Bin Laden Is Dead

[maturin 12]

whos next...Vladimir Putin?

:j:

Funny you mention the guy who had his military drop Thermobaric Bombs on entire villages, and carpet-bombed a city to dust. Yeah, so barbaric we are.

Boo-hoo.

So tell us, how would the genteel security apparatus have handled Osama?

[Beagle 684]

:j:

Funny you mention the guy who had his military drop Thermobaric Bombs on entire villages, and carpet-bombed a city to dust. Yeah, so barbaric we are.

Boo-hoo.

think about it..."we" (the NATO etc.) right now bomb Ghadaffis family as personalized targets for the same reasons.

And you may have missed the point...Osama is just the "symbol" for how we treat such problems now in general...and the cheering about it makes my ears ring already. Time to put my energy shielding back online to stop THEM from cntrollign my mind. Tinfoil hat was yesterday...nowadays the threat comes from your i-phone.

Edited May 2, 2011 by Beagle

[STALKERGB 6]

To be honest, it could have been worse if they'd taken him alive. Parading him around in an orange jumpsuit wouldn't have looked very good. Somehow the US/Media/People watching always seem to be able to make the prisoner look like the victim (true or otherwise...).

Oh and, epic fail:

mMP7Ys57ha4

[d3lta 10]

Flash slides inside

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/910192-veja-como-foi-o-ataque-dos-eua-que-matou-osama-bin-laden.shtml

ideas for missions!!! (Zargabah , iahhh):yay:

[walker 0]

After staring and staring it took me a while to realize that we are looking at the leading edge of a vertical stabilizer not the trailing edge. In that case I think it looks like part of an H-60 variant vertical stabilizer. If it crashed and the tail rotor hit something, it would have torn the gearbox to shit and most of the top part of the stab would be a mess.

Hi LeftSkidLow

I also think the stuff at the top is the not the rotors but the inards of the boom. I think the rotor is down behind the screen. The stabalizer rotates like elevators on a plane and have rotated in the crash until vertical. I can also see the rear wheel at the top of the picture.

Follow this link to see picture posted by Iroquois Pliskin:

Anyone able to identify this machine? A tail, broken in half against a brick wall. ;)

Kind Regards walker

Edited May 2, 2011 by walker

[Laqueesha 474]

In fact the way the U.S. buried him is a total disgrace to islamic traditions.

True, in fact, mainstream Islam doesn't look too kindly upon burial at sea or on cremation. Islam prefers burial on land.

[maturin 12]

think about it..."we" (the NATO etc.) right now bomb Ghadaffis family as personalized targets for the same reasons.

And you may have missed the point...Osama is just the "symbol" for how we treat such problems now in general...and the cheering about it makes my ears ring already. Time to put my energy shielding back online to stop THEM from cntrollign my mind. Tinfoil hat was yesterday...nowadays the threat comes from your i-phone.

NATO is functionally at war with Libya. And we targeted him (if we targeted him, his compound has been hit with missiles at several points) for wholly different reasons. But those differences would disrupt your weak smokescreen of intimation. Where's Baff? This thread needs some well-argued foolishness.

[walker 0]

Hi all

President Obama watched the Operation Live in Real Time:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13262531

Kind Regards walker

[Mr. Charles 22]

sWS-FoXbjVI

:rolleyes:

[NoQuarter 0]

Actually, Bin Laden was a wahhabi, which is a branch of Islam, which forbids worshipping of martyrs and prefers a anonymous burial of the body.

In fact the way the US buried him is a total disgrace to islamic traditions.

True, in fact, mainstream Islam doesn't look too kindly upon burial at sea or on cremation. Islam prefers burial on land.

Perhaps mainstream Islam should have dealt with the entire matter in the first place, instead of looking the other way -or worse- for years and left it for US uncivilized, culturally insensitive barbarians to handle.

Lord.

[thedudeabides 40]

@Beagle

You and people that think like you are whats wrong with the world today!

Since it is so easy, you tell me where you live, I will come and shoot at you, then you tell me to surrender so I can face a court be a prisoner for the rest of my life to be paraded around like King Kong for everyone to see! We will see what happens.

Just amazing some people, ignorance because the world works in such a easy proficient manner for you!

Did you really think he just had some 14 year old boys there with AKs to big for them as his protective detail? A woman was also killed acting as his human shield!

Don't forget, these Tier 1 units aren't fucking police, they are some hard core dudes that kill very proficiently.

So, do everyone a favor and go bang your head on the wall and stop being stupid

[Spokesperson 0]

Osama may be a reactionary bastard, but it's wrong to kill people like that, especially without a trial. It's just plain murder and a crime in itself.

[JdB 151]

Osama may be a reactionary bastard, but it's wrong to kill people like that, especially without a trial. It's just plain murder and a crime in itself.

And murder without trial is something your communist idols have made into an art form :j:

[Spokesperson 0]

Right, so with that kind of reasoning there's nothing wrong with it. Obama does it, so Stalin can do it too.

[Mr. Charles 22]

vs.

http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/bin_laden_killed/bp9.jpg

People are just animals

So, do everyone a favor and go bang your head on the wall and stop being stupid

Really grown up, are we?

What has changed for international terrorism? Bin Laden was nothing more than a symbol for radical islamistic terrorism. He did not even have a telephone or access to the internet. He was nothing more than a man living in this house at this time.

"Justice" for the victims of 9/11? One of the most ridiculous signal words thrown around atm. Nothing will change for the victims of the embassy bombings or that 9/11 bullshit. The parties thrown around for the killing of this man just makes me sick. These people in front of the white house would drag his body through the streets like in ye good ol' times, if the military wouldn't have dropped him into the sea.

IMHO this cover story for the US to get rid of the body is pure bullshit. They want to give bin Laden a proper islamic funeral, yet drop his body into the sea? Sounds too fishy for me. The only evidence which could have proved it was really him, lies now on the bottom of the sea. Identifying him by appereance or DNA you say? Well, i shit you not, but there are so called doppelgänger or prepared bodies for this. DNA? Well, how did they get a sample from Osama bin Laden to prove it is him in the first place or who is there to say that the test is 100% untouched?

And martyrdom? Hell, the media made him the evil overlord, sitting right next to Hitler, Stalin and the likes. The US used him as a reason to get rid of the Taliban in Afghanistan, where they, oh wonder, found ressources worth of a trillion dollars. Now Obama puts even more soldiers into Afghanistan to "help" the people there.

Just look at this and tell me why they fought a war against terrorism:

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/world/asia/14minerals.html?scp=1&sq=afghanistan%20resources&st=cse

Call me a nutjob conspiracist but damn, this is obvious

Edited May 2, 2011 by Mr. Charles

[froggyluv 2136]

Simplified argument is simple.

The difference is in that just grabbing your own political dissedents off the street never to be heard of again and targeting + killing an individual who clearly attacked and killed many and has been broadcasting himself calling for terror cells to keep killing for many years is pretty significant.

[lugiahua 26]

last time I check, Bin-Laden is a terrorist and armed, which is not protected by Geneva Convention.

according to the logic of some above dudes, that US forces should only armed with Taser and Mace against Taliban so we can arrest them alive when they fired their AK and RPG at us.

Edited May 2, 2011 by Lugiahua

[celery 8]

If killing Osama on sight was wrong, why was it ok to kill thousands of his soldiers as a retaliation for 9/11?

[JdB 151]

If killing Osama on sight was wrong, why was it ok to kill thousands of his soldiers as a retaliation for 9/11?

Whom, if we're referring to the Geneva Convention anyway, are not wearing uniforms, are hiding amongst the civilian population, using them as human shields, forcing them into the role of a combatant, purposely bombing civilian targets knowing that there is no legitimate military target amongst them, but purely to terrorize civilians, burning down schools and killing the students, abducting and killing aid workers, torturing and murdering civilians and POWs alike for the purpose or terror* etc.

That doesn't even mention some of the crimes against humanity that are a result of the Sharia, like stoning women and withholding civilians from seeking medical aid.

Al-Qaeda broke most of the rules in the Geneva Convention (if not all), now one more person had to accept the consequences of their actions.

* Some members of the previous US administration should be put on trial for condoning torture as well, though the torture had a different purpose, to extract information on legitimate targets from armed combatants.

Edited May 2, 2011 by JdB

[Beagle 684]

If killing Osama on sight was wrong, why was it ok to kill thousands of his soldiers as a retaliation for 9/11?

because that compound was not a legal combat zone nor did the USA have any kind of authority in Pakistan. Thing would have lookes better had they found him in a cave in Afghanistan. Right now we only have naother questionable action of US "we can go everywhere, stay out of the way or die" world police that is know for shoot first, ask later.

[NoQuarter 0]

The US used him as a reason to get rid of the Taliban in Afghanistan, where they, oh wonder, found ressources worth of a trillion dollars. Now Obama puts even more soldiers into Afghanistan to "help" the people there.

Just look at this and tell me why they fought a war against terrorism:

You know, I must have pissed somebody off real bad, because I have yet to receive my fair share of the booty/resources/oil any of our MICs recently waged aggressive wars of conquest have collected.

Mr. Charles, you seem to have all the answers, do you happen to know the reason behind ^this?

Call me a nutjob conspiracist but damn, this is obvious

This is nutjob conspiratorial. Damned obvious.;)

[Mr. Charles 22]

If killing Osama on sight was wrong, why was it ok to kill thousands of his soldiers as a retaliation for 9/11?

Did i say something like that? Like the majority of the german people i do not want our Bundeswehr in this shithole there.

I think we need some cabaret to loosen the tension:

@Beagle: Ich glaub wir kommen hier nicht weiter, hau mich aufs ohr ;D

Edited May 2, 2011 by Mr. Charles

[Daniel 0]

because that compound was not a legal combat zone nor did the USA have any kind of authority in Pakistan. Thing would have lookes better had they found him in a cave in Afghanistan. Right now we only have naother questionable action of US "we can go everywhere, stay out of the way or die" world police that is know for shoot first, ask later.

It shouldn't make any difference whether he was shot in a cave or a millionaire's compound, he admitted his part in 9/11, he's repeatedly called for more acts of violence against civilians, and now America finally tracked him down and killed him for it. Fair enough, no?

[Guest]

I have been typing trying to reply to this thread for about 30 minutes, but there is just way too much to even possibly consider typing.

Politics/war/money/the world...

Nothing is what it seems.

[JdB 151]

Did i say something like that? Like the majority of the german people i do not want our Bundeswehr in this shithole there.

No, a section of the German people, especially voters of Die Linke, believes that pacifism, talking your way out of pure hatred and a desire for the destruction of your civilization (ironically that very same civilization is enabling your method of solving every last one of the world's problems through dialogue) is a viable option. This all stemming from WW2, and the ever present feeling of guilt the country still has. The first thing that the Germans should do if the diluted socialists are to be believed is dissolve the Bundeswehr, so there can never be a repeat of the crime that is WW2, and the German people should forever hold their heads down in shame, and accept whatever punishment is forced upon them by any punk, whether they be islamic terrorists or non-native criminals. If bad things happen in other countries that's their problem, and Germany shouldn't have any part in helping the helpless if it involves any form of military action isn't it?

All of the socialist ideas about a world without war and conlict, peace through dialogue, are the result of too much drug use. The world has never been without war, abuse, murder, it's in our blood. People have always prayed on the weak, whatever kind of "weak", whether they be women, poor, children, illiterate etc, and has always known second-class citizens, whether by religion, race, nationality etc. Violence has unfortunately proven to be a necessary evil to enable progress.

Edited May 3, 2011 by JdB