BronzeEagle 2 Posted December 29, 2010 its a new documentary coming to discovery channel and its about afghanistan. has anyone seen an advanced copy perhaps by downloading it or has anyone watched it already? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prydain 1 Posted December 29, 2010 Rented it on iTunes. American soldiers in a sort-of pointless FOB getting killed... meh. By extension it tells the story of Afghanistan, a fruitless attempt to bring things westerners value to a country that has and wants nothing but this story has been told before over and over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnimalMother92 10 Posted December 29, 2010 Watched it a few weeks ago. It was well done, but saddening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 0 Posted December 29, 2010 I watched it on netflix. Which the FOB was not pointless but to stabalize that area for a road being constructed. There is no story its just basically there day to day lifes at the FOB which they built a fire base and named it after their medic "Restrepo" who was killed. I believe they said around 60% to 70% of all bombs dropped in Afghanistan was in that area. Very touching documentary because you cant help to feel sorry for the soldiers but at the same time you see innocent civilians including children being bombed and its very sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prydain 1 Posted December 29, 2010 It could have been called Armadillo II. The same story, about the tragic expedition and how it effects the soldiers and how pointless things feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted December 29, 2010 Speaking of Armadillo, how can a guy watch it online? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 0 Posted December 29, 2010 Speaking of Armadillo, how can a guy watch it online? Netflix or ITunes ---------- Post added at 04:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ---------- Speaking of Armadillo, how can a guy watch it online? Netflix or ITunes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_centipede 31 Posted December 30, 2010 i have a question, that capt kearney guy, is he a company commander or a platoon comander? i assume he's a coy comdr... but the story suppose to be about the 2nd pltn B coy right? so that got me a little confuse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BronzeEagle 2 Posted December 30, 2010 yeah i downloaded it last two days and got it today and watched it, it was okay, i liked it. Far as flashpoint goes, lots of sound effects one could take off of it. Rest in peace to the men who died there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STALKERGB 6 Posted April 20, 2011 Just to dig this up, Tim Hetherington (Restrepo's director) has been killed in Libya today, was pronounced dead when he arrived at Misrata hospital after a mortar/RPG attack. RIP :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted April 20, 2011 h4qfYRUm0EM If you missed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dysta 10 Posted April 20, 2011 Just to dig this up, Tim Hetherington (Restrepo's director) has been killed in Libya today, was pronounced dead when he arrived at Misrata hospital after a mortar/RPG attack.RIP :( Dear god!!! SHELLED!! RIP... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icebreakr 3159 Posted April 20, 2011 STALKERGB: Heard that couple of hours ago, we've posted that locally. RIP, Tim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I heard of this with deep sadness. Rest In Peace Time Hetherington : 1970 – 2011 BBC Stories: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13154634 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13151490 Retrospective of his pictures: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/04/tim-hetherington-vanity-fair-portfolio-201104#slide=1 Some Esays about his work and life: http://mediaforeignpolicy.foreignpolicyblogs.com/tag/tim-hetherington/ Obituary: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/21/tim-hetherington-obituary Kind Regards All Walker Edited April 21, 2011 by walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 21, 2011 Is there any other good movies like Armadillo and Restrepo that are worth a watch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted April 22, 2011 it's always sad news when some good documentarist is lost ... the question is if they were using unID vehicles or clearly marked as PRESS ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) After that episode in Iraq with those guys taken out by the Apaches a few months ago you'd think the press guys would be extremely careful especially if you are imbedding yourself with the weaker side. Those guys in in Iraq were begging for trouble imbedding with insurgants and dressing in the same style of clothes with no PRESS markings. Their stupidy and careless behavior got other innocents killed. 13qWADMfQnQ Edited April 22, 2011 by jblackrupert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ziiip 1 Posted April 23, 2011 I doubt that mortar shells can tell the difference between press and freedom fighters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) I doubt that mortar shells can tell the difference between press and freedom fighters. I'm talking about being shoulder to shoulder imbedded with Insurgents or in this case the Rebels who despite UN air support are like it or not the little guys untrained, ill equipped amateurs. Ya you get great upclose footage but when their opponent brings the rain you're gonna regret it. The video of that press team in Iraq being lit up by Apaches it proof of that. The Apache pilots in that case were not at falult, the press guys were standing next to guys with at least 1 RPG and everyone else armed with AK's clearly trying to ambush the marines in the area. I think we called the future Taliban "Freedom fighters" during Russia's little tour of Afghanistan...... In 10....20 years will we be dealing with this new crop of "freedom fighters" who decide they want to go to war against the west once they gain power. Edited April 23, 2011 by jblackrupert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 23, 2011 The Reporters who were gunned down by the apaches weren´t in company of insurgents. There was one, or two men armed with AKs, their bodyguards. They didn´t wear that big PRESS Signbecause they feared (with reason) that they could get kidnaped by the insurgents. And the Apache Piliots did a mistake! They gunned down the man who stopped to help the injured, and his children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dysta 10 Posted April 23, 2011 The Reporters who were gunned down by the apaches weren´t in company of insurgents. There was one, or two men armed with AKs, their bodyguards. They didn´t wear that big PRESS Signbecause they feared (with reason) that they could get kidnaped by the insurgents. And the Apache Piliots did a mistake! They gunned down the man who stopped to help the injured, and his children. "Armed harm harmed unarmed, and armed harmless." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) The Reporters who were gunned down by the apaches weren´t in company of insurgents. There was one, or two men armed with AKs, their bodyguards. They didn´t wear that big PRESS Signbecause they feared (with reason) that they could get kidnaped by the insurgents. And the Apache Piliots did a mistake! They gunned down the man who stopped to help the injured, and his children. You'd have to blind not to see the guy carrying an RPG. it's visible in the early parts of the footage when they were in the open area. They were observed scoping out nearby Marines and the camera man was hiding behind walls beside them taking shots of the marines with a long lens camera. Assuming for second he was fearfull of kidnapping... The large camera he's holding with any extra gear would mark him as press to any potential kidnappers on the ground. It was that behavior and the no PRESS markets that got the apaches called in. You walk like a duck, quack like a duck, duck hunters are going to take notice Also. Apaches don't have the benefit of large computer monitors in their cockpit which viewers at home like us have. Edited April 23, 2011 by jblackrupert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted April 24, 2011 Yeah well they still gunned down the unarmed civilian who came to help. Let them explain that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted April 24, 2011 Urgh, the whole wikileaks/apache gun cam footage thing has been done to DEATH. Until you've done it yourself, you really cant comment on it. I'll just echo Dwardens comments - sucks to lose someone who's good at shedding a less hollywood-glamour light on things. RIP to all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted April 24, 2011 (edited) If you're working as a crossing guard it's advisible to wear a reflective vest. The same goes for war., dress appropriately for the occasion or stay home. Al-jazeera is in a competion with Al Arabiya. The networks in Europe and North America and craving closer, more grittier stuff. Photographers and journalists get paid BIG dollars to provide up close and personal footage of events like wars the closer you get, the bloodier more exciting the picture, the more money you get. These guys took huge risks and lost. Sometimes the quest for money overrides common sense. Not saying that about the guys in Libya but the boys in Iraq made some seriously bad choices. Journalists and photographers in war zones are esssentially no different the Private military contractors...... money Another example: http://www.newser.com/story/115489/japan-nuclear-plant-pays-jumpers-5000-a-day-for-high-risk-work-amid-radiation.html Edited April 24, 2011 by jblackrupert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites