ArmA 2 site hacked

[Daniel 0]

At the risk of asking a stupid question, what's RFT?

[PuFu 4600]

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What evidence is there to support this claim? If there is any I must have missed it.

There is none, and you should have got used to this sort sort of...logics(?) in this thread by now.

No worries, you are not the only one who is :butbut: about this neuronal phenomena

At the risk of asking a stupid question, what's RFT?

RFT-Reinforcements (BAF+PMC content + campaign and missions using latest OA engine version)

Edited May 18, 2011 by PuFu

[Cyteless 10]

At the risk of asking a stupid question, what's RFT?

Reinforcements.

Edit:

http://www.arma2.com/rft

[Daniel 0]

Least I didn't get a stupid answer. :o

And in that case I can see ArmAriffic's thinking. Why bundle two DLCs together if you plan to release more?

[max power 21]

Because the community wanted the DLCs on disc so they can have a hard copy.

Perhaps, since RFT comes with a lite version of OA, so when people play the OA MP missions using the lite content with their friends, it might serve as advertizing to get the full pack.

There are many likely reasons as to why they packed RFT on disc. The only real reason you can divine from that point and that point only is that they felt it would be beneficial to their business to do so in the short term or the long term. I'm not saying that RFT is the last DLC they're doing for ArmA 2 / OA. All I'm saying is there is no good reason to believe that it is either way.

Edited May 18, 2011 by Max Power

[Darky88 0]

Because the community wanted the DLCs on disc so they can have a hard copy.

Yea but you don't do that if you're going to release more, what would that end up at? Reinforcements Reloaded on the 3rd DLC? I don't think so, that would be ridiculous.

Similiary I don't think there's another Expansion, why would you fragment the community with so many different games. It's already hard enough to play with people as is (some of my friends have ArmA2 and can't run OA, others have OA but don't care for Arma2 itself, etc. so it's hard to find maps and mods to play with them if they don't have Combined Ops running, a third Expansion would only make it worse I think)

[nouty 10]

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But whatever happened to this? http://www.aan-online.com/en/p8h8-attack/36-p8h8-attacks-hindered.html

NVM, it works again now... it was full of random symbols for me a while back...

[max power 21]

There is none, and you should have got used to this sort sort of...logics(?) in this thread by now.

No worries, you are not the only one who is :butbut: about this neuronal phenomena

I guess if creativity is lateral thinking, this must be unilateral thinking ^_^

Identify a rhetorical end and create premises to support it.

Yea but you don't do that if you're going to release more, what would that end up at? Reinforcements Reloaded on the 3rd DLC? I don't think so, that would be ridiculous.

Why would they do that? OA comes with RFT lite anyways. Why wouldn't they just create a new DLC pack and refer it back to OA with another iteration of OA lite?

Edited May 18, 2011 by Max Power

[mattxr 9]

Well im off to bed and you can guarantee that when im work tomorrow the customers will be coming last! i will be glued to the BIS site and fourms :D

[Copsy 10]

Well im off to bed and you can guarantee that when im work tomorrow the customers will be coming last! i will be glued to the BIS site and fourms :D

Same No revision for my exam on friday just glued to the Bi fourm lmao!

[kremator 1065]

Remember that they have 140 staff !!! That is a lot of keyboard bashing !

[victim913 10]

Yea but you don't do that if you're going to release more, what would that end up at? Reinforcements Reloaded on the 3rd DLC? I don't think so, that would be ridiculous.

Why would it be ridiculous? Your missing 2 points. Putting Reinforcements on a disc = more $ for BI. Besides people that couldn't DLC it, how many people bought the DLC also bought Reinforcements? ALOT. You forget the point of this entire game. Make money!

Second, they don't need to screw around with BAF or PMC anymore. So there will be no more Reinforcements reloaded. It will be entirely seperate.

If you look at the clues:

Maybe the next expansion for Arma2 will be "Guerillas". There was alot of mention to that in the clues.

[das attorney 858]

At the risk of asking a stupid question, what's RFT?

I thought that as well. The only RFT I could think of is from when I used to stack pallets at Smithkline Beechams (as it was then).

RFT = Right First Time - Not likely, either then or now ;)

[fludblud 10]

I think it's funny how the last few hundred pages has been about Arma3 or Outera, or other engines, etc...

What does any of those have to do with all the clues? We have totally disregarded all of the clues and this whole p8h8 thing and started getting ourselves hyped about arma3 and that other stuff that had nothing to do with all those clues. The clues have been about people and places and timelines and history, not about game engines.

If it is Arma3, what does the clues have to do with it? And if it is 3, you will all be disappointed to find out it will still be months if not years before you can get your hands on it.

So from the clues, why would it mean Arma3?

To me it would seem like whatever they have been building up the clues to would be something they would release in the near future. Or why bother hyping us up at all. If it was 3 I would guess they might say they have started working on it, then when they have a release date, then they would promote it like this. That's just my opinion.

because putting so much time and effort into an ARG only to announce an expansion pack would be nonsensical considering neither arrowhead nor any of the DLCs received such extensive hype. so logically, such hype can only really be justified for a sequel to the ARMA genre.

in addition, a new arma sequel seems to emerge every 3 years as ARMA 1 came out in 2006 and arma 2 in 2009. assuming this ARG is building up to an announcement at E3, that would likely place ARMA 3 for release in 2012, right on schedule.

obviously this ARG is detailing on the scenarios and storyline that could happen in ARMA 3 without explicitly stating the actual game which allows for speculation interest to gradually build up to E3 on the 7th june.

its marketing 101

[hamm 10]

Why would it be ridiculous? Your missing 2 points. Putting Reinforcements on a disc = more $ for BI. Besides people that couldn't DLC it, how many people bought the DLC also bought Reinforcements? ALOT. You forget the point of this entire game. Make money!

Second, they don't need to screw around with BAF or PMC anymore. So there will be no more Reinforcements reloaded. It will be entirely seperate.

If you look at the clues:

Maybe the next expansion for Arma2 will be "Guerillas". There was alot of mention to that in the clues.

You guys really think it wouldn't make sense to hold up RFT's release for another DLC?

Do you seriously think releasing RFT April 1st then announcing a third DLC only 1.5 months later really makes any sense? If anything, they'd delay RFT to include all three DLCs. Which is why people are convinced this isn't a DLC....

As to wether it's an expansion, I'd say the signs are pretty obvious it isn't. (Hinting at a physics engine, hinting at a 477 sqr. km. map, hinting at naval warfare) and this also applies to people who think the "clues" have nothing to do with ArmA3, are you serious? You can look at the clues in a multitude of ways that would fit with a new game. Clue about Miller and his SBS unit = that could be the main pro/antagonist, clue about ball hitting wall could mean a new physics engine implemented into the game, clue about submarine hints about underwater simulation, several clues about Greece ending with a final "hack" that shows a specific picture of a strategic Greek island that looks perfect for ArmA gameplay.....

I'm convinced it's gonna be an ArmA3 announcement tomorrow with a release late 2012. Take my soul BIS.

[max power 21]

I don't think anyone is saying that it's another expansion for certain. The current argument here is whether or not there is sufficient evidence to believe that RFT was the last expansion they will make for ArmA 2. Of course, you read the thread so you understand that, right?

[noubernou 77]

Wow this has gone horribly (and boringly) off-topic.

[Copsy 10]

because putting so much time and effort into an ARG only to announce an expansion pack would be nonsensical considering neither arrowhead nor any of the DLCs received such extensive hype. so logically, such hype can only really be justified for a sequel to the ARMA genre.

its marketing 101

Arma 2 Never recieved such an extensive hype

Neither did arma 1

Consider both were sequels to OFP and Arma 2 was Armed assaults Sequel

I think it may be a whole new expansion

Just like arrowhead but completely reworked physics etc

But im also open to the possibility it could be ArmA3 None of us will know for another 13 hours 30 minutes!!!!!!!!

[gammadust 12]

I guess if creativity is lateral thinking, this must be unilateral thinking ^_^

Identify a rhetorical end and create premises to support it.

Don't bother it's just PuFu and his magical quest to end alleged ignorance in the world. Quixote at least wasn't blind.

[t_d 47]

Feel the urge to say some words about logic, but I will keep it to myself.

Here is my point of view to this whole topic:

For the announcement of Take On Helicopters BIS tested our interest (and maybe abilities) in solving puzzles. This wasn't an ARG though, because there was no story but just the puzzles. This was quite successful and so they could start their ARG (which probably was already nearly completely planned looking at the scope of it) to introduce their announcement that we will see in a few hours.

The clues we got with the ARG are quite random:

*strategic map of europe

*Astute submarine

*pictures of Scott Miller

*animation of a ball destroying a wall

*lot of references to Greece

*Seeker.exe giving date of birth of Scott Miller (and historical events)

*places and years of rebels?

*picture of airport in Lemnos (Greece)

These clues doesnt directly lead to ArmA3 but definately fill the scope of a full game. But the new domain owner of arma3.com being BIS and the youtube channel right before the announcement date is quite a hint. So I would be very suprised if the announcement is not about ArmA3. It will be interesting to see what stage of developement they are in though. Will they announce that they started working on it or that they will release it this year. Furthermore we probably get enough information of the story and engine to make sense out of all the clues that were given during the ARG.

In the end we cant be sure about anything until we saw the announcement.

[soul_assassin 1750]

Don't bother it's just PuFu and his magical quest to end alleged ignorance in the world. Quixote at least wasn't blind.

Glad its not having any effect on you :)

[max power 21]

Don't bother it's just PuFu and his magical quest to end alleged ignorance in the world. Quixote at least wasn't blind.

Just for clarity's sake, I was supporting what PuFu was saying about the conclusions some people are coming to.

[leathery420 10]

BI is letting the PR devs use the British forces DLC for PR arma. think that has anything to do with it? prolly not but its really cool.

[gammadust 12]

No worries, for one to be sceptic about some whishfull thinking is the position I try to sustain, even if one feels sometimes tempted otherwise.

What I am not going to do is to break anyone's bubble just for the sake of it, specially in a matter as "Arma: what next?", specially because I might just turn out to be wrong, specially because I like to be welcoming to, as you put it "lateral thinking".

[Steakslim 1]

BI is letting the PR devs use the British forces DLC for PR arma. think that has anything to do with it? prolly not but its really cool.

Uhm...last i read, those where their own models.