Err..What is Arma 3? [Dumb Question Alert]

[kapows 10]

Hello All,

So the other day it was late night and I was on youtoobs when I happened to come across someone playing Arma DayZ.

I sat through his 30 minute gameplay commentary as I had absolutely nothing better to do with my time whatsoever.

The game itself seemed like something I "could" get involved with or atleast give it a go. (Still had no clue what it was about.)

To be honest, the idea of being in an open world where I can shoot other live players (not cpu) would be a nice time killer.

So went on Steam today to check out Arma 2 and saw the whole new page for Arma 3.

Thing is, I still dont know much about this game. So its open world.....Are we in an open world with other live players??

Can I shoot these live players?

Can I log in and sabotage everyone?

Or is it all CPU people in-game (Boring)

What are you supposed to do? Will there be a side you can choose on this massive open world and kill the opposite side? (Kinda like MAG on PS3)

Wanna try out the Alpha but on the bench at the moment until i can understand more about this game!

Thanks guys. BTW - Good Voice on the Arma Intro video - Enjoyed listening to that.

Oh....Is there a massive problem with cheating in the game currently? (This totally puts me off)

Edited May 7, 2013 by kapows

[HorbeySpector 164]

Take a look at this first: http://www.arma3.com/features :)

T

[baloo666 10]

Hello All,

So the other day it was late night and I was on youtoobs when I happened to come across someone playing Arma DayZ.

I sat through his 30 minute gameplay commentary as I had absolutely nothing better to do with my time whatsoever.

The game itself seemed like something I "could" get involved with or atleast give it a go. (Still had no clue what it was about.)

To be honest, the idea of being in an open world where I can shoot other live players (not cpu) would be a nice time killer.

So went on Steam today to check out Arma 2 and saw the whole new page for Arma 3.

Thing is, I still dont know much about this game. So its open world.....Are we in an open world with other live players??

Can I shoot these live players?

Can I log in and sabotage everyone?

Or is it all CPU people in-game (Boring)

What are you supposed to do? Will there be a side you can choose on this massive open world and kill the opposite side? (Kinda like MAG on PS3)

Wanna try out the Alpha but on the bench at the moment until i can understand more about this game!

Thanks guys. BTW - Good Voice on the Arma Intro video - Enjoyed listening to that.

Oh....Is there a massive problem with cheating in the game currently? (This totally puts me off)

Download the free version try it out and it will show you what it is:)

[kapows 10]

ItsThomas -

Thanks for the link! Just seen it :)

Game looks quite complicated to explain im still not sure. I mean, he talks about creating your own gametypes and stuff which means all the players will be spread out so thin across servers 'cos everyone will have their own gametypes etc?

Ithink im having one of those days where im just not "getting" shi*t haha :S

baloo666

Is there a free version?! I thought you could only buy the game to get the Alpha!? DayZ is also you need to pay looking on Steam - Unless there's like a trial game im missing :(

[baloo666 10]

yea im sorry mate they had it not so long ago, i where not 100 sure when i said it so i apologize for that i bought it up when it was released so didnt have to check for free versions :S. it was a mate of mine who said it. sry

[NeuroFunker 11]

try arma 2 free first. http://www.arma2.com/agegate/agegate.html

[Smurf 12]

This cover a good part of it:

[xendance 3]

At best it's like this:

At worst: You plop down few squads on the terrain using the mission editing tool and have another squad run up to them or the campaign (not saying that the campaign will be bad).

[antoineflemming 14]

Can I shoot these live players?

Can I log in and sabotage everyone?

Um, why are we helping this guy? I mean, I'm all for helping newcomers, but do we really want yet another person like this playing the game...

[purepassion 22]

Absolutely we do! There's nothing wrong about "sabotaging". Let him be a explosive specialist and place satchels and mines... This attitude is what's not needed here

As posted by Smurf, the Dslyexci introduction shows quite nice what it is about in general.

Arma is a tactical open world sandbox shooter with focus on realism as an engaging tool which can be played in first and third person. It let's you utilize all ranges of modern warfare such as tanks, apc's, helicopters, boats, submarines, cars, jets, UAV's etc etc

There is a campaign with a storyline, there are single scenarios you can play, there is multiplayer with all kinds of cooperative or competitive gamemodes and most importantly, there is a very powerful mission editor and extensive mod support.

That means the community and you can create any scenario you have in mind in the editor and play it in singleplayer, multiplayer, against other players or AI.

The possibilities are endless. :)

[Inimical_rize 1]

Arma is one of the most fantastically amazing frustrating but epic games out there, its brilliant!

[antoineflemming 14]

Absolutely we do! There's nothing wrong about "sabotaging". Let him be a explosive specialist and place satchels and mines... This attitude is what's not needed here

As posted by Smurf, the Dslyexci introduction shows quite nice what it is about in general.

Arma is a tactical open world sandbox shooter with focus on realism as an engaging tool which can be played in first and third person. It let's you utilize all ranges of modern warfare such as tanks, apc's, helicopters, boats, submarines, cars, jets, UAV's etc etc

There is a campaign with a storyline, there are single scenarios you can play, there is multiplayer with all kinds of cooperative or competitive gamemodes and most importantly, there is a very powerful mission editor and extensive mod support.

That means the community and you can create any scenario you have in mind in the editor and play it in singleplayer, multiplayer, against other players or AI.

The possibilities are endless. :)

I'm sorry, when I see "can I log in and sabotage everyone", the first thing that comes to my mind is all the hackers who log on, kill everyone, blow up everything, hijack the server, and ruin everyone's experience. Maybe you haven't played in a dedicated community where this has happened, but I have and it's quite annoying. So annoying and problematic that BIS had to step in just recently. You can try to be sarcastic, but you sabotage equipment, not people. "Sabotaging" everyone has nothing to do with being an explosive specialist to blow up equipment. This childish attitude, where you log on just to wreak havoc and hack servers, is not needed or wanted in this community. I think that's abundantly clear.

@kapows: To answer your original post, Arma 3 is a realistic sandbox simulator. That means the game is designed to simulate realistic weapon, vehicle, aircraft, and watercraft functionality, and it features an in-game editor where you can place down AI characters, called units. The map is a whole island, called Stratis. You can put anything you want down in the editor and have your own missions. You can make your own missions with the editor too. These missions can be single player or multiplayer compatible. But, as I said to PurePassion, the whole idea of going into a thread and randomly killing people and shooting people is very much frowned upon in this community. If you are playing a team vs team type mission (game mode on server), then you should only be shooting the enemy. Make sure you shoot the enemy and not your own team. If you're playing on a cooperative server, then definitely do not shoot your teammates. Forgive me if I misunderstood you, but when you asked if you could "sabotage" everyone, I took that as meaning "killing everyone" in a server. Again, apologies.

Edited May 8, 2013 by antoineflemming

[sik 10]

So went on Steam today to check out Arma 2 and saw the whole new page for Arma 3.

If you send me your eMailaddress through PM I can send you ArmA 3 Alpha Lite Invite. You can see for yourself how it runs on your PC.

A few things about ArmA 3 Alpha Lite:

* It's an ALPHA (Bugs)

* Lite is free but has no multiplayer and runs out mid June

...but you can play a few missions to see the features and gameplay.

If you like it you can prepurchase the ArmA 3 and get unlimited access to Alpha.

[Flogger23m 2]

There is a campaign but I think you will spend most time making missions in the Editor. That is where simulators shine. IMO it is more difficult to do some basic functions compared to other mission editors such as DCS, but it can be very flexible. Mission types are limited by your imagination, and mainly stupid AI (at least in ArmA 2). Set up a patrol mission, a village/base defense mission, an escort mission or more.

I don't think many people play player VS player game modes in ArmA but I might be wrong. I would probably only play an ArmA game online if it was co-op in a proper mission.

The focus is infantry combat, though you can control most vehicles. The more complex the vehicle, the more arcade like it becomes. Aircraft are essentially like BF3 arcade level, only major difference is they have limited ammo. If you are looking for free flight simulators, try DCS and Rise of Flight and don't bother with ArmA.

It isn't an "MMO" or whatever where you run around unlocking quests, finding collectibles, going on "raids" and whatnot if that is what you are asking.

[Covert_Death 11]

if your looking for a realistic sim with TEAMWORK then get arma without hesitation

BUT if by "log in and sabotage everyone" you mean fuck up hard work people have put in to setting up a mission or team killing or ruining a stealth mission 30 minutes in for the lols this is NOT the game for you. if however by sabotage you really meant thwart the enemy's plans in battle and stop their assault then yes.

[paecmaker 23]

Just remember that dayZ is a mod for arma 2 and doesnt show the actual gamestyle.

Also what exactly do you mean with sabotage?

The core game is atleast a lot about teamwork so unless you only want to play SP or wasteland(similar) you need to work together with a team(join a group)

[chortles 263]

Thing is, I still dont know much about this game. So its open world.....Are we in an open world with other live players??

Or is it all CPU people in-game (Boring)

It can be either, or it can even be a mix of players and AI vs. other players and other AI.

What are you supposed to do? Will there be a side you can choose on this massive open world and kill the opposite side? (Kinda like MAG on PS3)

As other people said or implied in this thread, what you do is whatever the mission maker decides. :D Heck, Arma 3 has two different versions of Rush mode from the Battlefield games. :p Speaking of MAG, its "Domination" match type is (presumably) possible, we'd just need someone to put it together!

As an example of what co-op is can be like... in this Convoy Ambush, up to eight players can hop into "Zodiac" boats (yes think MW2's "Endgame" level :rolleyes: ) to quickly head to a location to intercept and ambush a convoy, kill a certain target in that convoy, then the surviving players are to get back into the boats and ride them away to the pickup point.

As an example of what player vs. player -- or rather, "team vs. team" (TvT) -- can be like, have

Blitzkrieg, or Advance And Secure (AAS).

On the other hand, there's also Team Deathmatch, free-for-all deathmatch, and Capture the Flag... or rather, capture the road cone. And unlike Battlefield 3, CTF does not cost US$14.99! ;)

NOTE: Friendly fire is always on by default! So unlike COD/BF3, when in doubt, don't shoot (unless playing the aforementioned free-for-all deathmatch) and do not play free-for-all-style in other modes!!!

Oh....Is there a massive problem with cheating in the game currently? (This totally puts me off)

There was a recent big hacking incident but a recent change removed the most obvious exploit loophole (the one that wa being used) so it's apparently gone down/away for now, and more anti-cheat fixes are planned.

Game looks quite complicated to explain im still not sure. I mean, he talks about creating your own gametypes and stuff which means all the players will be spread out so thin across servers 'cos everyone will have their own gametypes etc?

Not necessarily; sometimes people would rather just play instead of creating their own game types, and some types are really popular so they'll be played on multiple servers; right now variations of Wasteland are the most commonly seen in the server browser for public servers but there's also private servers with their own selections.

Quick explanation of DayZ's Steam page:

To play current DayZ (a mod/"game type") you need Arma 2 and Arma 2: Operation Arrowhead, because it uses many of the game mechanics from Operation Arrowhead while using a map and weapons from Arma 2. You can buy them together as Combined Operations, and you can get the three DLCs for OA separately or get everything together as Arma 2: Complete Collection; the BAF and PMC DLCs include higher-res textures for some of the stuff in DayZ. The important thing is that DAYZ MOD DOES NOT COST EXTRA!

(There is a separate version of DayZ coming out that will cost money called DayZ "standalone", but that isn't coming out yet.)

baloo666

Is there a free version?! I thought you could only buy the game to get the Alpha!? DayZ is also you need to pay looking on Steam - Unless there's like a trial game im missing :(

Quick explanation:

You can get an Steam key for an Arma 3 Alpha Lite from players such as sik who paid (alpha buyers get three Alpha Lite keys, I myself have two left as of this post). As sik said, this Alpha Lite has no multiplayer, runs out in mid-June, but also no modding support and no saving or loading missions in the Editor; otherwise you can do everything else with the Editor that you could do with the paid version, so the Alpha Lite is basically a single-player demo.

If you buy Arma 3 now while it's in alpha (it's not a normal Steam preorder) then you also get beta access when that happens and you would get the full game when that comes out. :) They'll raise the price for Arma 3 when the beta access opens up and the price for the full game will be even higher, so buying now gets you all three and basically means a big discount if you're willing to be okay with the game being very work-in-progress for now. :p

[gpha5e 1]

dude, arma is all about mission making and mods, every server has it's own set of mods allowed, has it's own mission type, when you play coop - you are ususally playing humans vs enemy ai, and believe me ai in arma will kick your ass if you go rambo, next thing - arma is ALL about teamplaying, you ain't shit without your teammates on a 290 km^2 island, you will need air transportation, you will need medical care, you will need AA, AT, there's also a squad leader, heck, you can also salute other players lol, there's a special animation for this :D and you will find yourself playing with mature ppl, but the game is not an arcady shooter like cod or bf, remember you're at war

[doogerie 10]

well ARMA3 is the third in the ARMA series(total shocker). So you got to really ask what is ARMA? ARMA is an accurate recreation of war you can go in all guns blazing but you will not last that long. it's better to make tactical decisions on the fly. in the single player game you will drive tanks fly aircraft and maybe even a few boats. the world is open but there are missions that you must complete within a time frame it's good buy it or id you are atill on the fence get the free version or go on to GOG and get Arma 1 or 2 to try it out

[metalcraze 290]

It's fourth.

[Maio 293]

It's fourth.

ArmA 2 does not count since it's a DayZ mod. :cool:

But to add something to this thread:

Arma ( the series) is a military sandbox which supports the following:

Single player: Campaign and stand alone scenarios ( missions)

Multilayer: Multiple game modes ( both PvP ( TDM, CTF, etc) and COOP) ( NOTE that if you want play on a server that uses mods, you might need to download them in order to join)

Missions editor: Allows you to create your own scenarios/campaigns for both SP and MP

Mod support: The devs give the community tools so that they can mod the game to their sick perverted pleasure. This mods can range from simple re-textures, audio enhancement/replacement to full blown conversion mods (e.x. WW2 mod, or Vietnam mod)

[xyberviri 1]

Also just from what you may have gathered from that video you saw, Natively Arma does not supposed persistent save states between server restarts/game sessions Ie it is not a MMO, all the servers are not connected, when the mission is over unless the person running the server has modified it to save data as such, the same applies if you disconnect from the server in most cases.

Just think FPS/TPS with the ability for the community to modify the game / server

[Leader 0]

I think hes been frightened off by antoineflemming :(

[chortles 263]

I think hes been frightened off by antoineflemming :(

Hmm...

Can I log in and sabotage everyone?

If you'll agree to put money in the devs' pockets, sure! :lol: