF: A400M (I guess if the AAF got this they could still use the future chinook or the Eurocopter HTH helicopter I posted eariler.)

I also agree with Big-Rooney that this would be an interesting idea.http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110504174816/metalgear/images/c/c6/PMC_Helicopter.png :cool:

That Metal Gear solid Helicopter is kind of like the one I dreamed up. Here’s my awesome drawing. Haha

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ntysk.png I want something with big doors on each side for guns and so the crew can kick out ammo crates and junk. :P …Oh and Coaxial rotors of course.

Edited May 11, 2014 by Squirrel0311

[Stekelenburg 10]

My guess:

NATO, Another Medium-Lift chopper: NH90 and a Heavy-lift chopper: CH53K

CSAT, Recon chopper: KA-226 and a Heavy-lift chopper: MI-38

AAF, Medium-lift chopper: Eurocopter EC725

[CaptainAzimuth 714]

I´ll ask here since it´s chopper related,

Is there a way to change how the radar works in the blackfoot? Right now you can only lock on to stuff that the gunner can see through his sight. This creates problems when you´re flying alone with manual fire.

In comparison to the Orca for example you can lock targets behind you but with the blackfoot you need to be absolutely spot on with your aim to get a lock.

Is this really ment to be like that? i.e. that your ability to lock targets in the Blackfoot is entirely dependent on what the non-existant gunner sees. Seems like if you choose manual fire then your ability to lock targets should be from your viewpoint and not the gunner´s.

I really want to fly that chopper more but if you are alone an armed Orca is just superior in AG contacts.

The name of this thread mentioning choppers, does not mean come here to ask questions. There is a Q&A thread already for anything regarding questions. Did you even read the Original Post?

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The Dhruv Hal - Rudra would make a good light attack helicopter for AAF or CSAT as well. http://imageshack.us/a/img801/3215/mysv.jpg

The Dhruv VT-XLH version would make a good civilian or Care Flight helicopter for Altis too. http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=102253

I would also like to see…

Westland Sea King (Altis Coastguard?)

KA- 226 (Civilian)

KA-62 (Police or Civilian) –This is almost the same as the Ka-60 though :(

Bell 525 – (Executive Business or Emergency Services)

Flying CAR - PAL-V One

and http://i57.tinypic.com/wc24nm.jpg (282 kB)

Zenith Air CH-701 http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/pic03/stol-air2air.jpg (Not a helicopter but wanted to throw it in there.)

The Future Heavy Lift Chinook looks pretty cool. Might make a good heavy for AAF or PMCs http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/advanced-tandem-heli-0108.jpg

I’d also like to see the KA-52 and KA-58 but I’d like those to be saved for the Russians if they ever jump in.

Also I have to mention the Transport Aircraft… I suppose they could fill the Heavy Lift gaps for CSAT and NATO....

NATO: V-44 http://i39.tinypic.com/5fkpl3.png

CSAT: Tilt-Wing An-70 :D http://i41.tinypic.com/2njhnpe.jpg (This isn’t doesn’t look like an An-70 but it gives you an idea.)

AAF: A400M (I guess if the AAF got this they could still use the future chinook or the Eurocopter HTH helicopter I posted eariler.)

That Metal Gear solid Helicopter is kind of like the one I dreamed up. Here’s my awesome drawing. Haha

http://i39.tinypic.com/2ntysk.png I want something with big doors on each side for guns and so the crew can kick out ammo crates and junk. :P …Oh and Coaxial rotors of course.

A lot of these don't follow the guidelines of this thread, via. Fixed wing and Attack helo. Come one, try to keep the thread clean of clutter. Also, on some other things you have that are WAYYY too Sci-Fi...

Let me show you guys how far Sci-Fi I will ever go.

Cant find a name for this one...

And the EC-X3 as mentioned earlier.

Even thoee, aren't Sci-Fi, because to the X-3 has already had fly time, and is a thing... And the Us army VTOL thing is basically been drawn out as practical and sort of the replacement of the V-22 Osprey. I personally have not seen any models of it. Anyhow...

[odie0351 67]

The name of this thread mentioning choppers, does not mean come here to ask questions. There is a Q&A thread already for anything regarding questions. Did you even read the Original Post?

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A lot of these don't follow the guidelines of this thread, via. Fixed wing and Attack helo. Come one, try to keep the thread clean of clutter. Also, on some other things you have that are WAYYY too Sci-Fi...

Let me show you guys how far Sci-Fi I will ever go.

Cant find a name for this one...

http://db3.stb.s-msn.com/i/C2/9E4AD84B7EB4FDC3E3C98F38957F3.jpg

And the EC-X3 as mentioned earlier.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uKF12JF3n2s/TQC1M9-LprI/AAAAAAAABug/a8sUOSujd5Q/s1600/CDPH-2603%2B188-717831.jpg

Even thoee, aren't Sci-Fi, because to the X-3 has already had fly time, and is a thing... And the Us army VTOL thing is basically been drawn out as practical and sort of the replacement of the V-22 Osprey. I personally have not seen any models of it. Anyhow...

The top one is the V-280 Valor I believe, and its not a replacement for the osprey. its a possible replacement for the Blackhawk so its not really even practical to put in game on official DLC being as in the game the Blackhawk was replaced by the ghosthawk. Also most of squirrel's "Sci-Fi" suggestions are actually well within the realm of possible. Don't forget that in game right now we have one completely fictional Helo, one loosely based on a secret prototype helo, one well known prototype that at this point has been cancelled for nearly a decade and a fictionally upgraded version of a real world aircraft. Sci-fi or not his suggestions cant be ruled out and are just as likely to be used by BIS as any real world helo you and I might prefer.

As for your other helo I would love to see that as a civilian bird in game. Wouldn't want to see it being used by the military factions though:confused:

[squirrel0311 16]

A lot of these don't follow the guidelines of this thread, via. Fixed wing and Attack helo. Come one, try to keep the thread clean of clutter. Also, on some other things you have that are WAYYY too Sci-Fi......(Filler)....Even thoee, aren't Sci-Fi, because to the X-3 has already had fly time, and is a thing... And the Us army VTOL thing is basically been drawn out as practical and sort of the replacement of the V-22 Osprey. I personally have not seen any models of it. Anyhow...

Well allow me to explain…

Light Attack: The Dhruv Hal – Rudra was originally intended for the thread about attack choppers but I don’t see it anymore. However I didn’t see the Attack chopper exclusion anyway until now. I simply pasted it to the top as a partner for the Care flight helicopter.

If you’re going for Real world CURRENT UTILITY ONLY… it might help to put that directly in the title to help cut down on confusion…. “Possible High Quality†seems like something else entirely.

Fixed Wing: I added the CH-701 because of its civilian use and STOL capabilities. If you’ve never seen one in action, I highly recommend looking it up.

The A400M is only there to stop others from wondering what the AAF would be left with hence why I didn’t add links.

SCI-FI:

As Odie said, while the picture I posted of the V-44 looks futuristic…It’s no different than this one… http://www.gods-inc.de/macavity/shad...boeing_qtr.jpg other than looks and wingtips turning. Both are of a concept which is currently being explored.

To a degree, the same can be said for my wishes to see an An-70 Tilt-Wing… There is no such aircraft in planning…but one has already existed.(XC-142A)

(No sling capability though.)

I’ve already covered the V-22 Osprey, the Valor, and the X3 in my wish list, plus they’ve already been mentioned here.

In addition… China is looking to build a new Heavy Lift helicopter. AC 313 - http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ainalerts/2012-01-05/china-certifies-avics-heavy-lift-ac313-helo

Also the Kmax is pretty neat, especially the drone feature even though the drone part wouldn’t be necessary since we have AI pilots…

The Eurocopter HTH program comes to mind as well. http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=125238&d=1276160098 (Notice the "Strider" coming out the back.)

The Sikorsky X2HS would be neat too but it's awfully big. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll31/DemonLordRazgriz/3View.jpg

Edited May 12, 2014 by Squirrel0311

[samb 15]

Ok, here is my take on Helicopters DLC- BiS has already decided on what helicopters are going to be included, or at least they already thought it through. They didn't mention they're going future as far as I understand official news (yeah, I get that campaign is set in future). I hope for UH-60 (any version will do, but I personally love steam gauges over CTD). But I admit I am biased- that Ghosthawk and all that sci-fi stuff is an immersion killer for me. It looks more like a Metal Gear, or something than old good ArmA that put You into a battlefield You could see in the TV news...

[AveryTheKitty 2626]

Where did you guys hear about the CH-360?

Ok, here is my take on Helicopters DLC- BiS has already decided on what helicopters are going to be included, or at least they already thought it through. They didn't mention they're going future as far as I understand official news (yeah, I get that campaign is set in future). I hope for UH-60 (any version will do, but I personally love steam gauges over CTD). But I admit I am biased- that Ghosthawk and all that sci-fi stuff is an immersion killer for me. It looks more like a Metal Gear, or something than old good ArmA that put You into a battlefield You could see in the TV news...

It gives me inspiration, and all this new stuff looks awesome. I love the look of the Ghosthawk, Blackfoot, even Kaijman!

Edited May 12, 2014 by Nightmare515

[CaptainAzimuth 714]

Ok, here is my take on Helicopters DLC- BiS has already decided on what helicopters are going to be included, or at least they already thought it through. They didn't mention they're going future as far as I understand official news (yeah, I get that campaign is set in future). I hope for UH-60 (any version will do, but I personally love steam gauges over CTD). But I admit I am biased- that Ghosthawk and all that sci-fi stuff is an immersion killer for me. It looks more like a Metal Gear, or something than old good ArmA that put You into a battlefield You could see in the TV news...

So, that would mean this thread goes from suggestions to speculation on which HELO's will be used than. What a twist of events. =P

[Chairborne 2594]

I hope BIS listens to all the fans complaining about the Sci-fi scenario and go back to real world assets.

[kremator 1065]

I hope BIS makes MORE future tech. We already have Arma2 if you like 'old world' tech. I hate to say it but CoD Advanced Warfare puts what we have to shame - helicopters included.

[[evo] dan 79]

I hope BIS makes MORE future tech. We already have Arma2 if you like 'old world' tech. I hate to say it but CoD Advanced Warfare puts what we have to shame - helicopters included.

I don't really want the "future" tech, but I don't want the same assets we had in A2, I think assets just recently coming in service would be best (and quite refreshing), such as the Lakota, NH90 etc

[Chairborne 2594]

I hope BIS makes MORE future tech. We already have Arma2 if you like 'old world' tech. I hate to say it but CoD Advanced Warfare puts what we have to shame - helicopters included.

I don't really think CoD is anywhere near becoming Arma's challenger, as they are totally different genres, and honestly the further we are from CoD the happier i am. :D

[CaptainAzimuth 714]

I don't really think CoD is anywhere near becoming Arma's challenger, as they are totally different genres, and honestly the further we are from CoD the happier i am. :D

What's CoD, oh wait, its not important in this thread. Leave it out. Ok, The NH-90, im kind of broken between NATO and AAF, though, I honestly see NATO using it... But it would look better on the AAF.

[samb 15]

I hope BIS makes MORE future tech. We already have Arma2 if you like 'old world' tech.

Let's make it CoD- arcade FPS set on small maps- go play Arma2 if You want open battlefield sim!

I hate to say it but CoD Advanced Warfare puts what we have to shame - helicopters included.

I don't play CoD, but do they even have drivable vehicles? Anyways You are welcome to move back to CoD at any time Sir!

[Maio 293]

^^ That's the working title of a book I am writing on the topic of thread derailing. I'll feature you in my book, but first you will have to get back on topic and stay there for at least 10 years.

Fair deal? Great! let's make literary history!

Edited May 14, 2014 by Maio

[EricJ 759]

Ok, here is my take on Helicopters DLC- BiS has already decided on what helicopters are going to be included, or at least they already thought it through. They didn't mention they're going future as far as I understand official news (yeah, I get that campaign is set in future). I hope for UH-60 (any version will do, but I personally love steam gauges over CTD). But I admit I am biased- that Ghosthawk and all that sci-fi stuff is an immersion killer for me. It looks more like a Metal Gear, or something than old good ArmA that put You into a battlefield You could see in the TV news...

Yeah but the Ghost Hawk is based off of the speculative design of the "Stealth Hawk" that crashed in Abbottobad a few years ago, so it's not "Metal Gear" at all, based on a real design.

http://theaviationist.com/category/stealth-black-hawk/

[Chairborne 2594]

It's based solely on concept art made by a mister nobody who has never seen a so-called stealth hawk in his life.

I don't exactly call that a real design, nor real evidence of how the helicopter looks like and given all the ambiguous details we have and all the Seals misteriously dying like flies soon after the raid, that might just be a huge faux.

Stealth hawk aside, having contemporary equipment makes this game just more believable and immersive, and as you can see from the community made content a large majority of the players don't want space-age tech.

I hope BIS listens to them and goes back to contemporary models.

On the news flash released today by BIS they stated clearly they are working on "heavy transport helicopters" anyway, now they got me curious. :D

http://dev.arma3.com/sitrep-00056

[samb 15]

Yeah but the Ghost Hawk is based off of the speculative design of the "Stealth Hawk" that crashed in Abbottobad a few years ago, so it's not "Metal Gear" at all, based on a real design./[/url]

I just googled "Metal Gear Solid helicopter" and I ended up seeing much more realistic pictures than I can see in Arma at the moment. I love BiS for what they've been doing for all this years and I kept supporting them by buying all their OFP or ArmA related products so far (even if I don't play all of them), but I feel like we have to express our feelings about how we- customers find their products fit our needs. If we don't we might see "Arma 4: 2200 galactic marines". I am honestly happy there are people enjoying design choices developers took with Arma 3, but the core community is more interested in seeing realistic setting. Why release gear that is going to be used 10 years from now if community WILL make appropate mods as soon as we see that technology entering real battlefield. As EricJ mentioned- just browse usermade content; it is a good way to see what community wants. Like I said- hope You are enjoying Arma3, I am just looking for means for community to make mods to make Arma more appealing to us. Take care!

Edited May 13, 2014 by SamB

[chortles 263]

So, that would mean this thread goes from suggestions to speculation on which HELO's will be used than. What a twist of events. =P

The latest SITREP did narrow it down somewhat by repeating "the new heavy transport helicopters" (the Roadmap devblog revealed their type), so they're either the only type in the DLC or the only type that DnA chose to 'hard confirm'.

@ SamB: ... so I guess you didn't hear that "Arma 4: 2200 Galactic Marines" was essentially what BI chose to do after OA, huh? Or that BI first wanted to do a Wild West RPG instead of a sequel to OFP: CWC/Arma: CWA? ;)