BattleField 3

[jblackrupert 14]

@Baff1

If you're using the Disc version and it's taking that long more then likely it's not using the Disc at all and downloading/installing the digital version.

There was a glitch in the early days of release with Origin that was doing that. The only thing Origin should be doing is downloading the patches with the Disc version.

As for the Unlocks, One of the purposes of the unlock system [At least with the earlier Battlefields] was to force people to do their jobs to earn unlocks. Revive, Give ammo....etc.

the more you did your job the more points you earned for unlocks and ranks. Killing enemies got you less points then repairing and healing.

[Tonci87 163]

just a amall reminder

[Baff1 0]

@Baff1

If you're using the Disc version and it's taking that long more then likely it's not using the Disc at all and downloading/installing the digital version.

There was a glitch in the early days of release with Origin that was doing that. The only thing Origin should be doing is downloading the patches with the Disc version.

.

"should".

Lol.

But the setup.exe wouldn't run from the disc, so no real choice.

I got it all running now thanks, the EA live support guy fixed the crash for me. That was actually a worthwhile support service. Fast, effective, no "run antivrus, update your drivers" bollocks.

3 days to install from disc in the drive to playing the game is a new record for me.

Almost lost my sense of humour.

Close run thing.

Thanks for all your help.

[jblackrupert 14]

Check the EA UK forums about the install issue for the future though, There might be a fix for it in the even you need to reinstall.

EA phone support isn't bad at all, email support is whats completely useless.

Phone support outsourced to the Philippines but english literacy there is over 90%

unlike India where you'll get some village idiot eating with his/her feet up on a desk with their finger on the disconnect button

in case you ask a question that requires them to actually do work.

[st_dux 26]

Anyone with half a brain knows that these guys lie through their teeth in the name of money. It puzzles me as to why you constantly feel the need to defend them :confused:

Sometimes it might be a lie, but other times it may simply be a misinformed producer or a legitimate development plan that was changed later in the process. It's impossible to tell, and none of the examples that have been brought up in this thread meet the legal definition for fraud and/or false advertising. That's my sole point. I'm neither defending BF3 as a good game (I don't know) nor absolving BioWare's handling of the ME3 ending (which was terrible).

[Baff1 0]

Check the EA UK forums about the install issue for the future though.

I spent about 3 hours with all that stuff.

And many other forums besides.

No joy.

Just a lot of people with the same problem.

[gabe_ruckus 5]

I think most of the people who play regularly have most of their unlocks that fit their play style by now. I know I've got most of the Assault class unlocks already, so sinking six bucks into that wouldn't be a very good value. I may actually get the vehicle pack though. I don't use vehicles often, but I might use them more or try new things, like jets and attack helicopters, if I can just unlock everything. Especially at four dollars for the vehicle pack, I spend more than that on energy drinks. Figure if it gets me more enjoyment out of the game, then it's money well spent.

Getting all the unlocks still isn't going to make a new player a good player, either. I get where the cynics are coming from, but I just spent fifteen dollars on an addon that adds three helicopters to a game with almost no military content. I get a lot more per dollar paying a few bucks to make the vehicle experience a little more streamlined.

[st_dux 26]

Figure if it gets me more enjoyment out of the game, then it's money well spent.

What's with the rational thought? Don't you know that DLC is evil? If you support EA's greed now, tomorrow they'll be charging you $1,000 for a map pack that should have been included in the original game!

[boneboys 0]

@ Baff 1... You are a brave man, I have to admit that I have been laughing away at your pain, I would have given up after a couple of hours.

I tip my hat to you, good man.

[onlyrazor 11]

No joy.

Just a lot of people with the same problem.

[gammadust 12]

^^ this is so much me... (and happens so many times as you narrow down google results from the first thousands you get with unquoted sentences or bad keywords)

[viper[cww] 14]

What's with the rational thought? Don't you know that DLC is evil? If you support EA's greed now, tomorrow they'll be charging you $1,000 for a map pack that should have been included in the original game!

Such a troll, I remember reading you dont have BF3, I find it funny how you keep posting here with these endless rants.... FPDR

Your my first forum member added to ignore list.

Edited March 30, 2012 by VIPER[CWW]

[bangtail 0]

Ditto - the guy takes things way out of context and has no relevant contribution to the discussion.

[hellfire257 3]

Sometimes hearing the other side of the argument is a good thing :).

[bangtail 0]

Nope, can't agree with you there.

I'm not really interested in the opinion of someone who is happy to embrace whatever avaricious scheme publishers dream up.

I have nothing against paying a fair price for my games but DLC (most of the time and especially DLC that was part of the original game) and PaytoWin are just garbage designed to part people and their money.

I don't think EA or DLC in general is 'evil', I just don't espouse the idea of double and triple charging people for a game they have already bought.

Prime example, I bought PGA Tour 13 for the 360 - Collector's Edition. The minute I log in, it's telling me to go to the store to buy more courses. I just spent $70.00 on a game and now you want me to buy more courses. Keep in mind, this is a brand new game.

It's just insulting as far as I am concerned.

Edited March 31, 2012 by BangTail

[st_dux 26]

What am I taking out of context? I get why some people are upset with some of the ways in which the game industry sales model is evolving -- I even share your disappointment occasionally, as in the case of true PayToWin models, which I strongly dislike -- but this sense of entitlement that gamers have when it comes to how a developer can be allowed to sell its own product is way over-the-top.

Some people, as surprising as this may be, actually don't mind DLC. They're not terrible people, and EA isn't a terrible company simply by offering it. The idea that game companies should only be allowed to sell their products at "a fair price" or face forced closure (as has been suggested in this thread several times) is absurd: What is fair is determined by what the market will pay, not the other way around. If you don't think DLC is priced fairly, then by all means, don't buy it! Your opinion on the fairness of the price, however, does not give you the right to force EA or any other company to charge a different one.

Anyway, I didn't mean for this tangent, which started with BF3 DLC, to form its own separate line of discussion, so I'll leave it at that and let the thread continue on about BF3 proper.

[DetCord 96]

I just reinstalled it after a long hiatus (3 months or so).

Is it me, or has the player-base really declined?

[bangtail 0]

What am I taking out of context? I get why some people are upset with some of the ways in which the game industry sales model is evolving -- I even share your disappointment occasionally, as in the case of true PayToWin models, which I strongly dislike -- but this sense of entitlement that gamers have when it comes to how a developer can be allowed to sell its own product is way over-the-top.

Some people, as surprising as this may be, actually don't mind DLC. They're not terrible people, and EA isn't a terrible company simply by offering it. The idea that game companies should only be allowed to sell their products at "a fair price" or face forced closure (as has been suggested in this thread several times) is absurd: What is fair is determined by what the market will pay, not the other way around. If you don't think DLC is priced fairly, then by all means, don't buy it! Your opinion on the fairness of the price, however, does not give you the right to force EA or any other company to charge a different one.

Anyway, I didn't mean for this tangent, which started with BF3 DLC, to form its own separate line of discussion, so I'll leave it at that and let the thread continue on about BF3 proper.

This will also be my last word on the subject.

What you consistently ignore is the fact that more often than not, they are selling you parts of the original game at a premium, and that is what I strongly object to. I don't have a problem with original content being released 'down the line' but I have a serious issue with 'Day One DLC' and what I described before vis a vis PGA 13.

As I said before, the fact that people buy it does not speak to quality, actual value vs what you get for your money or the disingenuous behaviour of certain companies, it speaks to the fact that people buy it and that is all.

I'm not forcing EA to do anything, the only way to change their behaviour is by shopping elsewhere.

And finally, I certainly do not have a 'sense of entitlement'. I strongly believe in supporting developers who produce quality games and behave in an ethical manner.

I can't say the same for some of these companies however; there is no end to how much of our money they seem to think they are entitled to :rolleyes:

Edited April 1, 2012 by BangTail

[gabe_ruckus 5]

I haven't noticed any drop in servers, and I just came back to it after about a month. Sometimes you have to fiddle with the filter a little bit to get what you're looking for. If left to its own devices, it uses some arcane math to determine I would like a bunch of 32 player servers in Germany, and not 64 player servers in Dallas, TX, two states from me. Never have trouble finding a game, even in off hours.

Haven't noticed any horrific imbalancing post-patch, either. The best team will still (Almost always) win, and you still get WAAAYYYYY more points for supporting your team than you do for going lone wolf, even if you shelled out for the booster kits. If anything, some of the changes to air and armor assets have made the game feel more realistic.

[Tonci87 163]

[jw custom 56]

A lot of whining about the new patch on the BF3 forums lol.

Personally i find the magic circle recoil when suppressed kinda silly.

[onlyrazor 11]

A lot of whining about the new patch on the BF3 forums lol.

They can whine all they want, but this patch finally solved the lag-to-crash issue I've had.

[viper[cww] 14]

For some reason the game feels slower, players are harder to spot, and the new suppression feature makes suppressed weapons or any weapon at range feel useless.

Going to have to change my style of play completely. :Oo:

[Caselius 94]

;2127613']For some reason the game feels slower' date=' players are harder to spot, and the new suppression feature makes suppressed weapons or any weapon at range feel useless.

Going to have to change my style of play completely. :Oo:[/quote']

I had to change mine too, I spotted that playing Engineer has been got a lot harder because of the short range weapons which got even worser in last patch. Nowadays i find myself playing as assault and reviving teammates. One of only thing's i like in the new patch is tanks, they aren't undestroyable killing machines anymore.

Edited April 1, 2012 by Leopard

[viper[cww] 14]

Not to mention foregrips offer no reduced recoil/increased accuracy now. I was just starting to love the MG36. :(