mant3z 1 Posted May 19, 2011 Brand new is just brand new, not buyed from other devs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 19, 2011 Brand new is just brand new, not buyed from other devs. So, let me get this straight: you think if BIS created a brand new engine from scratch, it would be less buggy than a new iteration of RV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lNTRUDER 26 Posted May 19, 2011 LOLbrand new engine as in what? A licensed one, or some other RV iteration BIS has been working one (allegedly)? ohhh, btw, bugs have nothing to do with the game engine, but with the amount of tests one product undertakes This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icebreakr 3159 Posted May 19, 2011 To release A3 anytime soon without a full backward compatibility would be a non-sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PuFu 4600 Posted May 19, 2011 So, let me get this straight: you think if BIS created a brand new engine from scratch, it would be less buggy than a new iteration of RV? he got you in the trap dude! a buggy engine is one that doesn't work. afaik A2 works quite fine on my end :). 99.9% of the bugs in BIS games have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the engine. HB! have a good one btw! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mant3z 1 Posted May 19, 2011 Past 10 years I've played only OFP,ARMA, CIV and GTA... I hate games like COD, BF, Crysis etc I've tried those but comeone, there is One word for those... CRAP! Past 10 years I struggle with exactly the same bugs, despite I love this product you can really piss of after so many years suffering and struggle. Bloody hell it's fuc** 2011, we need damn physics, thundering sound and v.good optimised engine which was tested as it should be. I don't want to get product which is unplayable like was with OFP, ArmA1 and ArmA2. Don't you remember how devs relese urgent fixes after game premiere? I don't want to die anymore on bloody bikes, have a head bug or stuck in the rocks ect, ect.. I know that was fixed, but time shows that bugs which was fixed return like a boomerang. 5H12min ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 19, 2011 I would prefer if BIS would choose the way the DCS Devs took with their A-10 Game. Go for an Open Beta half a Year before the actuall release. I think this would really help to get the game stable before releasing it, and might change the "Arma is always buggy on release" reputation it now has Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lNTRUDER 26 Posted May 19, 2011 Past 10 years I've played only OFP,ARMA, CIV and GTA... I hate games like COD, BF, Crysis etc I've tried those but comeone, there is One word for those... CRAP!Past 10 years I struggle with exactly the same bugs, despite I love this product you can really piss of after so many years suffering and struggle. Bloody hell it's fuc** 2011, we need damn physics, thundering sound and v.good optimised engine which was tested as it should be. I don't want to get product which is unplayable like was with OFP, ArmA1 and ArmA2. Don't you remember how devs relese urgent fixes after game premiere? I don't want to die anymore on bloody bikes, have a head bug or stuck in the rocks ect, ect.. I know that was fixed, but time shows that bugs which was fixed return like a boomerang. 5H12min ;) I think this is a bit harsh. I have owned each of those titles since their release day and neither of them has been unplayable for me. Bugs will appear in any game title from release version. But the amount of bugs has a lot to do with the hours you can afford to squeeze in the budget for testing. If/when ArmA 3 hits the shelves it will not be bug free, I hope you realize this? Still it would be another great game from BIS, I have no doubts about that. And hmm..."thundering sound" ? Please tell me you are not talking about the booming bass sounds from a COD M4 for example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 19, 2011 I would prefer if BIS would choose the way the DCS Devs took with their A-10 Game. Go for an Open Beta half a Year before the actuall release. I think this would really help to get the game stable before releasing it, and might change the "Arma is always buggy on release" reputation it now has I'd say hand out a beta key for all pre-purchases made on Sprocket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 19, 2011 Exactly what I meant. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted May 19, 2011 There are two types of players :) one sees bugs as barriers, one sees bugs as obstacles. Obstacles can be moved around, barriers cannot. :) That's my theory anyway :) NTRUDER;1927534']I think this is a bit harsh. I have owned each of those titles since their release day and neither of them has been unplayable for me. Same as me. I always enjoyed those games and simply worked around the stuff that doesn't work properly. Funny to see the usual patterns of behavior - when there's nothing to do but wait, the bickering begins :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mant3z 1 Posted May 19, 2011 And hmm..."thundering sound" ? Please tell me you are not talking about the booming bass sounds from a COD M4 for example? I don't ever remember sounds from COD, I didn't finished this crap. But did you download any good sound mod to ArmA? Try one and you understand. Do you want to compare sound with some real guns, please whatch movies of this guy http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia#p/u/21/8O_bHR3BmTY he is testing lot of modern guns. Also cars, APCs, Tanks, helicopters and jets also have poor sounds. I'd say hand out a beta key for all pre-purchases made on Sprocket. YES! Please!!! I would love that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lNTRUDER 26 Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) I don't ever remember sounds from COD, I didn't finished this crap.But did you download any good sound mod to ArmA? Try one and you understand. Do you want to compare sound with some real guns, please whatch movies of this guy http://www.youtube.com/user/FPSRussia#p/u/21/8O_bHR3BmTY he is testing lot of modern guns. Also cars, APCs, Tanks, helicopters and jets also have poor sounds. Thanks for the clip but I already know a lot of the guns in OFP/ArmA from first hand experience. I didn't say that the stock sounds are the best ever, I was just concerned about your expression "thundering sound"... Especially when it comes to pistols and rifles it's important not to overdo it. Thus turning it into COD's "boom boom!"... Sorry all for the off topic route me and mant3z have taken you on. *edit* Epic page number :D Edited May 19, 2011 by ]NTRUDER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-iRf9AWoyE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmAriffic 10 Posted May 19, 2011 There are two types of players :) one sees bugs as barriers, one sees bugs as obstacles. There is three Someone who just overlooks the bugs and plays the game like they are not there (me :D) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mant3z 1 Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) Sorry all for the off topic route me and mant3z have taken you on. From yesterday this is one big off topic, today after 15:30 we will have here mass orgazm or mass suicides ;D There is threeSomeone who just overlooks the bugs and plays the game like they are not there (me ) How can I became your pupil master? ;) Edited May 19, 2011 by mant3z Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 19, 2011 today after 15:30 we will have here mass orgazm or mass suicides ;D There will be both. I guarantee it, no matter what the announcement is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjph 0 Posted May 19, 2011 From yesterday this is one big off topic, today after 15:30 we will have here mass orgazm or mass suicides ;D Or maybe both. You can't please all of the people all of the time. cj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 19, 2011 Or Mass rioting. People taking up Forks and Torches, going to the CZ and demonstrating in Front of the BIS office :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lNTRUDER 26 Posted May 19, 2011 (edited) From yesterday this is one big off topic True that, I was just being polite to the rest of the thread junkies :) *edit* Or maybe both. You can't please all of the people all of the time.cj Extra points for the subtle Pantera reference! Edited May 19, 2011 by ]NTRUDER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mant3z 1 Posted May 19, 2011 Well we can do mass riot in Czech, they've got legal weed like in Netherlands :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Undeceived 392 Posted May 19, 2011 There will be both. I guarantee it, no matter what the announcement is. Yes. Expectations are always different. Some even are unrealistic. :) Also: Haters are gonna hate... But I'm sure that I'll not be in the suicidal group! ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 19, 2011 Btw. the active member count has been slowly dropping since the hacking game stopped: Active Members: 4,973 It was over 4990 last time I looked. I wonder what it will be after BI's announcement... :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 19, 2011 I would say we will have a new Forum record during the announcement. I` curious if the Forum will just crash.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted May 19, 2011 nooo dont say that lol! everyone will suicide then haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites