Ukraine General

[spooky lynx 73]

so politicians in TV say A, but situation is B 

I don't know any other situation when country-agressor's banks give loans to the ventures in country-victim. Moreover I don't know any case when a country-agressor returned hundreds of tanks, APCs, trucks and other military hardware after start of agression (I say about all those stuff returned from Crimea). It's just absurd.

[vilas 477]

http://niezalezna.pl/73671-byly-oficer-fsb-ujawnia-rosja-zaangazowana-w-rozruchy-w-londynie-ataki-w-paryzu-isis

in Ukrainian TV, ex Russian FSB officer claims that Russia stands behind some islamic riots, terror acts to gain in western eyes , i do not comment it, just copy paste what he claims in Ukrainian TV

[spooky lynx 73]

Ukrainian TV? Oh that jokers who told about Russia isong tactical nukes against UA army near Lugansk and shut and offend people who ask inconvinient questions while being on air?

[oxmox 73]

Biden urges Russia to fulfil Ukraine peace deal, return Crimea (yahoo/AFP; Dec. 7)

US Vice President Joe Biden said Monday that Washington remained fully determined to see Russia

adhere to a shaky Ukrainian peace agreement and hand back Crimea to Kiev.

 

The war-scarred nation now fears slipping off the global radar due to recent international efforts to enlist Russia in a joint fight against the Islamic State (IS) group in Syria and Iraq.

 

But Biden brought a message of reassurance.

"The US stands firmly with the people of Ukraine in the face of continued, I emphasise, continued aggression from Russia and Russian-backed separatists," he told Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.

 

"The invasion by Russia of Crimea will not be accepted by us or by the international community. This attempted annexation is contrary to international law, is wrong, and will not be accepted in any circumstance," he said.

 

...the situation changed when Russia began launching ferocious air strikes against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's foes on September 30.

Washington has accused Putin of trying to prop up Assad by targeting Syria's Western-backed rebels instead of extremist groups.

 

 

- The 'cancer' of corruption -

 

Biden also spoke out on the issue of graft in a country of 40 million where morale is sagging due to Poroshenko's seeming inability

to tackle the corruption that has plagued Ukraine for much of its recent history.

 

->Poroshenko's prosecutor general has been accused of blocking investigations and hiring workers who have since been detained with huge stashes of gold and cash in their flats.

 

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-must-fulfil-ukraine-peace-deal-hand-back-153808711.html

[dontknowhow 33]

Ukrainian TV? Oh that jokers who told about Russia isong tactical nukes against UA army near Lugansk and shut and offend people who ask inconvinient questions while being on air?

For once I agree with you

 

"The US stands firmly with the people of Ukraine in the face of continued, I emphasise, continued aggression from Russia and Russian-backed separatists,"

I'm sure the Russians are shitting in their pants

[spooky lynx 73]

It's very naive to suppose that a person who got all his wealth thanks to corruption will struggle it. Oligarchs from post-Soviet countries and corruption are synonyms.

[dimon 32]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pXTwTIlMs

[oxmox 73]

wtf....

 

BBC - Dec. 11

 

[spooky lynx 73]

wtf....

 

BBC - Dec. 11

I suppose you don't know but such fights are common things in Rada.

[dontknowhow 33]

I suppose you don't know but such fights are common things in Rada.

indeed:

 

 

 

First one is awesome.

[d_lukin 16]

wtf....

 

BBC - Dec. 11

 

 

just an ordinary day in the Ukrainian parliament  :)

 

 

(2010)

[ProfTournesol 956]

What a pathetic show...

[Maxzy 12]

Whoop de friggin' doo. This "pathetic show" is an everyday reality for the last decade, and especially last two years. You didn't know that? Well, good morning. 

[ProfTournesol 956]

Whoop de friggin' doo. This "pathetic show" is an everyday reality for the last decade, and especially last two years. You didn't know that? Well, good morning.

Well, Putin's regim is a pathetic show too.

[vilas 477]

does it mean they believe in what they say 

[dontknowhow 33]

Well, Putin's regim is a pathetic show too.

honestly, this is too much, even for Putin

[ProfTournesol 956]

honestly, this is too much, even for Putin

Well, pathetic isn't appropriate. Frightening, dismaying.

[dontknowhow 33]

Well, pathetic isn't appropriate.

It is, it is :D

 

My "this" was referred to those videos, or more in general the situation in in Ukraine. I don't think the mess in Ukraine (meaning generic mess, unrelated to the situation in the east) is comparable to Russia.

[spooky lynx 73]

Some more stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebPB6sZ9Rc0

[d_lukin 16]

Some more stuff.

youtube.com/watch?v=ebPB6sZ9Rc0

 

Explain: At a meeting of the National Council of Ukrainian reforms between Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and the governor of Odessa region Mikhail Saakashvili started the dispute. President Petr Poroshenko could not reassure participants altercation and was forced to adjourn the meeting.

 

[Maxzy 12]

War in Donbass: Circles of hell documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dufxfFQmMHQ

[oxmox 73]

New French Documentary aired on TV - 2016

Ukraine: Masks of Revolution

 

Paul Moreira  is a French journalist and documentary filmmaker. He is based in Paris, France. He has directed several investigative documentaries in conflict zones, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Burma, Israel, Democratic Republic of Congo and Somalia. Paul Moreira has contributed to the emergence of investigative journalism on French television.

The investigations of his team collected several prestigious French awards.

 

Ukraine, masks of the revolution

Without them, there would have been no Ukrainian revolution.

In February 2014, paramilitary groups fought against the police in the streets of Kyev and ousted President Yanukovych. They settled a new government.

According to western media, they were the revolution heroes. They fought on the right side.

But they are actually extreme-right militias. And they are now heavily armed.

 

The Right Sector, Azov or Svoboda created parallel irregular forces that easily go out of control. In Odessa, in May 2014, they were responsible for a mass killing without facing any charges. 45 people burnt to death. A massacre that didn’t get much attention.

How come western democracies haven’t raised their voice in protest?

Most likely because these Ukrainian nationalist militias actually played a significant role in a much larger scale war. The Ukrainian revolution was strongly supported by the US diplomacy.

In the new cold war that opposes Russia to the USA, Ukraine is a decisive pawn. A tactical pawn to contain Putin’s ambitions.

“Ukraine, masks of the revolution†by Paul Moreira sheds light on this blind corner.

 

 

in french with english subtitles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_6zoNweKII

 

 

with german subtitles

http://www.zippcast.com/video/a8fefda6b29a77112ff

[ProfTournesol 956]

New French Documentary aired on TV - 2016

Ukraine: Masks of Revolution

 

Paul Moreira  is a French journalist and documentary filmmaker. He is based in Paris, France. He has directed several investigative documentaries in conflict zones, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Burma, Israel, Democratic Republic of Congo and Somalia. Paul Moreira has contributed to the emergence of investigative journalism on French television.

The investigations of his team collected several prestigious French awards.

 

Ukraine, masks of the revolution

Without them, there would have been no Ukrainian revolution.

In February 2014, paramilitary groups fought against the police in the streets of Kyev and ousted President Yanukovych. They settled a new government.

According to western media, they were the revolution heroes. They fought on the right side.

But they are actually extreme-right militias. And they are now heavily armed.

 

The Right Sector, Azov or Svoboda created parallel irregular forces that easily go out of control. In Odessa, in May 2014, they were responsible for a mass killing without facing any charges. 45 people burnt to death. A massacre that didn’t get much attention.

How come western democracies haven’t raised their voice in protest?

Most likely because these Ukrainian nationalist militias actually played a significant role in a much larger scale war. The Ukrainian revolution was strongly supported by the US diplomacy.

In the new cold war that opposes Russia to the USA, Ukraine is a decisive pawn. A tactical pawn to contain Putin’s ambitions.

“Ukraine, masks of the revolution†by Paul Moreira sheds light on this blind corner.

 

Yup, i've watched it, quite concerning that so many neo nazis are free to do what they want, and how weak the central power is.

 

Meanwhile, in the East :

 

(Vice News) Paranoia and Purges: The Dark and Dirty Battle for Power in Rebel-Held Ukraine

[negah 26]

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/content/ukraine-politics/in-new-euromaidan-documentary-protester-says-he-shot-and-killed-two-police-officers-408499.html

 

 

 

Ivan Bubenchyk, a Maidan protester from Lviv in western Ukraine, says he shot dead two Berkut special riot police commanders on Feb. 20, 2014. Bubenchyk makes the claim in a documentary film called “Brantsi†(Captives) from director Volodymyr Tyhyi, which is to be screened in cinemas around Ukraine from Feb. 25.

 

 

https://birdinflight.com/world/maidan-activist-ivan-bubenchyk-it-s-true-i-shot-them-in-the-back-of-the-head.html

 

 

 

On February 20, 2014, the day when the protesters were shot on Instytutska street, the first people who died were not Maidan activists, but Berkut special force police officers. They were shot by Ivan Bubenchyk from Lviv.  

 

 

I know it does kinda look like the whole country there has gone mad, but why would someone claim he had deliberately killed several police officers if he didnt do that?

If thats true, that should solve the question of "who shot first" on maidan.

[spooky lynx 73]

 

 

If thats true, that should solve the question of "who shot first" on maidan.

I don't know about western Europe, but here the facts that first shots were made from hotel held by Svoboda party folks and shortly after the fall of Yanuk all trees that stood on the street where protesters were killed by shooters (that trees held some bullets and their traces) were cut are well known for more than a year already. Oh and let's remember video showing mr. Pashinsky, one of maidan leaders caught with sniper rifle in his car leaving the place and some masked folks with gun cases leaving the hotel near maidan together with some nationalist activists.