Bulldogs 10 Posted December 2, 2010 Basically the current form is born on earth but it's DNA proves that the base strand that created this bacteria originated outside of earth, likely dumped by asteroid, also likely that the asteroid created the lake it was found in, and the toxic substances of the asteroid helped to form an ecosystem for it to survive. Without that basic ecosystem the bacteria would be like us trying to survive in a poisonous atmosphere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flash Thunder 10 Posted December 2, 2010 That tad bit at the end regarding Aliens thats the hook line and sinker for the publicity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted December 2, 2010 Basically the current form is born on earth but it's DNA proves that the base strand that created this bacteria originated outside of earth, likely dumped by asteroid, also likely that the asteroid created the lake it was found in, and the toxic substances of the asteroid helped to form an ecosystem for it to survive.Without that basic ecosystem the bacteria would be like us trying to survive in a poisonous atmosphere. actually i understood it exactly opposite it seem to originate from Earth 'O.....something' was the name while it's not different in metabolism it was able to replace it's key DNA element of phosphorous with arsenic which is major discovery because it's first and living proof of lifeform w/o phosphorous in it's DNA ever and it will change way how schoolbooks are written and broad our understanding how life can adapt or even how new life may form itself elsewhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cozza 24 Posted December 3, 2010 Sorry to burst your bubble but I doubt a 1 micrometer long bacteria would be able to become overloads of this planet..... ;) It will get in side of you. spreading arsenic into your body and poof. Your dead. or you turn into an arsenic monster feasting on human. Those clever aliens. Maybe they saw War of the Worlds and are using the small bacteria to get rid of us. then they show up :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveJA 12 Posted December 3, 2010 if scientists will find life than what will happen with god believes that god created human ?people will say - there is no god, there is no hell, so there is no sin, i can robe, steal, kill, rape - no punishment, so okay ) Sorry bud but . . . wut?? Im an atheist, even though i occasionally set light to kittens and murder school children, belive it or not, i dont wake up in the morning thinking this/\. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted December 3, 2010 It's a common fallacious argument that because our current laws are based on the ten commandments (which in itself isn't necessarily the case), anyone who does not believe in god must be a thieving, murdering nazi rapist from hell - and by extension that if someone could find definitive proof that god doesn't exist, the whole world would sink into anarchy. Fact is, most people nowadays don't steal everything they want and kill or rape everyone they meet because they know it would be wrong and have no desire to do so - or at the very least they know they could get cought and be severely punished for it. Not, however, because they fear the wrath of the almighty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfTournesol 956 Posted December 3, 2010 From the arsenic to the ten commandements, that's a long way to go :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted December 3, 2010 (edited) and by extension that if someone could find definitive proof that god doesn't exist, the whole world would sink into anarchy.Isnt that happening slow but sure regardless at the current time? Or is it that its not happening near you so then that's not the case?You have allot of disbelievers and funny enough we have a very corrupt system and future in the upper levels, it doesn't always have to be at the ground level and in your town to exist. You did mention "world" after all. most people nowadays don't steal everything they want and kill or rape everyone they meet because they know it would be wrong and have no desire to do soIs that ground level and people in your circle only then? Or "world"? Because from what I have seen in the "world" that isnt always the case.Anyway .... Interesting to see this find and how it unfolds. Edited December 3, 2010 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted December 3, 2010 Jeez, in these forums you really have to relativize everything you say before the nitpick brigade jumps down your throat. :rolleyes: Yes, by "world" I meant "western world". Please accept my sincerest apologies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted December 3, 2010 I think its pretty normal to make sure when making statements in this area via text to convey it right, pretty normal things with forums and all that. No one always states it right, Im not perfect, just took it for what I saw, Im sure at some point I will do it and people post about it, No neck jumping. BTW western world is currently over toward the east right now and its not looking rosey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted December 4, 2010 I think its pretty normal to make sure when making statements in this area via text to convey it right, pretty normal things with forums and all that. No one always states it right, Im not perfect, just took it for what I saw, Im sure at some point I will do it and people post about it, No neck jumping.BTW western world is currently over toward the east right now and its not looking rosey. No worries, mate. Was a little pissed off (for other reasons) when I wrote that post, so my reaction was a little more severe than necessary. ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) Pissed off? Thats not good sir, how about a little cheering up for everyone :popcornsmilie:: qymnHmsP67M Edited December 4, 2010 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) regarding some people's voices about "but you are atheist" yes, i also had in past some police job (also many of old friends were in police), now i am public servant in one inspection, i live in so called dangerous neighbourhood and i know one - for some people (cannot exactly say how many percentage) only punishment and fear is "honesty factor" for some people only fear of punishment is factor that make them live honest (and promise of heaven) , in wild conditions they show real nature (like wild animals when hungry) this is what i meant when i said about falling of religion if aliens found i met in life many people for whom only fear (law, police, punishment, hell vs heaven) was something that keeps them live not stealing or not cheating or not raping Edited December 4, 2010 by vilas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) this is what i meant when i said about falling of religion if aliens foundThere seems to be this notion that if aliens are found religion falls, as if people are completely sure of it. How about aliens are found people fall for it, people who never believed in anything fight with the ones who they dont agree with becuase they are "I told you so" ... and then the unrest stems from side taking?Divide and rule so to speak. I think anyone who believes nothing will then believe anything to justify believing nothing, all you then have to do is make them feel even stronger about believing nothing by shoving aliens into the picture so that will work (now oddly they believe in something to argue against the other who believed in something!?) then hey presto ... you have a nice big riot on your hands and in-fighting. So isn't aliens a new religion then? Because you would have to put belief into that. Or is this actually all about "seeing is believing" .. interesting. Edited December 4, 2010 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archamedes 10 Posted December 5, 2010 Is that ground level and people in your circle only then? Or "world"? Because from what I have seen in the "world" that isnt always the case.Anyway .... Interesting to see this find and how it unfolds. Nothing to do with my circle of people or anything like that, I was making a point what vilas said... "if people realise there is no heaven or hell, then there would be no means of punishment and would then cause them to go out and rape, rob and murder." I simply said but regardless of religion, people do that and always do that anyway, MOST of US tend to have common sense, know the difference between what is morally right and wrong and abide by the rules and laws of the land that prohibit the above crimes. The fact of the matter is even if a UFO landed on times square in front of thousands (providing the air force hadn't shot it down) and aliens walked out and introduced themselves as friendly visitors from another world. Could you imagine the anarchy it would cause? The church would fall apart, providing they dont dismiss the visitors as hellish ghouls here to sabotage our faith (its amazing the claims they come out with in order to protect the bible) non believers would kind of have to accept it and the rest of us who always believe would feel so much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrcash2009 0 Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) Archamedes .. my comments weren't directed to you just the post above :) Although ... The church would fall apart, providing they dont dismiss the visitors as hellish ghouls here to sabotage our faith (its amazing the claims they come out with in order to protect the bible)No proof to say they are the best of freinds even if they did walk out to say hello.non believers would kind of have to accept itWhy?and the rest of us who always believe would feel so much better. So those with faith in aliens who had the belief are ok and happy, with no real proof of it being friendly, non believers of anything put up or shut up over the believers and bible people who are saying that it might not be a good thing will crash and burn even though there's nothing to suggest it would be a good thing? So ... isn't that just a bunch of alien believers putting the boot into anyone else when proven its true with the "coming of the alien" .. and isn't that a complete contradictions and mirrored view of religion that most frown at?Still faith and belief with a different badge. I still refer to the video above to be honest. :) Ask yourself this, alien believers ... if this came about, how would they start to act? Edited December 6, 2010 by mrcash2009 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmAriffic 10 Posted December 6, 2010 need some x-files music Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-)rStrangelove 0 Posted January 3, 2011 It's impossible for an arsenic based lifeform to originate from earths building blocks meaning that the species originated on another planet. Yup, we are the elite of the universe, we know it all better dont we? Some years ago we thought creating a flying machine that is heavier as the air itself would be impossible. Go back some more: the earth was flat and center of the universe right? ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muahaha 10 Posted January 3, 2011 this is interesting... from Aliens to God to micro organism to atheist... One question I have in mind though... What makes you guys so strongly believing what you believes in now? Culture, education, history or self experience? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reconteam 19 Posted January 3, 2011 For me it would be, culture, history, and a general hatred of atheism. (9/10 atheists I meet behave like a**holes, no offense to the other 1/10) Regardless I fail to see how knowing aliens being out there would make any reasonable person start shouting "there is no God!" I've long believed that there is other life out there, the universe is just too damn big for us to be it. I fail to see how this conflicts with my belief in God. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whisper 0 Posted January 4, 2011 Science ^- This. Has shaped my beliefs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mosh 0 Posted January 4, 2011 this is interesting... from Aliens to God to micro organism to atheist... One question I have in mind though... What makes you guys so strongly believing what you believes in now? Culture, education, history or self experience? The older I get, and hopefully more educated, the more I lean away from religion (raised Catholic) and towards science as well. Don't take that as a knock against religion at all. I'm not 100% atheist... yet. I just believe in the thought that we are not alone. The universe is just too damn big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baff1 0 Posted January 4, 2011 I'm quite willing to believe in aliens. But there are only two types. Face huggers and buttfuckers. The ones that grab onto your face and impregnate you and the ones with the big eyes who beam you up onto their spaceship and examine you with the anal probe machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whisper 0 Posted January 4, 2011 The older I get, and hopefully more educated, the more I lean away from religion (raised Catholic) and towards science as well. Don't take that as a knock against religion at all. I'm not 100% atheist... yet.I just believe in the thought that we are not alone. The universe is just too damn big. I'm absolutely not atheist. Science is really not about being atheist or believer. Belief and knowledge are disjoint. But science as shown probable facts, probable enough to let me re-consider religions as we see them currently, and I can't follow most, of not all of them, anymore. Doesn't mean I'm atheist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites