Admin must read this great idea...

[isrkomandosh13 10]

i dont mean ranked mission but GLOBAL RANK SYSTEM no matter wich server you play you will always stay the same rank for peoples know who they fight,hight ranked player or not,more faire then...

[Zipper5 74]

for peoples know who they fight,hight ranked player or not,more faire then...

Please elaborate.

[=wfl= sgt bilko 10]

The reason COD style public games attract the overwhelming majority as compared to ArmA (and e.g. PRmod for BF2) is that they allow for casual gaming. You jump in for 15 minutes and then go watch TV.

And that's fine if that's all you want. However I do believe that the majority of ArmA players want's more.

Personally I think there's a place for both types of "shooter" games (as opposed to MMO's). The more "specialized" games will always have a smaller player base.

Edited August 25, 2010 by =WFL= Sgt Bilko

[b0b 10]

No, not ranks!

Ranks are and should always remain controlled by the mission editor. If he wants a ranking system, he can make one by looking at how Evolution did it. Otherwise keep it the hell out of the game. As I said, I play MW2 a lot, and you can definitely see how building an in-built online ranking system for BIS' games would simply ruin it entirely.

This tbqfh .., i would hate to see ranking in game other than EVo style ranking. It causes retarded, non team oriented gameplay.., don't believe me just look at the other games that use it and tell me they are team oriented and tactical..., if anyone says "yes they are" then your in denial.

The whole persistent ranking/global stats things is just e-peen territory..., 1 of the many reasons i bought ArmA/2/OA, is to get away from all that crap.

[vilas 478]

Myke;1729195']Would you go into a chess forum and suggest to get rid off all those funny figures and replace them with poker cards? Would you suggest them not longer to play in separate' date=' quiet rooms but instead in smokey Bars? Hell, this would make chess so much more popular since you can find players in the bar right next to you. Anyone could play chess anywhere without much effort.

Darn, i'm tired to see that everything in the world (not only in gaming) is always made easier. Lessons in school too hard ? No problem, we make it easier. German grammar too complicated? Well, we had a "rework" of the german grammar lately. Everything is dumbed down everywhere and as a result, people become dumber all over the time. Instead of putting effort into learning the hard things, people just moan "mak it isier, i cant understand how it works".

Well, sit down, put some effort in learning, put some effort in doing things right.[/quote']

+1 for You

but the topic becomes irrational

"how to make Arma not as OFP but like CoDs"

i would vote for closing it , if someone doesnt like OFP/Arma (BIS) games, let he stay on CS, CoD, GR, SoF, MoH etc. and not spoil our game which functions good for mature players , not for kids

who need "global heroes gamers armchair commando" here :/

many Arma players in Polish community (no mater if i like them or not) are ASG players, who train in virtual battlespace , later in forest

we have here military personel, we have retired or disabled personel

they are not kids from "yea, shoot more" CS, CoDs etc.

i always hated guys who comes to for example metal show to say "turn off guitar, start singing silently about love and turn on electronic keyboard instead of drums"

you have your club with clubbing, stay there, there is Arma/OFP "military simulation wannabe game"

there are different missions in internet, go play them , but not force majority to listen to minority

if minority wants WW1 or Bulgarian army addons, than it will not change fact that majority wants US, UK or Russian modern addons and such addons you can download and such addons are in work by several addonmakers

the same to missions

if majority love missions they play and some newbies kids dont like them (cause they used to grow ego in CoD, CS) let they learn more or go away :)

most people here love this game for being military simulator, not by being ego-riser for rambo-wannabies

ranks... what for ??? to finish mission and finish objectives ???

what will give such rank ??? that some kid will come and say "you must show respect to big boss (me) " ???

nonsense

people play in clans, some are closed by password

why ???

because of such "i want rank" players

there is mission editor, there are clans, there is teamspeak

"my great idea" , heheh, funny title

how old is person who says "my idea is great, you must listen and do" ??

this game is rated +16 on box, are you older than 16 ???

cause more people here focus on team-play (like real squad in real army) than on rambo players

[=wfl= sgt bilko 10]

In RtCW/ET and earlier COD games, gameplay was all about attack/defend with a time limit - creating a necessity for teamplay.

Once achievements/perks were added to the mix (basically BF2 started the mass trend), gameplay turned into majority of the players more interested on getting next badge/perk rather than on teamwork.

When you see people typing in team chat "I'm only this far from a pistol badge, going to run pistol today" you know teamplay is crippled.

Still you can find decent games due to the amount of servers and good server admins. but I doubt we will see +10000 ArmA servers.

[celery 8]

i dont mean ranked mission but GLOBAL RANK SYSTEM no matter wich server you play you will always stay the same rank for peoples know who they fight,hight ranked player or not,more faire then...

So are you ok with people making a farming mission where they score points upon points by killing fish in a barrel or simply having the mission give them 1000000000000000000 points?

[polar bear 10]

"how to make Arma not as OFP but like CoDs"

What on earth are you talking about? I don't think ANYONE said that. You keep writing things like this even though nobody suggested it!

Edited August 25, 2010 by Polar Bear

[Evil_Echo 11]

Sigh...

What does ranking buy me? A slot on some stats server and nothing more. It does not and can not show my total contribution to a match nor reflect how well I played.

If I take the role of sniper/scout how well is any stats system going to be able to reflect the intel I got for the team by cautious moves and not shooting at anyone. How could you discern the difference between my helping target air-strikes, artillery strikes and squad movement vs some AFK slacker? How does it measure the risk I took creeping into position?

ArmA gives you choice via the mod system, but basically it's about realism and not some rinky-dink arcade with bells ringing when you score 1,000,000 points. I outgrew arcade games 34 years ago.

[isrkomandosh13 10]

ALSO please allow player to rate each server beacause there too many insult/racism/TK etc... 5 stars = good no insult/good team/play ,1 stars = bad server , insult, etc...

[celery 8]

ALSO please allow player to rate each server beacause there too many insult/racism/TK etc... 5 stars = good no insult/good team/play ,1 stars = bad server , insult, etc...

Obvious troll is obvious.

[vilas 478]

ALSO please allow player to rate each server beacause there too many insult/racism/TK etc... 5 stars = good no insult/good team/play ,1 stars = bad server , insult, etc...

hahahaha

and who will be rating servers ???

it is like with rating addons, when someone whom you refused to give MLODS and copy-rights , comes to other sides and ranks addon by 0

cause he is angry , because he wanted "re release" your hard work under his own tag, so he keeps on bashing addon quality later... i know at least 5 such guys :/ they are first to rate addon on download site

and rating server ??? heheh, what criteria ???

join clan, if any clan wants you or needs you and you will have friendship gaming among/within clan :)

public servers will not help you when you will have not-mature kid player, clan will help you

many many people repeat the same, this is not CoD

2 users, who joined in 2010 want it to be CoD type MP with points collecting ?

maybe you can do poll and ask question

i wonder how you will feel in 95% will say "no" ???

at the moment count voices here, for and against, what is proportion here in this topic

??

than start pool and say the same "add rating points for MP, add saving points no matter how get (as Celery said), add rating servers by insults they use"

many people here shown it is nonsense , because in mission not killing is important, but for example collecting info or blowing up empty tank in enemy base

Quake or CS gaming style is here not often played

and rating is senseless when people play in "team work"

[maddogx 13]

The only rating system I could see working is one where you can only give a + or nothing. When people can give negative ratings, it will always be abused.

[Zipper5 74]

Obvious troll is obvious.

^this.

It's obvious now that he's just trolling. Leave him be.

[R0adki11 3949]

or better still wait for an Moderator to bring back into line.

[Gunter Severloh 4088]

I have played COD and those other games, but not for very long i also have played Red orchestra since it came out and lead a 20+ player historical WW2 Realism Unit, going to Matches, and realism campaigns and Tournoments, was fun in its time.

But i have always played OFP, Arma,Arma 2, and made my own missions, and still do, what i come to find out, well I knew this anyways but reading this thread, made me realize and maybe its stupid from this thread but in all in its entireity the thing that makes our game OFP,A1,A2,OA exciting and more so then any other game is that the community of modders keep making missions, addons, mods, scripts, and features to the game that makes our game so much better then anything anyone can come up with.

The Bethseda's Game Oblivion's community does this too, but like in the OFP days when we only had OFP, it was like christmas everyday i was excited to be on OFP.info and see all the stuff that everyone was making and released, I think, lol and still have at least 10+Gigs of addons and mods as well as on disc of OFP stuff, as well as Arma and now Arma 2 on my computer;):D

That is what i am talking about, can COD do this?, can battlefield do this, can any other game do this? other then Oblivion and maybe another?

Should I care? no, the point being is that the people that play the game are creative, intelligent, imaginative, and guys that are intrigued by the complexity, and simulation as well as what the game has to offer, there is a reason we play this game, a reason we gravitate to this game more then others that dont have or play like BIS games do.

Im attracted to this game based on what I can do in it!

that says alot,This game is community it makes the game better then it is, I may spend $50 for Arma game but I get 10+ yrs replayability, vs another game where you pay $50 and get a few days out of it, and mayb you only play MP in it, all depends, but games attract their own kind.

Edited August 25, 2010 by Gnter Severloh

[kremator 1065]

I take it from your name that you are 13. Figures.

Not interested in gathering stats.

[ben_s 11]

I prefer SP/COOP anyways, so this wouldn't mean a thing to me ^^

[TechnoTerrorist303 10]

I stopped reading. OP likes playing Arma 2 but wants it to be a Battlefield game? Wat?

FPDR

[isrkomandosh13 10]

YES,i want it like battlefield !!!!!!!!!!!!! beacause arma 2 has EVERYTHING for be the BEST BATTLEFIELD GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take care BIS maybe you can release a battlefield/arma 2 version for players looking for realism AND fun !!!!

[Gunter Severloh 4088]

Why dont you learn how to edit missions and script and make your own missions

that play out like battlefield, BIS aint going to change a thing becaue one guy asks them too,

even for suggestions, they do what they do best on their own accord,

and personally I think they have been doing a fine job since OFP.

Thats the real catch you seem to be missing about this game is that its a sandbox simulator,

you can build your own game te way you want, go to Armaholic here:

http://www.armaholic.com/index.php

and browse the download section and build your own game like 90% of the players do that like the editor.

the editor is not hard to learn, its fairly easy compared to most editors, and best of all theres 3 types of editors, if not more.

There are no limits in this game, just you and your imagination, this is what BIS intended,

why else put an editor that has such simpleness to it yet it has a complexity to it as well.

Edited August 26, 2010 by Gnter Severloh

[[frl]myke 15]

YES,i want it like battlefield !!!!!!!!!!!!! beacause arma 2 has EVERYTHING for be the BEST BATTLEFIELD GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take care BIS maybe you can release a battlefield/arma 2 version for players looking for realism AND fun !!!!

ArmA 2 is realism and fun. If you want to play battlefield style..well, then i suggest you go play Battlefield.

[Zipper5 74]

YES,i want it like battlefield !!!!!!!!!!!!! beacause arma 2 has EVERYTHING for be the BEST BATTLEFIELD GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! take care BIS maybe you can release a battlefield/arma 2 version for players looking for realism AND fun !!!!

Then go play Battlefield. ;)

Perhaps you should check out what Project Reality are doing for Arma 2 if you need Arma 2 to resemble Battlefield this badly.

[TechnoTerrorist303 10]

isrkomandosh13 you should check out advance and secure or other gametypes that are pretty much BF type.

Arma2 does not need its own friends system, I think it's safe to assume that if you're intelligent enough to play Arma 2 then you're intelligent enough to download Xfire, Skype, Steam, MSN or any other IM application to talk to your new friends and ask them what server they're on.

I don't think BIS have the resources to setup and maintain a central user database for what you're asking, just think in RL terms about all the millions of database transactions that would be going on during a day as people play, rank up, add friends etc.

Fortunately BIS are not EA and that is why this is very unlikely to ever happen.

/Thread

[Gunter Severloh 4088]

I don't think BIS have the resources to setup and maintain a central user database for what you're asking

I agree, i think BIS should keep its objectives on fixing the issues on the issue tracker,

as well as improving what we already got, once that is done then upgrade the engine to Arma3 down the road.

Anything that detours them from their current focus is what hurts us players in the long run

as we will still will be dealing with issues not being fixed ect., we dont want BIS to turn CM on us

and go run cuz they cant deal with the over whelming

what they call a game a complete fuckup.