A-10C for Arma 3

[CyclonicTuna 87]

Doesn't seem fair to most, perhaps two different versions or it is a more feasible option.. Catering to one specific player preference base when the larger majority is casual isn't that fair, ARMA is about options :)

Exactly, Arma is about options. So why would Peral waste his time on dumbing the A10 down when his goal is to make it as realistic as possible. Your comment is a double edged sword. Catering to a specific player prefrence is just what you need to do. So that way, other people get challanged to try something else, and you don't end up with a whole bunch of addons that do a lot of things mediocre but nothing well.

Besides, you don't have to fly planes, you don't have to use this specific addon. If you want the A10 in Arma 3 without all the incredible options, just port it over from Arma 2. Get AllInArma, or ask someone to port it over for you. But asking someone to hold back on developing an intense addon, because you don't want to take the time to learn how to use it, is just wrong.

Because that's bascially what your're saying. You're saying: "Hey Peral, really like the work that you're doing. But I don't want to invest time into learning how to use it. So could you just make it a little bit easier for me?". You're like a vegitarian that wants to go to an authentic Spanish sausage market, but doesn't want to be confronted with meat all the time, so you ask the vendors to make a little corner where you can get vegitarian sausage, something they had never planned, and maybe don't even want to do.

If you don't want to eat or smell meat, go to a vegitarian place.

I have nothing against vegitarians by the way...

Edited December 19, 2013 by CyclonicTuna

[tonic-_- 53]

Exactly, Arma is about options. So why would Peral waste his time on dumbing the A10 down when his goal is to make it as realistic as possible. Your comment is a double edged sword. Catering to a specific player prefrence is just what you need to do. So that way, other people get challanged to try something else, and you don't end up with a whole bunch of addons that do a lot of things mediocre but nothing well.

Besides, you don't have to fly planes, you don't have to use this specific addon. If you want the A10 in Arma 3 without all the incredible options, just port it over from Arma 2. Get AllInArma, or ask someone to port it over for you. But asking someone to hold back on developing an intense addon, because you don't want to take the time to learn how to use it, is just wrong.

Because that's bascially what your're saying. You're saying: "Hey Peral, really like the work that you're doing. But I don't want to invest time into learning how to use it. So could you just make it a little bit easier for me?". You're like a vegitarian that wants to go to an authentic Spanish sausage market, but doesn't want to be confronted with meat all the time, so you ask the vendors to make a little corner where you can get vegitarian sausage, something they had never planned, and maybe don't even want to do.

If you don't want to eat or smell meat, go to a vegitarian place.

I have nothing against vegitarians by the way...

Eh, it was only a option suggestion, no need to get your panties in a wad, I don't care to much either way. I've flown DCS A-10C with a Keyboard so it's meh at this point. A realistic start-up plane and casual start-up plane can easily be done with a single addon.

[CyclonicTuna 87]

Eh, it was only a option suggestion, no need to get your panties in a wad, I don't care to much either way. I've flown DCS A-10C with a Keyboard so it's meh at this point. A realistic start-up plane and casual start-up plane can easily be done with a single addon.

I doubt that. Either way that's not the point wether its done easily or not. The point is someone asking for Peral to spend more of his free time on something, because that particular person doesn't want to spend their time to figure out some things that really arn't that complicated.

A community is created by giving and sharing, not by taking and selflesness. I feel that is someone takes time out of their lives to make something awesome for you, you are obligated to spend some of your own time to figure out how to properly use it. If you had to pay or give something else in return its a whole other story.

But saying it "doesn't seem fair", no... Asking Peral for a step by step readme, yes.

[PuFu 4600]

I doubt that. Either way that's not the point wether its done easily or not. The point is someone asking for Peral to spend more of his free time on something, because that particular person doesn't want to spend their time to figure out some things that really arn't that complicated.

A community is created by giving and sharing, not by taking and selflesness. I feel that is someone takes time out of their lives to make something awesome for you, you are obligated to spend some of your own time to figure out how to properly use it. If you had to pay or give something else in return its a whole other story.

But saying it "doesn't seem fair", no... Asking Peral for a step by step readme, yes.

why don't you let the author answer and you feel it is ok for you to speak for him?

[CyclonicTuna 87]

why don't you let the author answer and you feel it is ok for you to speak for him?

Why, I can't start a discusson on a forum? If Peral has something to say he can say it, there's nothing stopping him. How am I speaking for him? I'm just voicing my opinion.

Edited December 19, 2013 by CyclonicTuna

[peral 268]

Stiltman has a great A-10A he's releasing, You can aways fly that if you don't want to use my mod.

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?168508-(STI)-A-10-for-ARMA-3

The A-10C is close to testing for first release, But I need help with a new weapons system (CCIP and CCRP) first before I can release it. If you are good at scripting and would like to help me. plz send me a PM.

Edited December 19, 2013 by Peral

[CyclonicTuna 87]

The A-10C is close to testing for first release, But I need help with a new weapons system (CCIP and CCRP) first before I can release it. If you are good at scripting and would like to help me. plz send me a PM.

This may be a long shot but... Sickboy? Or perhaps he himself knows someone who could help you with that. In the last stable A.C.E update, they implemented a CCIP and CCRP for all aircraft I believe.

[peral 268]

This may be a long shot but... Sickboy? Or perhaps he himself knows someone who could help you with that. In the last stable A.C.E update, they implemented a CCIP and CCRP for all aircraft I believe.

I would love to use the ACE CCIP and CCRP but, Sickboy does not take PM's from this forum and I have PMed other ACE members over two weeks with no reply. I have also put a ticket in through the ACE site with no reply. So I am looking for help making a new system. This is one of important and last parts of my A-10C that needs to be done, and It has come to the point where this is holding the mod back without it.

[progamer 14]

Doesn't seem fair to most, perhaps two different versions or it is a more feasible option.. Catering to one specific player preference base when the larger majority is casual isn't that fair, ARMA is about options :)

I doubt the larger majority is causal in a game like Arma, it's not even a casual game in the first place. The time and resources should be spent on the one version, not two. :)

[nodunit 397]

Arma is about options yes but how is it fair to the author that they should be forced to cater to a demographic that they may not be targeting in the first place?

[noubernou 77]

I would love to use the ACE CCIP and CCRP but, Sickboy does not take PM's from this forum and I have PMed other ACE members over two weeks with no reply. I have also put a ticket in through the ACE site with no reply. So I am looking for help making a new system. This is one of important and last parts of my A-10C that needs to be done, and It has come to the point where this is holding the mod back without it.

Why would you ask Sickboy, I wrote it? :p

Do you have skype? If so add me and I can try and help sort you out. Forum name is skype name.

[scarecrow398 43]

Why would you ask Sickboy, I wrote it? :p

Do you have skype? If so add me and I can try and help sort you out. Forum name is skype name.

Now if only you actually checked your skype messages :rolleyes:

[ACPL Jon 68]

@CyclonicTuna - With such approach, ok, then why would You waste your time on ArmA when You can just launch DCS?

Go play DCS and stop acting like an ass.

What Tonic said. ArmA is about options. And it doesn't take zillion hours to strip one more editor entity out of all the extra stuff.

Also, I never said I'm not going to learn all the extra controls so stop putting that into my mouth. I just said it's nice to have an alternative, for when You don't feel like going "all realistic". I've already ported A2 stuff, but the tex are low-res for some reason and I have all the right in the world to make the simplest suggestion which will make the addon satisfy not only ME, but also a lot of other people - the addon will be more popular, which I guess many authors would like: so that there's more people who will appreciate their work. It's not the case of how "elite" YOU would like to feel.

So please stop being selfish.

PS: Peral, ok, I'll take it as a "no". I see at least one person knows how to do that without getting all... You know what. Cheers man.

Edited December 20, 2013 by JonPL

[stevos758 10]

Lay off people! Let the man create his MASTERPIECE!!!!!!

I can't wait for this mod! It is the mod I am most excited for!

[CyclonicTuna 87]

@CyclonicTuna - With such approach, ok, then why would You waste your time on ArmA when You can just launch DCS?

Go play DCS and stop acting like an ass.

What Tonic said. ArmA is about options. And it doesn't take zillion hours to strip one more editor entity out of all the extra stuff.

Also, I never said I'm not going to learn all the extra controls so stop putting that into my mouth. I just said it's nice to have an alternative, for when You don't feel like going "all realistic". I've already ported A2 stuff, but the tex are low-res for some reason and I have all the right in the world to make the simplest suggestion which will make the addon satisfy not only ME, but also a lot of other people - the addon will be more popular, which I guess many authors would like: so that there's more people who will appreciate their work. It's not the case of how "elite" YOU would like to feel.

So please stop being selfish.

PS: Peral, ok, I'll take it as a "no". I see at least one person knows how to do that without getting all... You know what.

Why am I acting like an ass? I never said you can't make suggestions, by all means make a ton more. I'm just staying that I think its a waste of time to suggest somthing on a subject that is totally irrelefant. That's what I was trying to make clear with the whole vegitarian on a meatmarket acronim.

And I'm not putting words in you're mouth, I'm just drawing a conclusion for me based on what you said because you didn't substantiate you're suggestion aside form "it would be nice to have". You're suggestion doesn't make sense, like Nodunit said, so you should substantiate it.

I couldn't thnk of anything besides that you don't want to spend time learning the controls, which once you have, really shouldn't impair you're flying experience, so yeah. If you don't substantiate, I guess I put words in you're mouth.

Then you come back by saying "it would make the addon more popular", but it won't because as long as you have acces to those features, people are gonna try them out. And if you try them out, you'll get used to them, and then you'll have a second A10, which no one is gonna use and you've wasted the time of the addon maker.

So no, its not about how "Elite" I wanna feel, its about what makes sense. I'm not being selfish, on the conterary, like I said in my previous post, by focussing on making a sharp knife, rather than a swiss army knife wich gets dull within a year, but also has a pen and a pair of siccors. You create something that will last longer, that the community will appreciate more and that's just overall better.

And if Peral disagrees with me, I would still wish him all the best because unlike you, he's actually the on making this for us in his free time.

Why don't I start up DCS? Why don't you start up HAWX?...

Edited December 20, 2013 by CyclonicTuna

[ACPL Jon 68]

Ok, I misread the last post, disregard this anyway.

PS: Tuna, You're very wrong if You think I have never done any creative work for the ArmA world.

Edited December 20, 2013 by JonPL
I've read something wrong

[[frl]myke 14]

Please take note that this is a do-not-feed-the-troll zone. It's up to Peral what he finally includes. Proposals are surely welcome but not matter of discussions. Thank you for your cooperation.

[rreznik 1]

Looks amazing!! Cant wait to try this one out!

[cychou 11]

Hi Peral, did you add targeting pod feature to guid laser guided weapons ?

i'm still exclusively playing Arma 2 ACE, and if it could be ported and added to the mod it would be amazing.

Edited December 20, 2013 by cychou

[peral 268]

Hi Peral, did you add targeting pod feature to guid laser guided weapons ?

i'm still exclusively playing Arma 2 ACE, and if it could be ported and added to the mod it would be amazing.

I have looked into a targeting pod feature like Mando Missile ArmA for Arma 2 by Mandoble, But I have not been able to get a hold of Mandoble. If anyone knows how to get a hold of him plz PM me.

[sgtsn1per 1]

Holy shit! aha this is amazing!!

If I could put my 2 cents in towards this addon.

When firing the gau-8, having smoke come past the cockpit really adds alot of immersion and realism (atleast to me it does)

And I found this video with some beautiful turbine engine sounds off the a-10 that could possibily be used to create more authentic sounds (flybys, taxiing etc)

Keep up the wicked work, cant wait to fly the hog again!

[phronk 898]

Just one little thing... shouldn't the GAU-8 be black? It looks white in the video and screenshots. :P

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/a10-thunderbolt-jet-aircraft-1048900.jpg

[spookygnu 563]

OMG! AMAAAAAAZING! Love the eject at the end. That GUA 8 sounds ten times better too!

[peral 268]

Just one little thing... shouldn't the GAU-8 be black? It looks white in the video and screenshots. :P

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/a10-thunderbolt-jet-aircraft-1048900.jpg

The GAU-8 is not white, i'm using a steel texture. There are two variance of the GAU-8 black and steel.

[Moon_chilD 200]

I'm sorry that I haven't got anything good to say but....GIVE IT TO ME...I love it! Hope its finished soon!