soldier2390 0 Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) UPDATE: check out my xfire screen shots of the updated textures n models...textures are still very W.I.P.! USAF HH-53M: http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/f232a507dd338a3473b32ca3f4b2d29e4cc8e56e.png USN MH\CH-53E: http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/7c6a55e68bcb6b4e95bb4156efa125a6296de205.png still got to add more wear n tear and dirt to them, and some more markings! soon there be here in arma2 Edited August 29, 2009 by soldier2390 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vengeance1 50 Posted August 29, 2009 Keep it up coming along very nicely! ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco 944 Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) Figured I'd go ahead and put my .2 cents in. Nice MH-53, looks damn good. CH-53E doesn't have the large sponsons like the MH-53, and it has one IR camera on the left if you're aft looking forward and the refueling rod on the right. MH-53E = Navy CH-53E = Marine Corps Edit: Go ahead and decrease the angle of the exhaust on the #1 and #3 engines too, they aren't quite that bent. If you need any more help let me know, I work around these birds Mon-Fri. Edited August 29, 2009 by AndeUSMC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cionara 10 Posted August 29, 2009 Got the flight behaviour fixed meanwhile ? It looks perfect in ArmA 2 only needs to fligh more realistically => Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) ill try to work on the flight enovlope(determines how it flys) to have it more realilisticly! but gachopin has to fix the rest...im only a noob with configs! also i just nearly finished up the navy texture(and they match the bis cobras textures great), will release what i have so far of just the updated textures soon, will release the whole thing soon after i fix a few things and talk to gachopin agian! Edited August 29, 2009 by soldier2390 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cionara 10 Posted August 29, 2009 Thank ya sounds great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miles teg 1 Posted August 30, 2009 Fantastic work guys. Great to see the community all working together on important addons like this one!!! I second the notion also about making a USAF MH-53 PaveLow (what I consider the ultimate CH-53 variant as far as capability and pure bad-ass'ness). But I guess the other USMC variants would be easiest and quickest to make. I hope to see some with the side fuel tanks and refueling probe. It would make the perfect companion for the BI Super Cobra and UH-1N. Keep up the great work guys!!! Chris G. aka-Miles Teg<GD> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) great new i already mande the usaf one(comes in same color shade as the new navy\usmc ones have made) i already made the refuel probe..and made adjustments to the model(adding the mission parts of the left wheel fixing a few things that didnt cenect right..and many other things) also i have made a dark green color for the usaf one(which when i was in the usaf our CSAR unit used them as our rescue\spec ops birds) i also added the full proper usaf markings and navy\usmc ones to the new navy\usmc textures! now i cant make packs(as i cant do mulitpule addon configs...ei like my seahawks pack) so i just included all other textures in a back up folder in side the textures folder! so far heres what i have. MH-53E=USN updated original textures(included in the back up folder), plus new starderd light blue\grey color(origianl usn\usmc colors) CH-53E=USMC uses new usn\usmc textures(with full proper usmc markings) HH-53M=USAF uses new usaf textures(with full proper usaf markings) and dark od green textures(included in the back up folder) and has the re-fuel probe...im very sad to annonce we(usaf) no longer use the h-53e's...sadly the last ones were decomissioned dec. 08'....but in my heart it still lives on...so will it in arma too..lol...long live my beloved jolly greens!!!! more to come: i do plan on adding the extra fuel tanks but i need help...miles teg...im gonna hit you up on msn in a bit bud, i may need you! also i plan on adding the top part of the ramp doors(as the usaf spec-ops ones use them doors as seen on the helo now, from what i saw in the usaf)..iv been trying to make it float but nothing works...it still sink(but it dont take damage intill after 5mins..lol) iv tryed using canFloat=1....and canFloat=true, but nothing works PIC'S NOW THESE ARE OF ARMA1! i dont have a2, so i cant take pics of them in a2, but the textures are for both a1 & a2! both the new navy n usaf one(still need to re-text the rotor blades and system...which i fixed last nite) http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/0ae33f9d7ba65d32fac4059712ac6c77641c7d8f.png New Navy Textures(Inflight) http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/c196e406b1513a39a0f44e99cab2181b871a9c57.png New USAF Textures(Inflight) http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/9701e82fc9e787a8b816bddaa6d79dd5b0176efe.png New USAF Textures(Upclose) http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/1a02b3ef2f78e19d221361c0a1eaa7119b55fcfe.png p.s. look threw the rest of my screen shots got more pics there and on the way....so if you want to know whats being updated check my xfire screen shots! http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/soldier2390/ Edited August 30, 2009 by soldier2390 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco 944 Posted August 30, 2009 Do you plan on making an actual CH-53E or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 30, 2009 well from what i know and seen(remember i was usaf not navy or marines) but there is no real differences between them, exept for electronics! also there classnames(mh\ch\hh) have more to do with there missions designations... as most of the hh-53s we in the usaf used were for search n rescue and spec ops type stuff! as the same with the s-70 versions(blackhawks) most mh-60\hh-60s are used for search&rescue and spec ops missions! but to anwser your question..yeah i plan on making the usmc one an official ch-53e! as the only real difference is the navy uses mostly mh models and usmc uses mostly ch models! but remember this......all veriants(like anything else) are just minor differences and wither its for usn or usmc...there part of the same branch, and iv heard of navy helos working with marines and marines working with the navy guys! but again yeah...and it will have its proper usmc markings! im gonna try to make the new navy texture a bit more on the whitish grey side instead of the usmc bluish grey! as most navy aircraft have a tad slighter difference in color(as for usn mh-53es, from what i have seen they come in a few colors..the usmc type color..like on my seahawks, and the dark purplish grey(like what the origianl color was) infact here is a pic of the real helo that gachopin made his model off of(which great job on that by the way) http://www.flickr.com/photos/11511707@N05/3537645370/ and i have made the original texture(made by gachopin) to look more like the one in the pic above! including adding the same amount of wear & tear as on the new textures i made! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco 944 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) I know about your variants, etc, I'm an active duty Marine that works on the engines of these birds. This is our CH-53E. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5262/081225m1876j006.jpg Sponsons are much smaller, you have a reserve tank on each sponson, and you're fuselage isn't as fat/rounded in the back as your model. Example of the reserve tanks on the side of the sponsons http://www.blueaero.com/Portals/1/CH-53_Super_Stallion%5B1%5D.jpg Edit: Found some shots of a model to give you the idea between the differences. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-2-1.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-3.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-4.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-5.jpg I'd love to get some texture shots for you but photography is extremely prohibited on the flightline. Edited August 30, 2009 by AndeUSMC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 30, 2009 (edited) I know about your variants, etc, I'm an active duty Marine that works on the engines of these birds.This is our CH-53E. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5262/081225m1876j006.jpg Sponsons are much smaller, you have a reserve tank on each sponson, and you're fuselage isn't as fat/rounded in the back as your model. Example of the reserve tanks on the side of the sponsons http://www.blueaero.com/Portals/1/CH-53_Super_Stallion%5B1%5D.jpg Edit: Found some shots of a model to give you the idea between the differences. http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-2-1.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-3.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-4.jpg http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/ted-taylor/academy-ch-53e-5.jpg I'd love to get some texture shots for you but photography is extremely prohibited on the flightline. thanks man being ex-usaf i know the rules of no pics on the flightlines so thanks anyways, i got planty tho! yeah i know the physical differences between them(sorry for got to mention) i just not that good with o2 editing yet, but i will get around to it(now i see what you meant by is it gonna be a real usmc one) also guys remember this is not my addon, im just volunteering to do this stuff for Gachopin! look out the birds are incoming...pop smoke..over!!! Also thanks for serving our country bud...soldiers for life Edited August 30, 2009 by soldier2390 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staker 10 Posted August 31, 2009 is it possible that you'll had 2 pilots for more realistic gameplay? of course that the other one won't do anything but when I load troops on the chopper one always sits in the co pilot sit and thats annoying.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 31, 2009 is it possible that you'll had 2 pilots for more realistic gameplay?of course that the other one won't do anything but when I load troops on the chopper one always sits in the co pilot sit and thats annoying.. sure...for the usaf one ill add a medic! and the navy ill just add another pilot(its up to what ppl want pilot\medics either way its esay to add), also i made special pilots to go with my seahawks pack(one navy pilot one usaf) and the navy guy gots light blue gear\vest n helmet, n dark blue for the usaf guy! but this aint my addon so if ppl want my guys(which i plan to release anyways) and gachopin says its ok ill incoperate them into the pack! Also the textures are about 98% done, im gonna send everything i got to gachopin, so he can make them into a pack, or as seprate addons! and i just think its fair i re-release them back to him so he can fix what he wants changed(as i fixed the classnames to be more short and organized..ei...usaf_hh53e\usn_mh53e....instead of gac_uscm_mh53e) but i recomend keeping them as i made them as it saves mb's and is easyer toi work with but again its his addon not mine! all i have to do is make the usn\usmc ones a tab bit lighter shade of blueish grey to match the bis cobra a bit better! but i can just fix that later then just upload the new ones here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted August 31, 2009 (as i fixed the classnames to be more short and organized..ei...usaf_hh53e\usn_mh53e....instead of gac_uscm_mh53e) You "fixed" them by taking away the important tag?? Its not recommendable at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 31, 2009 You "fixed" them by taking away the important tag?? Its not recommendable at all. why not? how does it help? it does'nt! and from what i know it does nothing but create more space! but its not up to us its up to gachopin, and if he wants them as how he made it, then he can have it as that! now..im not im not calling you out or trying to be mean or anything, im just trying to do all this work for the comunity...and as its not my addon i dont have to be doing this for everyone, but yet i work hard for a long time on this, so if your ways is "better" ie dont hurt nothing then by all means your right and it will stay how it was before! again no worrys man, remember im doing this for the comunity...so just try to enjoy...i mean no harm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted August 31, 2009 Dont worry! :) But the tag system is very important! This is the first and therefor the only mh53e, so it "doesnt matter". Until another guy wants to build his uscm version and then the name uscm_mh53e is taken. The tag makes this addon unique so it doesnt get overwritten by another pbo or another addon name. You can read more here: http://www.ofpec.com/tags/ So all addonmakers should register their own tag. For example the tag usmc_ is already taken by phaeden, so you renaming it to usmc_ in the beginning tells us its phaedens addon.. My tag is andy_. If anyone uses another persons tag it can lead to incompability (+ it is bad manner). This is an old system from OFP times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snake Man 407 Posted August 31, 2009 (as i fixed the classnames to be more short and organized..ei...usaf_hh53e\usn_mh53e....instead of gac_uscm_mh53e) Big mistake. Perhaps take a deep breath, control your enthusiasm and learn something about editing addons before just plugging away in the dark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) Big mistake.Perhaps take a deep breath, control your enthusiasm and learn something about editing addons before just plugging away in the dark. I have my enthusiasm under control..i just needed a simple answer that's all, not a big deal..i just wanted to know why, so it could help me out! so i can get these to the community...so we can all just have fun with out any problems and thanks for the nice explanation that helped! CLASSNAMES..now fixed properly with "gac" at the beginning! Edited August 31, 2009 by soldier2390 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiltman 3 Posted August 31, 2009 Ok, from what ive learned from reading forums and all that, correct me if im wrong. but the "TAG" gac_ is like a unique id for the addon you make, so if someone else makes the same heli with same classname usaf_hh53e, they wont crash/cancel eachother out.. and you would be able to use both. as i learned thats one of the reasons to put the tag on all class names. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted September 1, 2009 Ok, from what ive learned from reading forums and all that, correct me if im wrong.but the "TAG" gac_ is like a unique id for the addon you make, so if someone else makes the same heli with same classname usaf_hh53e, they wont crash/cancel eachother out.. and you would be able to use both. as i learned thats one of the reasons to put the tag on all class names. thanks but this delay is setting me back alot as i got to re-do all this sh@t now! and i got sum wrong in the config cause the rotor blades are all messed up! im bout to just send gachopin the textures and my updated models then let him finish the rest...all he would have to do is change everything from gac_USMC_MH53E to gac_USN_MH53E! so this will delay the release a few days till gachopin finishes the rest...well i hope everyone will enjoy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raptor 6 actual 13 Posted September 1, 2009 @Soldier Thanks for all you and Gachopin have done here with this helo. We all have to learn, and not to make you feel bad, but I've learned something before I went and did it. Again, you've done a great job, just take it in stride, and you'll just be able to take this into your experience on the next addon you work on. DON'T GIVE UP. Will look forward to more progress. Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soldier2390 0 Posted September 1, 2009 @SoldierThanks for all you and Gachopin have done here with this helo. We all have to learn, and not to make you feel bad, but I've learned something before I went and did it. Again, you've done a great job, just take it in stride, and you'll just be able to take this into your experience on the next addon you work on. DON'T GIVE UP. Will look forward to more progress. Cheers. no worrys man..im not giving up..or getting mad! im good to go...and i have tryed to study this stuff, but everyones different i learn from trail n error...but maby i should have done a tab bit more research..my only problem was that i was a lil confused about the whole classname consept, but im all good now, thanks to several people! the problem was there was a file that was missing, and gachopin is gonna fix it all! now even tho i have full permissions from him to do what i want(evening adding my own classnames) but i have been thinking about it and it would be best to just have one pack instead of multiple addons, so i kindly asked him to take my vesrions and incorperate it into a pack with his(and his classnames...to keep it simple for me to continue to work on them) which i fully intend to stick around and help gachopin out on these and even releasing updates in the future, and keeping them in a pack and in the same classnames will help me to work on them more easy! but i do want to say sorry if i did seem a lil out of place earlier..i was just tired and had a long day, and to think about having to redoing all of it...after a long time working on it(all day n nite when im not working in RL since they were first released) was kinda a hugh buzz kill! but its all good now...keep an eyes out ill be back around once these updates are released, and that way i can focus on just working on the models and fixing all the other problems. @snakeman...sorry bud if i seemed like i was directing my slight bit of anger at you, we've been cool for awhile now and i got mad repect for you so i mean no harm man! good day all! hopefuly you guys will get to see my seahawk pack soon as well! Dave, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{G&L}ACF{SCOTDG} 10 Posted September 1, 2009 any chance of adding door guns to this bird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites