Is Arma 3 authentic?

[NoRailgunner 0]

Guess we can all agree that the Mil Mi-28 has just a small place behind the cockpit with no intention to transport troops on daily routine. It can be used as an uncomfortable, small "cabin" for emergency/evac but usually its used as "cargo" space for stuff & tools. No need to get mad over translation or media/marketing bs and go in circles....

[slatts 1978]

Guess we can all agree that the Mil Mi-28 has just a small place behind the cockpit with no intention to transport troops on daily routine. It can be used as an uncomfortable, small "cabin" for emergency/evac but usually its used as "cargo" space for stuff & tools. No need to get mad over translation or media/marketing bs and go in circles....

i by all means understand well its not intended for transport(even said it originally)

EDIT: anyway, feoFUN, lets agree to disagree and get back on topic

Edited April 15, 2012 by Slatts

[NoRailgunner 0]

@Slatts if you look at the comparison pic on the first page you will see that BIS made an hybrid/"merged version" of Mi-28 and Mi-24 .... guess that is called sometimes "creative mix". ;)

[slatts 1978]

@Slatts if you look at the comparison pic on the first page you will see that BIS made an hybrid/"merged version" of Mi-28 and Mi-24 .... guess that is called sometimes "creative mix". ;)

i know mate(cause few face palms when i pointed that out months later when i noticed :P )

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[arye_r 0]

"Stratis", RL Agios Efstratios

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The airport is fictional though...

[mr. bravo 17]

Also, in case someone wonders about the landmark on Spartan Trail (wich can also be seen on googlemaps at the end of southern road):

"The writing says "MOLON LAVE" which means "Come and get it".

It was King Leonidas answer to Xerxes, when he asked him to surrender Sparta"

Quite the awesome stuff :D

http://www.patricksaviation.com/files/photos/full/13782_10026.jpg

[ivan_dksd 10]

I don´t think butterflies exist in real life...

[purepassion 22]

Finally fixed all the corrupted stuff again :pray:

and updated the list with a new Stratis comparison shot I made, the Ops Core helmet, the Spartan Trail and the HEMTT Truck including its special version :p

:)

Edited April 20, 2012 by PurePassion

[Undeceived 392]

Great. :)

One small unimportant note:

That butterfly: Is it a secret weapon or did it just slip into the wrong section? :D

Also: The UGV Arma 3 link is corrupted.

Edited April 21, 2012 by Undeceived

[purepassion 22]

Great. :)

One small unimportant note:

That butterfly: Is it a secret weapon or did it just slip into the wrong section? :D

Thanks for the work, Pure! Looking good!

Also nice to see the venerable Battlefly in the correct category! :cool:

Best,

RiE

! :D But I am not going to talk about his highly classified weapon systems :cylon:

Also: The UGV Arma 3 link is corrupted.

Fixed it :) Thanks for pointing out!

[Dwarden 1124]

remember nuclear don't need mean radioactive like You know from popular media e.g. there is major difference between beta (not alpha) emissions etc.

do You know that e.g. exit signs or these watches which don't need power nor sunlight to glare use radioactive material ?

do You know we already know for over two decades how make safe low yield reactors which even if You blast it away would not turn into dirt nuclear bomb?

[onlyrazor 11]

do You know that e.g. exit signs or these watches which don't need power nor sunlight to glare use radioactive material ?

In fact, hydrogen's radioactive isotope tritium is also used in gunsights. If those were actually harmful, BIS would have probably already implemented face cancer simulation. :D

[Corvinus 35]

I'm pretty sure someone have already identified all equipment pieces which have appeared on the screens and posted his findings somewhere on the forum, but on the first page of this thread there is nothing about it, so I took the liberty of writing another long post. But I should warn that it seems that Arma 3 designers have used real-life examples rather as a source of inspiration instead of directly copying them, so my conclusions may be vague or just directly wrong.

First of all, I am going to dissect this picture:

Collimator sight - C-more Railway sight (thanks for IMFDB for this information);

Combat optical sight - slightly modified SpecterDR from Elcan with Docter red dot sight installed on top;

Night vision optical sight - that one is tricky. I couldn't find anything like it, all I can say is that it looks somewhat elcanish too;

Sniper optical sight - yet again, it's just fictional conventional "sniper sight" (or I was bad in looking for IRL analog). There are too many optics that looks similar to it, here is just one example out of many;

Laser marker - DBAL-A3;

Flashlight - this is the closest thing I could find;

Flash suppressor - Noveske KX3;

Sound suppressor - another "dark horse";

Now, as we have finished with weapon accessories, lets switch to the armor and equipment.

Before I'm going to discuss BLUEFOR equipment, I want to make a short stop on this picture - here we can see an OPFOR soldier in futuristic "Gorka" variant, 6Sh112 vest and Alta knee and elbow pads.

Now it's time for the BLUEFOR:

NATO combat helmet - ACH with rails, NVG mount, Peltor headset, HL1-B-TN Helmet Light and tonnes of other stuff;

NATO specops helmet - Ops-Core FAST helmet;

Pilot helmet is obviously a proposed one for F-35 helmet, while tank crew helmet most likely is purely fictional;

NATO load-bearing vest - Crye Precision's CAGE Plate Carrier;

NATO tactical bandolier - closest thing I could find;

OPFOR load-bearing vest - already mentioned 6Sh112 vest;

Apparel - Combat Pants AC and Combat Shirt AC from Crye Precision.

Goggles - they really look like Transcend goggles from Zeal, which is explainable, as they have HUD inside.

I really don't know what to say about boots and gloves, though boots look like something Converse would make.

So this is it, the end, I hope you enjoyed this little investigation as much as I did.

Edited May 1, 2012 by Corvinus

[Steakslim 1]

Flash suppressor - Noveske KX3;

Has anyone told BIS that the Noveske KX3 is not a flash suppressor, it's a compensator (dispite what some retailers have it labeled as). It pushes all the gasses forward (mainly for short barreled rifles to help them cycle) making a very notable fireball like in the video below.

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Now the muzzle device in this image: http://www.armaholic.com/datas/users/28epu7i_4.jpg is a flash suppressor, the SEI Vortex, which in-game I hope is represented well.

Additionally I just NOW realised in this image: http://www.arma3.com/full/wp-content/gallery/imagery/arma3_screenshot_1202_27.jpg that the car in the rear has it's headlights on...

[John Kozak 14]

Steakslim, you've got it all mixed up.

Recoil compensators and muzzle brakes are designed to direct the gases sideways and backwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake

The one which is directing all gases forward (like the KX3 device in question) is as good as nothing for this purpose.

Besides, it's not the retailers, it's the manufacturer itself who says it's a flash suppressor:

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=kx3556p&cat=11

The trick with the video you've shown is that without this device, the flash would be much brighter and visible from larger distance.

This is a common mistake - sound suppressor does not make the gun inaudible. Flash suppressors don't hide the flash completely as well. They just drastically reduce the distance from which the shot can be detected/located - both visually and/or audially.

Edited April 29, 2012 by DarkWanderer

[max power 21]

Steakslim is correct in his description of the KX3 device. It's is a muzzle booster, that compensates for the low gas pressure of short barrels, and the reliability problems caused by that.

[antoineflemming 14]

Goggles - they really look like Transcend goggles from Zeal, which is explainable, as they have HUD inside.

Wow. If this really is what the goggles are based off of, then I guess that increases the chances of there being a HUD for OPFOR and BLUFOR. And, IF BIS is including a HUD like overlay feature, then I guess both factions would have them. Not only that, but in this case then I guess what eyewear you choose would have a visual effect maybe.

[Steakslim 1]

Steakslim is correct in his description of the KX3 device. It's is a muzzle booster, that compensates for the low gas pressure of short barrels, and the reliability problems caused by that.

Thanks

Steakslim, you've got it all mixed up.

Recoil compensators and muzzle brakes are designed to direct the gases sideways and backwards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake

The one which is directing all gases forward (like the KX3 device in question) is as good as nothing for this purpose.

Besides, it's not the retailers, it's the manufacturer itself who says it's a flash suppressor:

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=kx3556p&cat=11

The trick with the video you've shown is that without this device, the flash would be much brighter and visible from larger distance.

This is a common mistake - sound suppressor does not make the gun inaudible. Flash suppressors don't hide the flash completely as well. They just drastically reduce the distance from which the shot can be detected/located - both visually and/or audially.

There's some gun manufacturers who refer to magazines as 'clips', doesn't make them right. I well know the difference between Compensators and Flash Suppressors, and the myths and misunderstandings of sound suppressors. Nothing about the KX3 suppresses the flash, especially if it's being used on a SBR as intended where you'll have a bunch of excess powder igniting beyond the barrel. You can read from people who actually own and use it and they'll tell you themselves that you do not buy it to suppress the flash. At best it may help the shooter's vision from being obscured by the blast since it's going forward, and not out in other directions, and helps with their hearing since all the impulses are going down range as well. Take any video of the KX3 being fired, and compare it to an actual flash suppressor doing as it's intended to do, like the one I posted earlier, the Vortex or an AAC Brakeout flash hider, and you'll see a drastic difference.

There's a reason the KX3 is called the "flaming pig". Hell for Noveske to market it as a flash suppressor and then put the image of a pig belching fire (which is strangely accurate to what it does) on the side of it, it must be some kind of strange joke.

That all being said, I have nothing against the KX3, in fact I like it for what it does and how it looks, especially on SBR's. I'm simply stating that it's being misrepresented in A3 (and in Arrowhead) as being a flash suppressor, and seeing it mounted on a M14 in some of the screenshots when you already have a Vortex as seen in the image in my last post (which actually very common for the rifle and is much lighter in weight on an already front heavy rifle) that does the job much better.

[slatts 1978]

or just make your gun have an adjustable gas system like the AUG ;)

[Steakslim 1]

Actually I think there's a large number of piston driven guns like the Scar and the FAL that have adjustable gas systems. I actually wouldn't mind seeing them make a return in A3.

[slatts 1978]

Actually I think there's a large number of piston driven guns like the Scar and the FAL that have adjustable gas systems. I actually wouldn't mind seeing them make a return in A3.

does the FAL have one? oooh never knew that :D

[antoineflemming 14]

Actually I think there's a large number of piston driven guns like the Scar and the FAL that have adjustable gas systems. I actually wouldn't mind seeing them make a return in A3.

Does the ACR have an adjustable gas system? Because regardless, it'd be kinda nice to see the SCAR and the ACR. I wonder if we'll see M4s and M16s since the Greek Army currently has some. Now that I think about it, I wonder what other weapons we'll see, besides the already known weapons.

[ulme911 1]

the F-35B entry in this thread and in the game is very flawed. posting a thread atm to show why.

[Steakslim 1]

It's been flawed since A2. I think they are still using the old prototype model (I personally cannot tell, just going from what others on this forum have mentioned). I know RKSL was all over that back when it was getting released.