Ofp is dead?

suchey · August 20, 2001

In case anyone missed it, Suma stated in another thread that the Bis testing server is no longer online because the 1.75 client is no longer compatable...so...looks like we will be looking at both a server and client side patch. HEY! Theres a spark of life! Its not much in the way of info, but at least its some!

Abrams · May 10, 2002

Yes OFP is some sort of boring BUT

Resistance is gonna live:)

I play Resistance in single and Internet and OFP is just for Internet

I think that after Resistance it will be OFP 2 and all clans are gonna move to OFP 2

and BF1942 I don`t like because it not a simulation of a real war.

Look forward

Blake · July 19, 2001

In my eyes, BF 1942 is a bit of a dissapointment. Taken together, it's Half-Life mod Day of Defeat with vehicles and less realistic weapons. Maps don't feel much bigger either.

It's a good game but far from being OFP slayer.

I still keep playing with my squad and ain't bored a bit and never been

Satchel · July 10, 2001

I have been absent for a while, so i donÂ´t know much about OFPÂ´s current multiplayer popularity, however for all those liking games with a straight military approach in a roughly believable manner, OFP should be still a game of choice if you throw everything into a pot, despite all bugs and things that do need considerable improvement.

And so OFP is for me, after playing relatively polished games like Americas Army, Battlefield 1942 and Delta Force:Blackhawk Down, i came to the conclusion that they are all different from OFP, and although theyÂ´re fun to play and looking great on the visual side, they cannot "replace" it.

All these games listed are nice in one or the other way, however, as OFP they lack certain areas; Americas Army is skirmish in a sandbox concentrating on a small unit theme (for now), Battlefield 1942 has somewhat jerky robot-like animations (way more so than OFP robots) and is situated more on the action side of things, Delta Force:Blackhawk Down features bunnyhopping, medipack collecting and jerky animations the like.

Now all these games listed are primary trimmed towards multiplayer, which leaves the single player component probably a bit behind of what OFP features with itÂ´s AI, large islands and terrain features, large scale combined arms battles and powerfull mission editor.

However, no question OFP is aging and still has major issues, needing a "marshall plan" from ground up that goes beyond the improvements that shipped with Resistance. Whether that be in form of OFP2 (Independance lost ?), or in a major update with rewritten physics- (although bouncing vehicles and sliding tanks already have "cult" status), graphics- and sound engine.

P.S.:The Karma physics engine would surely look good in OFP .

HellToupee · September 7, 2001

Yea but kama physics would surely be very hard on your computer, ofp already has very high specs for a game9even ut2003 i think is lower) even top of the line comps cant run it full view distance and full gfx, so i wouldnt expect super gfx advances in any ofp2 they would look much the same if it came out around now but your looking at years away. Things like adding more detail to cities like proper footpaths and stuff etc would make it look soo much better.

Also ofps multiplayer has potential far greater than any other game Y because of its mission maker, u can have so many gametypes yet no big mods to dl, its net code 1.75 seems very good u can play missions with 20ppl and lotas ai if the servers fast enuff and its playable, in a game like bf1942 on adsl with about 32ppl and 100ping it starts to lag, i can play ofp 300ping and it feels less laggy. But what all those mp games have in common is JIP and easyness to play, ofp isnt easy so it would appeal to the sim fans but what turns them away is no JIP so they go play il2sturmovik online. I think we need JIP so we can play more than jus little 30min c&hs all the time and have only one populted server.

Satchel · July 10, 2001

I donÂ´t know if Karma would drag down performance considerably, a code that is complex, but well and efficiantly written might be in the end faster than a code not as efficiantly- think about OFPÂ´s initial netcode.

Seeing the engine in action (UT2K3) and in some demos you can download from the developers HP: http://www.mathengine.com , all i can say is outstanding!

Even if it would have a minor impact on performance, i would be glady sacrifying it if no longer falling through building walls, donÂ´t have skiing tracked vehicles anymore, bouncing objects and vehicles of all sorts, submergeable helicopters and the like.

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HellToupee · September 7, 2001

you would think with all that predicting and stuff it would tax the cpu a bit, i dont fall thru floors in most buildings in ofp there ok, but adding kama probly isnt a simple process u would have to change quite a bit ild say and would be a huge update to dl probly i havnt really seen it work much in ut2003 ill have to look harder.