d_lukin 16 Posted July 7, 2015 Which is obviously not the one of this propaganda video you posted: Why do you call this propaganda video, and even Russian? It vidio filmed in Kiev, Kiev resident, and here Russia?.. Nevermind It's just a really extraordinarily, black man in US uniform patrol Kiev.. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted July 7, 2015 It's just a really extraordinarily, black man in US uniform patrol Kiev.. :) and wearing sneakers, just a small detail... Funny try, but I think this video was filmed by Russians in Russia to lampoon changes that are going in the law enforcement in Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted July 7, 2015 Why do you call this propaganda video, and even Russian?It vidio filmed in Kiev, Kiev resident, and here Russia?.. Nevermind It's just a really extraordinarily, black man in US uniform patrol Kiev.. :) :confused: :eek: :cool: :ok: :clap: :292: FPDR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oxmox 73 Posted July 8, 2015 Guys...jesus :rolleyes: Maybe less from just imaginations and pure "reflexes" In less than 60 seconds you can find out that this insignificant video: * is a fun video if you actually read the title and the description: "Sgt. Jones patrolling" + "Joking about the new UA police uniform that for some reason somehow resembles some of the US police uniforms" * it was recorded in Kiev, its the Red University Building of the Taras Shevchenko National University of Kiev (just google search Kiev red building) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted July 8, 2015 * is a fun video if you actually read the title and the description: "Sgt. Jones patrolling" + "Joking about the new UA police uniform that for some reason somehow resembles some of the US police uniforms" Read the comments, also check the other videos uploaded by the author and you'll see that it's not "a joke", but there was an agenda behind. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Jimmy 272 Posted July 8, 2015 Read the comments, also check the other videos uploaded by the author and you'll see that it's not "a joke", but there was an agenda behind. ;) You can read more about the author here http://kazzuraengsubs.tumblr.com/ It's just opinion against Ukraine going too much behind the US and same time a joke about the new uniforms and police academy. There are couple same type of videos where the same music is played about the new Kiev police academy so it really doesn't matter if that exact video is real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxzy 12 Posted July 8, 2015 There are no nazis and fascists in ukraine: Burial of former nazi in Lviv region Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) There are no nazis and fascists in ukraine:Burial of former nazi in Lviv region And ? That's why Putin is leading a crusade in Ukraine ? Edited July 8, 2015 by ProfTournesol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted July 8, 2015 There are no nazis and fascists in ukraine:Burial of former nazi in Lviv region Neither in Russia, were the Kremlin funds Neo-Nazi meetings: (EU Observer) European neo-Nazis hold meeting in Russia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_lukin 16 Posted July 8, 2015 :confused: :eek: :cool: :ok: :clap: :292: FPDR You feel bad? Read the comments, also check the other videos uploaded by the author and you'll see that it's not "a joke", but there was an agenda behind. I read comments. There has not been refuted. Or, you have drawn conclusions on Sneakers? Author makes subtitles to video from NVR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sudayev 27 Posted July 8, 2015 There are no nazis and fascists in ukraine:Burial of former nazi in Lviv region Not the first, not the last Ukrainian nazist collaborator openly celebrated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted July 9, 2015 Compare the uniform with the Ukrainian one (pic from RT):http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/42/55/f0/00/ukraine-1.si.jpg Those ones are sexiest :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted July 10, 2015 How can someone driving a Prius be a bad person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted July 10, 2015 who produced those uniforms ? who get contract ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) So there was apparently some kind of shootout between Right Sector and the Mafia, which has ties to the deputy Mikhail Lanyo in Mukachevo. The shootout happened at a sport center owned by Lanyo. RS got into the confrontation on their own behalf, without the approval of the government, meaning it was an illegal move. 2 members of RS died and 4 were wounded. Right Sector had apparently also patrolled the region before, removing illegal casinos and confiscating contraband (Which they possibly cant do because they are not the police?). So basically there is now preparations for a standoff between RS and the government. The locals seem to be on the side of RS. Well at least thats what I got out of it all. At the moment everything is pretty confusing, so I wonder where this is going. http://youtu.be/EeCCG-PMFPU http://youtu.be/Ce9TI3hp_R4 Special Police on the way to Mukachevo The government is still quiet and does not directly blame the incident on right sector. There is only talk about "armed gangs". Edited July 12, 2015 by beastcat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted July 12, 2015 Ukraine was destructed from inside by corruption and oligarchs, biggest problem of Ukraine (and not only) is that only right wing extreme is honest and not corrupted, because all mainstream parties seems the be the same, i read article that people in Ukraine already have enough of current government which promisses aren't fulfiled , probably as in Poland, than in Ukraine, every politician goes before election with promisses of ending corruption , and when he wins election , he becomes more corrupted than previous ones, corruption can destroy any country and lead to extremism, because in most corrupted countries only extremists believe in anything other than possibility to receive bribes, shame, sad, but thats the way it is , it seems , thats why all major powers see RS as enemy because all major parties participate in oligarchy and corruption, Ukraine is not even between hammer and anvil, but between 2 hammers , internal, external, but lets face true, noone in west want corruption to end, cause only corruption guarantees western corporations big role in Ukraine, post commie countries are modern colonies for west, thats why such big corruption level is not meeting any foreign reactions, because those corrupted politicians guarantee contracts, that otherwise would go to national industry + different taxing policy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted July 13, 2015 Kids with guns at the "military-patriotic camp" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1356,title,Petro-Poroszenko-trzeba-rozbroic-nielegalne-ugrupowania,wid,17704934,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=115375 Petro Poroshenko says to disarm non-official forces, lol, especially that people desert and do not want to participate in fight, some agree with Eastern Ukrainians, and only right-wing fighters fight, now he tells disarm them , so far they were only ones who fought voluntary, usual Ukrainians do not want to fight, and this all happened when Right Sector invaded business which belongs to oligarch accused of being mafia, rather than fight with mafia and oligarchy (Maidan was aiming against corruption and oligarchy) now Ukrainian government wants to fight with those who are only who fight voluntary for Ukraine + who want to destroy mafia , Right Sector claims they want to clear Ukraine from mafia really bad situation in Ukraine, where one mafia replaces other mafia, one oligarch replaces other oligarch but when other third party wants to get inside circle than oligarch defend oligarch - dog does not eat dog, usual people suffer the same or even more, and only ones who want to care about this country interest are guys who are close to neo-nazis, indeed hard situation, and the most "funny" and irony is that few years before those guys from RS claimed Poles their biggest enemy, situation like in Greece - unsolvable, coin with two "bad" sides of coin, from one side of coin - mafia, oligarchy, state structure like in middle ages (nobles, dukes, counts) from other side neo-nazis or Russia , from one side vision to destroy national industry , corrupted privatisation, people becoming cheap labor once Ukraine would meet EU and big part of society who oppose it (Eastern Ukraine who see EU as rotten), from other side Putin, with all his "features", unsolvable so far , because noone in the west really wish to destroy oligarchy of Ukraine, west rather choose which oligarch to make business with, it rather rhetorical question - is there anyone who wants Ukraine to be clear from oligarchy and mafia among "elites" of west ? not among usual people who feels sorry to Ukrainians from this forum, but from those who rule our countries, business, banks, corporations, only mafia guarantee resources cheap :/ like cheap trash (municipal waste) in some regions of Italy where mafia had lowest prices cause they were throwing waste to ground without utilisation in post commie countries (which people from west might not understand) far right is rather last resort guarantee to take care about local population business, cause mainstream coming from corrupted commies or kids of those commies of corrupted opposition rather care about "good relations" with small group of very rich businesmen, and without far-right post-commie countries end as neo-colonies for few corporations and banks, because in Ukraine even their president do not seem to fight with oligarchy and mafia at all, moreover he was one of the richest oligarchs in Ukraine himself , Timoshenko who tried to led Maidan was also in mafia with criminal charges, Edited July 13, 2015 by vilas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oxmox 73 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Poroshenko faces new security crisis in western Ukraine (AFP) President Petro Poroshenko confronted a fresh crisis Monday as a deadly standoff between interior ministry units and armed Ukrainian ultranationalists entered a third day in a western enclave near Hungary. The EU-backed leader convened his "military cabinet" of top generals to try and diffuse tensions between two forces vital to his bid to stamp out a separatist insurgency 1,000 kilometres (more than 600 miles) away in eastern Ukraine. The Pravy Sektor (Right Sector) nationalists played a small but instrumental role in three months of pro-European protests that eventually toppled the Kremlin-backed leadership in February 2014. They then formed the heart of some of the best-equipped -- and allegedly most ruthless -- units to wage war against pro-Russian militias that overran parts of Ukraine's eastern industrial heartland in the wake of the Kiev revolution. But mistrust between volunteer units and Ukraine's armed forces has been building as Poroshenko tries to follow through on a February peace deal whose terms -- including partial self-rule for the insurgents -- are anathema to the nationalists. Pravy Sektor members also cast themselves as Robin Hood figures who defend the public against corruption that has ravaged Ukraine's political establishment and police since the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991. The weekend battles were sparked by Pravy Sektor's self-proclaimed bid to prevent Hungary and Slovakia from being flooded with any more contraband cigarettes that have already enriched local politicians and their security overlords. The gun battle erupted in a rural region split from the rest of Ukraine by the Carpathian Mountains and has ancient cultural ties to Hungary. The Zakarpattia (Trans-Carpathian) province has often wound up siding with pro-Russian political parties because many locals also mistrust the Ukrainian nationalists. About half of the region's residents also carry Hungarian passports and have few political links to either Moscow or Kiev. The president opened Monday's security meeting by accusing "the Zakarpattia smugglers of throwing down a challenge to all of Ukraine." But he also blamed Pravy Sektor -- whom he called "true patriots" -- of allowing "banal criminal gangs" enter its ranks. A senior Ukrainian security service source said most in the government believed Pravy Sektor was far less innocent than it claimed. Pravy Sektor "itself is trying to win a piece of the contraband business," the security source said. "The problem for Ukraine is that there are a lot of armed people who view themselves as heroes and try to establish their brand of order through force," said the source. "Something like this was bound to happen -- and it did." http://news.yahoo.com/poroshenko-faces-security-crisis-western-ukraine-153613671.html Right Sector gunmen take 6-year old boy hostage in western Ukraine in standoff with police Two gunmen from Ukraine's nationalist Right Sector militia on Monday briefly took a 6-year-old boy hostage in western Ukraine as a standoff between the gunmen and police entered its third day. Right Sector said its members were trying to confront policemen who they said were involved in a major smuggling business in the region. Mukacheve is not far from the border with Poland, Hungary and Slovakia, and local officials have long faced accusations of setting up and controlling the smuggling of contraband. http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/07/13/right-sector-gunmen-take-boy-hostage-in-western-ukraine Edited July 14, 2015 by oxmox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beastcat 14 Posted July 14, 2015 So these guys are on the side of Lanyo, together with the police. Kinda shows the level of corruption. And I thought Poroshenko wanted to disarm illegal armed gangs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aleksadragutin 9 Posted July 14, 2015 Looks like the democratic revolution fixed everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted July 14, 2015 I dare say they didn't take the revolution far enough. They should have send all politicians home instead of allowing the corrupt and frankly incompetent political elite back into positions of power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted July 14, 2015 revolution was against corruption, while one corrupted oligarchs replaced previous corrupted oligarch after previous corrupted oligarch being replaced ( Timoshenko > Yanuk > current oligarchs) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted July 14, 2015 sadly any mess benefits <insert random superpower or aspiring one>, easier to dissolve and take over ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted July 15, 2015 http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1356,title,Ukraina-po-strzelaninie-w-Mukaczewie-somalizacja-czy-przesilenie,wid,17708241,wiadomosc.html mainstream journalists speculate that another region may bount in Ukraine cause people have enough of corruption and Right Sector is stronger and Ukrainian state just focus on fight with far-right , not with reasons why far-right has support because local criminal gangs has support from government , Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
