b00ce 160 Posted June 8, 2012 So is it confirmed now? Booster was trolling and there will be no/little improvement on this front? Well it sucks but guess we can't get everything. Ace will do there thing and I guess that will have to do. O well. Or maybe Booster was trolling, but BIS is really improving what he said they would. :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danny96 80 Posted June 8, 2012 Or maybe Booster was trolling, but BIS is really improving what he said they would. :p Yes he was trolling - he promised deformation of vehicles - car rolled and no deformation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted June 8, 2012 Or Booster is a BIS Dev... *cough* Explains the non-reaction so far. The way he spread the informations and if they are not true, he should have been instant banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danny96 80 Posted June 8, 2012 [YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE] Got perfect avatar for your profile, Booster @mr.g-c Yes he lied, he put here youtube link 'I lied' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted June 8, 2012 The we should report his posts and speak with the lead-mod to let him getting banned... The way he lied and made us "hot" was under every level i could imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Coulum- 35 Posted June 8, 2012 Fuck!!! I hate this uncertainty. Im gonna assume there is going to be no improvements here. That way at least I can't be disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cm. 10 Posted June 8, 2012 If ArmA 3 ships with a damage system like the current game (ie, less realistic than BF3), it will be a pretty good troll in its own right. prepare to be trolled then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted June 8, 2012 You don't troll me, after what I've been through. http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?118336-ArmA-2-site-hacked&highlight=arma+site+hacked Is all I'm going to say. Booster, I'm going all in, you guys can fold if you like. P.S. Suggestions on Page 14 still stand, forevermore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antoineflemming 14 Posted June 8, 2012 Yes he was trolling - he promised deformation of vehicles - car rolled and no deformation. IF Booster was telling the truth, there may be a reason why we don't see that. The vehicle deformation may not be present because BIS recently upgraded from PhysX 2 to PhysX 3. They said they had to redo a lot of work they'd done with PhysX 2, so it may not be ready yet. That said, I think he lied. He says he lied. Devs say he trolled. On another note, I DOUBT an armored vehicle would deform that much from a roll anyway... It's an armored vehicle, not a car. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted June 8, 2012 IF Booster was telling the truth, there may be a reason why we don't see that. The vehicle deformation may not be present because BIS recently upgraded from PhysX 2 to PhysX 3. They said they had to redo a lot of work they'd done with PhysX 2, so it may not be ready yet. Gosh, stop making so much sense. Remember, kids: there are no such things as submarines in ArmA - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/epluribusunum.jpg/ And American forces have never entered Baghdad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted June 8, 2012 The current system of partial damage and armour penetration in Iron Front is pretty good, so I don't see why that would not be possible for A3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted June 8, 2012 The current system of partial damage and armour penetration in Iron Front is pretty good, so I don't see why that would not be possible for A3 Yeahh and while you say it... in the Gamestar E3 Video you can see they shot-away the tail-rotor of that little-bird. So thats some sort of partial damage system already... hmmm.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted June 8, 2012 The current system of partial damage and armour penetration in Iron Front is pretty good, so I don't see why that would not be possible for A3 Possible in the engine, for sure. But the Iron Front system required vehicles built for it from scratch. And in addition, WWII didn't have so much variety and complex technology in anti-armor and countermeasures. None of it remains classified, and there's more margin for fudging and balance. Hopefully the ACE 3 armor system will have less limitations enforced on it by the vehicle models. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 8, 2012 Yeahh and while you say it... in the Gamestar E3 Video you can see they shot-away the tail-rotor of that little-bird.So thats some sort of partial damage system already... hmmm.... And like I said, this is nothing you cant do in A2 already, the damage model on the E3 MH-6 is exactly the same as the damage model on the Take On light helicopter (because its the same model) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted June 8, 2012 And like I said, this is nothing you cant do in A2 already, the damage model on the E3 MH-6 is exactly the same as the damage model on the Take On light helicopter (because its the same model) And it is advanced over what we have currently in ArmA2.... :-) So at least "some" improvement in this sector... What advantages does TOHs damage model have else over ArmA2 choppers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[evo] dan 79 Posted June 8, 2012 A lot more parts can be damaged, if you turn to tight, you will damage the transmission will will cause your engine to break and then you will be forced to land. Also your rotor can be destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted June 8, 2012 Dan;2167995']A lot more parts can be damaged' date=' if you turn to tight, you will damage the transmission will will cause your engine to break and then you will be forced to land. Also your rotor can be destroyed.[/quote']That's pretty awesome as far as helo damage goes, though does the entire hull explode if you accidentally trip over a tiny, itsy-bitsy rock with your landing gear during take-off? I understand that if you clip a tree in ToH with your main rotor blades, the blades are out, while the hull remains intact, which isn't the bloody case in ArmA's hitpoint system. WTB Take on Tanks, so it could later be incorporated into a comprehensive package - ArmA IV. :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted June 8, 2012 The presence of Arena-type APS in the first teaser suggests some sort of improvement. Of course, this doesn't mean that the actual hitpoints system is gone. Maybe we can still disable Abrams and T-95s from the frontal arc with Mk. 19s, but some rockets get knocked out of the air first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted June 8, 2012 The presence of Arena-type APS in the first teaser suggests some sort of improvement. DKKbisvGspQ There needn't be some active ERA type armour to simulate this, just don't register certain types of AT ammo hits if they hit at certain angles to the hull, ricochet them, or make certain parts of the hull (front, or any part with ERA-type cladding) 'impenetrable' to certain types of AT. Of course, this doesn't mean that the actual hitpoints system is gone. Maybe we can still disable Abrams and T-95s from the frontal arc with Mk. 19s, but some rockets get knocked out of the air first. Hitpoint system will be there, it just needs to be subdivided into destroyable components (crew, ammo, engine, fuel, etc), so hitting a tip of the cannon, or a piece of the tracks with SABOT doesn't melt the God damn tank outright. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bohica 1 Posted June 10, 2012 Any chance we can get the Challenger MkII with accurate armour ie virtually indestructable?. Can we have realistic stabilised gunsights like the Abrams and Challenger have in reality? So much easier to hit the targets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antoineflemming 14 Posted June 10, 2012 Any chance we can get the Challenger MkII with accurate armour ie virtually indestructable?.Can we have realistic stabilised gunsights like the Abrams and Challenger have in reality? So much easier to hit the targets There's a ArmA 3: Community wishes & ideas|NO DISCUSSION thread for requests. This isn't that thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted June 12, 2012 Just curious how BIS should know about the exact/real data of all the stuff that is or will be fielded in 2035? Just some awesome speculations? Reading coffee grounds? Highly doubt that technologies and developments will be handed out just to everyone anytime soon.... ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=Grunt=- 10 Posted June 12, 2012 It's a mix of... Expected (Like the F35), speculations (Such as the Commanche, it's not made up but it was canceled but still in ArmA 3) and made-up but not impossible or has concept (Underwater AR) things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted June 12, 2012 NoRailGunner, High-tech composite materials at the very least. If everything else fails, including our own imagination, stick more Explosive Reactive Armour bricks on them tanks. :cc: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites