Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery AKA how to make a quick buck...

[[aps]gnat 28]

Just to prove you're screwed once they arrive on the scene .....

On-Topic.

Will be interesting, but I'm concerned its just another PvP

[nodunit 397]

Field probing.

[Smurf 12]

So, anyone playing the Alpha?

Looks like it has MANY crashes, animations in general are poor (better than DayZ tough), more PvP than survivor but in the end the game seems to be working (for an Alpha at least).

[dm 9]

This is all I have to say on the matter...

[Smurf 12]

Copying EULA IS NOT illegal. This Alpha stage has been rushed and there has not been any time to create an EULA thats why they used Riots since they were very familar with it since some of the developers used to work for Riot.

From one of thei forum staff. Anyway, I couldn't care less an EULA. I'm really interested to see how will BIS react now since finally they have compatition for one of their games....

[[aps]gnat 28]

React? Theres nothing to react to. And why?

ArmA2: DayZ has nearly run its course. DayZ(Stand-alone) is coming fast

[jblackrupert 14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-EKMkF-Pco

[derk yall 0]

jblackrupert: The video was deleted.

About WarZ...

The dev of WarZ are banning users who ask for refund on the WarZ forum. It is also reported that they also banned users who suggested to other people to buy the cheaper (survivor or how is that called) version instead of the more expensive version (legend?) of the game.

[Tonci87 163]

jblackrupert: The video was deleted.

About WarZ...

The dev of WarZ are banning users who ask for refund on the WarZ forum. It is also reported that they also banned users who suggested to other people to buy the cheaper (survivor or how is that called) version instead of the more expensive version (legend?) of the game.

I told you it´s a scam...

[derk yall 0]

Reading the WarZ forum is not even funny it is sad. People using harsh language and insulting everyone with no moderation. Bug-fixing threads are beeing deleted. Post and user banned when they mention false-promise and false advertising. It is like the worst of the game industry is hapening in one place.

I tried the WarZ alpha, pre aplha or what they call it at my friend house. There were so many glitches that we played in total just cca 25 minuts out of 6 hours we tried to play. Totaly felt like a badly done War Inc mod. My friend is considering to get a refund. He is not only dissatisfied with the "alpha" stage - but the WarZ community is something he don't want to be part of.

[metalcraze 290]

Did you expect more from a quick cash in?

[derk yall 0]

I expected nothing from it, but my friend had high hopes for it. When I was at his house and he told me he had it and that it was very disapoiting, he offered me to try it to prove myself. I had no expectation for it, I expected the game to be bad, mediocre. But I had not expected it to be so bad.

[jblackrupert 14]

Totaly felt like a badly done War Inc mod. My friend is considering to get a refund. He is not only dissatisfied with the "alpha" stage - but the WarZ community is something he don't want to be part of.

It is a War Inc. mod.

http://imgur.com/a/SvNg5#9BUFL

People have been saying that since the beginning when the first screenshots came out.

[instagoat 133]

jblackrupert: The video was deleted.

About WarZ...

The dev of WarZ are banning users who ask for refund on the WarZ forum. It is also reported that they also banned users who suggested to other people to buy the cheaper (survivor or how is that called) version instead of the more expensive version (legend?) of the game.

Really great... so are these WarTS people now providing to us the same kind of entertainment codies supplied to us in 2008?

[Smurf 12]

I'm not seeing THAT many complains about it, despite the crashes, small map, crappy textures and ocasional bugs.

Some screens (the game have a NDA but...)

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/mpc-hc2012-10-1710-55-49-58_zps5e677c89.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/mpc-hc2012-10-1710-56-18-81_zpsdb032bce.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/mpc-hc2012-10-1710-56-37-69_zps11257c18.png

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/bruninhu/WarZ/warz2.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/bruninhu/WarZ/warz1.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/5229/2012101700001.jpg

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-06-58-80_zps4a237f03.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-01-23-65_zps2a13d761.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-00-35-90_zps88da3420.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-00-28-15_zpsced2110b.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-59-30-95_zps53a137a9.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-58-39-99_zps7df55dc6.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-57-18-82_zps7139b8fd.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-57-07-70_zps794dcb59.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-56-42-66_zps5a6265bc.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-56-28-34_zps024e6d65.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-56-13-07_zpsc057324a.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-55-02-38_zpse79ce3ff.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-51-46-34_zps66644acf.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-50-55-95_zps7944773f.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-39-44-76_zpsec69f681.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-39-41-71_zps1ea766ad.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-38-54-78_zpsf773bf3f.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-38-20-79_zpsf4b8da32.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-37-25-26_zps87e0680e.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-33-23-87_zps6725bc0e.png

It's a scam? Maybe, only time will tell. For an Alpha that was asked by their community to be released in poll, despite the warnings from the devs of many placeholders and unfinished content, it doesn't look that bad at all.

[jblackrupert 14]

I'm not seeing THAT many complains about it, despite the crashes, small map, crappy textures and ocasional bugs.

Because they're doing exactly what conmasters did with Dragon Rising.

Delete the complaint posts and ban the posters.

The "Scam" part is it's not going to be what they promised it to be

they are copy/pasting stuff from the DayZ ideas forum and whatever Rocket

says he has planned for DayZ.

Everything is geared towards the store, buy food, medicine, ammo, water.....etc

you can gear up before even entering the game.

Download and play War Inc. and then go into WarZ if you have it...

they slapped it together in 3...maybe 4 months, not 2 years.

[derk yall 0]

There was a user on the WarZ forum wich pointed out some inconsistency about the actual player numbers.

Sergey Titov, the CEO of WarZ claim that 15 000 players had acces to the alpha version and that they will increase that number to 20 000 (or 30 000).

But that user pointed out, that there were even not enough servers with such amount of slots to support such large numbers of players. By rough calculation he estimated that there were just 7 000 player slots.

Also they have a official statement about refunds... quoting Sergey Titov:

"As I posted before - from over 100,000 users, we've had 58 requests for refund. And we granted refund to all of those 58 guys.

If you like to get refund - no problem - ask your payment provider for refund. They'll contact us ( paypal, etc ) and we'll accept this refund. Your account will be deleted and you'll never be able to buy this game again. Problem solved.

As for doing nothing - we have close to dozen people working literally day and night to fix bugs."

I had put the "interesting" parts in bold. Not that I expect people to buy this game again, but such statements are imature.

And he started a open letter to Rhinocruch - wich I asume is some youtube user who critized his game. Be it whatever reason - this is not a profesional aproach by any way. It is not the first day I heard about him acting unprofesional. He openly mocked the Dead Linger game.

Edited October 18, 2012 by Derk Yall
grammar :(

[da12thMonkey 1943]

Some screens (the game have a NDA but...)

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/mpc-hc2012-10-1710-55-49-58_zps5e677c89.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/mpc-hc2012-10-1710-56-18-81_zpsdb032bce.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/mpc-hc2012-10-1710-56-37-69_zps11257c18.png

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/bruninhu/WarZ/warz2.jpg

http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr55/bruninhu/WarZ/warz1.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/5229/2012101700001.jpg

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-06-58-80_zps4a237f03.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-01-23-65_zps2a13d761.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-00-35-90_zps88da3420.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1716-00-28-15_zpsced2110b.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-59-30-95_zps53a137a9.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-58-39-99_zps7df55dc6.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-57-18-82_zps7139b8fd.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-57-07-70_zps794dcb59.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-56-42-66_zps5a6265bc.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-56-28-34_zps024e6d65.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-56-13-07_zpsc057324a.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-55-02-38_zpse79ce3ff.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-51-46-34_zps66644acf.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-50-55-95_zps7944773f.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-39-44-76_zpsec69f681.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-39-41-71_zps1ea766ad.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-38-54-78_zpsf773bf3f.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-38-20-79_zpsf4b8da32.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-37-25-26_zps87e0680e.png

http://i1352.photobucket.com/albums/q651/raff1xd/WarZ2012-10-1715-33-23-87_zps6725bc0e.png

Heh, that crossbow model is a pretty extreme example of rehashing existing game assets - it's literally just an Accuracy International-type sniper rifle model with the barrel and action replaced with a bow, and a wood texture applied instead of plastic.

[Smurf 12]

Because they're doing exactly what conmasters did with Dragon Rising.

Delete the complaint posts and ban the posters.

Who said I'm talkling about the official forums? It's from a neutral, unbiased thread in one of the most popular gaming\tech foruns here in Brasil which have plenty of people that also played DayZ. Official forums are full of.... fanboys?

http://adrenaline.uol.com.br/forum/pc/408826-war-z-sobreviva-ao-apocalipse-zumbi.html

The "Scam" part is it's not going to be what they promised it to be

they are copy/pasting stuff from the DayZ ideas forum and whatever Rocket

says he has planned for DayZ.

So what? How many FPS copied COD style of doing things, from gameplay to perks and all? How many copied Uncharted\Gears of War? Why nobody cares? Because these games do it WAY better.

Wait and see what (if) they'll deliver.

Everything is geared towards the store, buy food, medicine, ammo, water.....etc

you can gear up before even entering the game.

Yeah, look at this pic. THIS is going to kill the game because it will turn it into a simple war FPS. They're digging their own ditch.

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/16770/1677000089388bbbd7394f00bc0d3eca3bbbf365.jpg

Download and play War Inc. and then go into WarZ if you have it...

they slapped it together in 3...maybe 4 months, not 2 years.

Yes, everyone knows that since day 1. If it works for them, what is the problem? War Inc is their game anyway.

It's not like any other company didn't that before. How many models from A2 came from A1?

Heh, that crossbow model is a pretty extreme example of rehashing existing game assets - it's literally just an Accuracy International-type sniper rifle model with the barrel and action replaced with a bow, and a wood texture applied instead of plastic.

Two words:

PMC XM-8

_______________________

To make clear: I don't care about WarZ and I barely played DayZ (but I'm anxious to see what the stand-alone will bring to the party, as some of it's solutions may be used in some other BI game :j:), but this attitude of bashing anything that "goes against BI" its getting in my nerves.

[instagoat 133]

Two words:

PMC XM-8

_______________________

To make clear: I don't care about WarZ and I barely played DayZ (but I'm anxious to see what the stand-alone will bring to the party, as some of it's solutions may be used in some other BI game :j:), but this attitude of bashing anything that "goes against BI" its getting in my nerves.

Hey, that´s a little unfair there... there were only three or four people TOTAL involved in the PMC art assets apart from the map. Only one of those I was told at GC worked on the art assets revolving around the Units themselves (which is why they have the kitbashed US army model with the pouches, which they used for the PKM gunner, RPG gunner and a handful of others, as well as the kitbashed AA-12 and Czech-vest dudes, and only two unique models with the commander and the engineer/frost model).

If WarZ only had a single person or two working on their art assets, okay, but with a whole team, the -many- asset recycles they used either screams of a scarily low budget, low production value, or very little dev time up to this point.

PMC was not as bad as people try to make it out to be. (That it also wasn´t excellent is also true, but for what it is, it is good. Comparing a small DLC like that to a fully blown game is apples and oranges too.)

My two cents on that.

Also: yes I am shameless BI fanboy. Though I can see where their problems are. I haven´t looked into warZ, the timing just seems suspicious, and the history of the guy behind it is pretty dubious too. BI has a proven track record: release broken games with great concepts, then fix them and do it better next time incrementally. The WarZ guy´s only claim to fame I could discern was the overland truck racing game. And that is doubtlessly one of the most shoddily made titles -ever- to hit the market.

Edited October 18, 2012 by InstaGoat

[jblackrupert 14]

Sergey Titov and co. are spending stupid amounts of time creating and posting under sock puppet accounts [Confirmed] all over the place

Hundreds, maybe thousands of War Inc players who paid for stuff got ripped off by them also, there were numorous complaints to the BBB

and other consumer agencies.

The open letter to RhinoCrunch also contains a veiled threat if you read it...

Sergey is a scheming scumbag with a history of slimy behavior.

---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 PM ----------

Who said I'm talkling about the official forums? It's from a neutral, unbiased thread in one of the most popular gaming\tech foruns here in Brasil which have plenty of people that also played DayZ. Official forums are full of.... fanboys?

Sock puppets.

Sergey has already been caught red handing several times and has admitted to it and continues to do it to this day.

he doesn't care, it's all about sucking as much money out of people as possible before the whole thing collapses.

[Smurf 12]

Sock puppets.

Sock Pu...WTF? Users older than A2 itselft and regular activity on the forum? Fuck me....

[derk yall 0]

Smurf: I think that jblackrupert was talking about the official WarZ forums beeing full of sock puppets instead of fanboys. Not that you are a sock puppet. ;)

[Smurf 12]

Yeah, now reading better he was just answering the "Offical foruns are full of.."; Sorry for that.

Anyway, last patch they started the implementation of safe zones (only place where you can access your inventory from now on) which in the future will be guarded by NPCs. Something like STALKER's. Might sound good in theory but these areas probably will be infested with people camping in the surroundings for easy loots. Unless people actually get organizaded to form convoys, things may get interesting.

[jblackrupert 14]

New RhinoCrunch video about WarZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

One developers Roman Stepanov [sock puppet account on DayZ forum: RussianKaliber] recorded on TeamSpeak helping people cheat in game.

Part 1: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l1ab7d7j3ycj1za/1L1xvsVtWK/Roman%20S%20WarZ%20Developer%201.mp3

Part 2: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/l1ab7d7j3ycj1za/NxtXYADkmH/Roman%20S%20WarZ%20Developer%202.mp3