NeoHazard 10 Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) Hello all, I've been having trouble during multiplayer gameplay. My joystick throttle is currently binded with the (Analog) Thrust control in the controls menu. I'm also using TrackIR and all of my other joystick commands are programmed as you would expect on a standard cheap saitek st290pro. The problem is this. I'll be flying a helicopter, any helicopter, and when I go to type to other players, I press the chat command and start typing, all of the sudden the helicopters collective goes down for whatever stupid reason even though it's maxed on the joystick and I begin to descend. It's sooo stupid. I even got some lame overly testy "squad" team pissy at me because I had hit the ground and lost a chopper because I was trying to communicate intentions. Whats up with this? EDIT: The way I have found to get around this now is to set the throttle stick Z+ amd Z- to Increase and Decrease thrust. it seems to work fine that way, no descent while typing. But I would still suggest fixing the analog(ue) selection for this. EDIT2: Also noticing that when I press ESC to go to the menu in the air while throttle is set to Analogue, the Helo starts descending. If I use the seperate bindings on my throttle stick, then press ESC for the menu, the Helo maintains level flight. I'll be sticking with seperate bindings thankyou very much.... Edited September 6, 2010 by NeoHazard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stk2008 14 Posted September 6, 2010 Use Mumble or in built VOIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeoHazard 10 Posted September 6, 2010 Use Mumble or in built VOIP. not an option at night sometimes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stk2008 14 Posted September 6, 2010 Ummmmm well I don't know then whisper :P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meek 10 Posted September 6, 2010 The "squad" team got pissy because you weren't using VOIP, not because you crashed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeoHazard 10 Posted September 6, 2010 The "squad" team got pissy because you weren't using VOIP, not because you crashed. ok, i dont need the attitude or useless comments unrelated to the matter. I'm reporting you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stk2008 14 Posted September 6, 2010 Hahahahahahahaha god damn it but he is probably speaking the truth. I mean if ya cant speak into a mic at night cus you still live at home and don't want to wake up mum and dad then what else can we suggest I mean really come on get a sense of humor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seelix 10 Posted September 6, 2010 Warriors dont chat.....they kill ! :coop: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beagle 684 Posted September 6, 2010 I can only really recommend VON..and a Button for VON on your Joystick..this safes virtual lives. The chrashing while typing occurs very, very, very often. VON is the most simple solution, and the only one next to TS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infam0us 10 Posted September 6, 2010 Learn to type quicker = Profit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperU2 11 Posted September 6, 2010 I use a joystick and don't have this issue, I also don't use a mic because I'm generally anti social. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=seany=- 5 Posted September 6, 2010 (edited) why is everyone saying use a mic?? its a bug don't try to pretend it isn't. cant we just get it fixed? Sure there is a "work around" (like all things in the BIS universe) but is it so hard to fix and acknowledge simple problem instead of berating the OP for not using a mic? ITS A BUG, it annoys and confuses new players, it makes the game feel clunky. You people always want to know "why is arma not popular?" well, it's partly because of stupid bugs like this that would take 2 seconds to fix. AFAIK this also happens when you open the map. Imo 1 thing that would be worth a thousand "Dev Heavens" would be for the devs to play online for a few hours every week. Bugs like this would jump out of the screen at them and we would have a much more fluid and enjoyable experience as a result. Edited September 6, 2010 by -=seany=- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeoHazard 10 Posted September 7, 2010 why is everyone saying use a mic?? its a bug don't try to pretend it isn't. cant we just get it fixed? Sure there is a "work around" (like all things in the BIS universe) but is it so hard to fix and acknowledge simple problem instead of berating the OP for not using a mic? ITS A BUG, it annoys and confuses new players, it makes the game feel clunky. You people always want to know "why is arma not popular?" well, it's partly because of stupid bugs like this that would take 2 seconds to fix.AFAIK this also happens when you open the map. Imo 1 thing that would be worth a thousand "Dev Heavens" would be for the devs to play online for a few hours every week. Bugs like this would jump out of the screen at them and we would have a much more fluid and enjoyable experience as a result. thankyou! jeez. haha, I remember playing with u on TAW server(i think) for a little while. one of the few people who was actually a legit player and not an A-hole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Defunkt 431 Posted September 7, 2010 why is everyone saying use a mic?? its a bug don't try to pretend it isn't. cant we just get it fixed? Fixed or not, few servers are going to welcome a player grabbing scarce air assets without the ability to use VOIP (for whatever reason). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperU2 11 Posted September 7, 2010 Yeah a lot of servers have their own ideas of how you should play, that's why I avoid playing with people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted September 7, 2010 Decrease thrust to 0% and hit Q before typing. Opening the map, ESC menu, chat box will disable thrust input from the Joystick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gossamersolid 155 Posted September 7, 2010 Yeah a lot of servers have their own ideas of how you should play, that's why I avoid playing with people. because people like to work together you avoid playing with them? Learn to be a part of a social activity, it's a natural function of humans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperU2 11 Posted September 7, 2010 because people like to work together you avoid playing with them? Learn to be a part of a social activity, it's a natural function of humans. I'm great in social settings, most players online are fucking assholes though. Not what I'd call a social setting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWAT_BigBear 0 Posted September 7, 2010 Maybe your in game name should be "Flying, can not type atm".:D If you told them, you should not have been asked questions while flying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperU2 11 Posted September 7, 2010 Back to the main topic, I can't duplicate this so there must be a reason it works fine for me and not for OP. I wouldn't say it's a bug if not everyone has the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted September 7, 2010 Bug or not, trying to type whilst you're supposed to be piloting a vehicle seems a pretty silly thing to attempt to do and no surprise it led to you crashing, if you must type rather than use VOIP it would seem logical to me that before you mount a vehicle you first type a message saying "can't use VOIP because it's late here so I cannot type whilst flying"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-)rStrangelove 0 Posted September 7, 2010 sorry i dont have any issue with typing while flying a heli. got a MS sidewinder pro FF but i think thats not important. i'd just study your aircraft control settings again, maybe you got something mixed up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HyperU2 11 Posted September 7, 2010 Bug or not, trying to type whilst you're supposed to be piloting a vehicle seems a pretty silly thing to attempt to do and no surprise it led to you crashing, if you must type rather than use VOIP it would seem logical to me that before you mount a vehicle you first type a message saying "can't use VOIP because it's late here so I cannot type whilst flying"? Well honestly I think pilots are quite capable of imputing data while flying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themaster303 22 Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) Bug or not, trying to type whilst you're supposed to be piloting a vehicle seems a pretty silly thing to attempt to do and no surprise it led to you crashing, if you must type rather than use VOIP it would seem logical to me that before you mount a vehicle you first type a message saying "can't use VOIP because it's late here so I cannot type whilst flying"? you are so right !! did you ever see a pilot typing in reallife while flying :D just go in autohover, type and than fly ahead. best solution is really to use ingamevoice, i mean its there for a reason ;) so you can control a vehicle 100% and talk mean- while. if you have to type, don´t type a novelle, just a short message. are you also typing when an enemy is shooting at you ?? oh and there is acre for radiosimulation, brings the game even further in communication !! http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=103472 Edited September 7, 2010 by themaster303 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted September 7, 2010 Well honestly I think pilots are quite capable of imputing data while flying. ArmA doesn't simulate full auto pilot + copilot so it's not a valid comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites