Delaying the bear, AI unresponsive

[Gryphonheart 10]

I cannot even install the 1.02 patch (to be even able to play the Delaying the Bear mission), because of some invalid addons/air2.pbo file or so (I didn't made any own changes to the game). How symbolic..

Edited June 28, 2009 by Westmoreland

[mickeyc 10]

having same problems anyone know were i can find the hotfix thats being talked about, thanks.

[cuppa 0]

yea whats this 1.02 hotfix ,,,same problem as every1 else

[stun 5]

It is the latest build of the 1.02 patch (build 58134). It has had some additions since the original 1.02 patch was released.

[USSRsniper 0]

Have the same problem on "Dogs of War", all other missions ran fine, but this one :rolleyes: Have the hotfix installed.

[rrohde 10]

I just now got into the "delaying the bear" and "badlands" missions of the single player campaign, and, just like everyone else said before, the team AI is dead...

What a letdown!

[EricM 0]

Got the 1.02 hotfixed. No problem here for Delaying the Bear (Note : I didn't cheat in the previous missions either).

I'm just surprised it's so short... I Got ambushed, got out of the truck killed 1 or 2 guys and went to the new rally points a few hundred meters away and meet the other napa guys and it ended with a victory, even stating that I had destroyed an UAV...

It was way too easy/short. A bit disapointed... I loved the fog and early morning atmosphere...

[linnx88 10]

Hmm so there's a 1.02 hotfix?!? Why doesn't BI put a sticky here about it?!

I got the Gamers Gate version and it already came updated to 1.02....so i can't uninstall it. Can I install the hotfix on top of it? Because my AI does not work in Delaying the Bear nor Badlands nor Dogs of War.

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Ok so the only way to fix these problems it seems is for me to download a CD version somewhere, use a crack and then patch to the latest version.....Nice job BI!

[subliminalss 12]

Hmm so there's a 1.02 hotfix?!? Why doesn't BI put a sticky here about it?!

I got the Gamers Gate version and it already came updated to 1.02....so i can't uninstall it. Can I install the hotfix on top of it? Because my AI does not work in Delaying the Bear nor Badlands nor Dogs of War.

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Ok so the only way to fix these problems it seems is for me to download a CD version somewhere, use a crack and then patch to the latest version.....Nice job BI!

i dont think they've released the version for the DirectDld games it will prob auto update in the next few days if its anything like steam, and if you try and download a crack version will prob take that long anyway.

[linnx88 10]

i dont think they've released the version for the DirectDld games it will prob auto update in the next few days if its anything like steam, and if you try and download a crack version will prob take that long anyway.

Ok so apparently after doing a bit of research myself I found that the easiest solution is to get the DVD version for those who don't have the game yet and stay FAR away from the download versions.

The downloaded versions come pre-patched with BI's buggy 1.02.58064 which has all of the AI problems mentioned in other threads. You cannot uninstall that patch and you cannot patch with 1.02.58134 over it. I found a solution however.

I had to find a clone-cd versions online and download that, use a daemon tools + Yasu tools to hide from starforce and I simply used the CD-KEY i got from GamersGate and that worked like a charm!

The Delaying the Bear mission AI started working, however the mission "Badlands" is still bugged and the AI is unresponsive just as before. After NAPA stops talking, my team mates do not respond to any of my commands even though they acknowledge them.

:rolleyes:

[Whisky_Delta 0]

I just got Delyaing the Bear and indeed like everyone else, i ahve the dead AI bug.

Its unfortunate really, as i beleive Arma2 could well be one of the best games i have played (when it works) There have been some moments where i jus tthink that was so cool, yet the community is being let down by poor testing, management and support.

I am starting to realise that Arm2 is just goign to be a rollercoaster of dissapointment, and even die hard loyal fans, once OFP2 is launched will convert back to OFP. I now this is pure speculation, but i Codemasters would never release a game in this condition.

Well done BI, i know VBS2 is a raging success, but i think you have in one swoop, made a lot of loyale fans regret paying for the game.

Regards

Whisky

[EricM 0]

Note : the hotfix can be installed even if the previous 1.02 was already installed. It says "1.02 is already installed", but it does apply the hotfix anyway and your game gets upgraded to 1.02.58134 (I have german download version).

[Zipper5 74]

I'm quite the loyal fan and I love ArmA II, despite the bugs. In fact, I haven't encountered a single bug in the singleplayer campaign yet, and I've played it through many times to get the different endings. I don't regret purchasing it at all.

[Whisky_Delta 0]

So how can some players not have this dead AI bug, yet people lke Zipper5 can play throughout no problem? Have you patched it? This AI issue cant be down to hardware differences either, unlike the performance issues of Arma2

Regards

Whisky

[EricM 0]

Have you patched it to 1.02.58134 ? Manhattan, Delaying the bears and badlands work without problems for me. If you have patched it AFTER you started the mission, you might have to restart the mission completely as your saved game could conflict with the new version.

[eirulan 10]

I'm quite the loyal fan and I love ArmA II, despite the bugs. In fact, I haven't encountered a single bug in the singleplayer campaign yet, and I've played it through many times to get the different endings. I don't regret purchasing it at all.

You were very very lucky.

I encountered some huge problems, as many others,

Which version of the game did you buy?

- Boxed or Downloaded?

- German or other nation?

Thanks

Edited July 6, 2009 by eirulan

[no use for a name 0]

I just played this mission for the first time and (maybe) have a problem. After the mission started I loaded up with some extra weapons/ammo in the crate then went to the trucks that are supposed to take us to the ambush. I get my team in the truck, but the technical escort doesn't move, and the truck I'm in tries to go around it by doing a 200-point turnaround. This usually makes us go into the trees in the forest and get stuck.

I haven't tried replaying from the start yet, so I'll give that a shot later.

Funny because I had absolutely no problems up until this point with failed triggers or even crashes

I am starting to realise that Arm2 is just goign to be a rollercoaster of dissapointment, and even die hard loyal fans, once OFP2 is launched will convert back to OFP. I now this is pure speculation, but i Codemasters would never release a game in this condition.

Well done BI, i know VBS2 is a raging success, but i think you have in one swoop, made a lot of loyale fans regret paying for the game.

Regards

Whisky

that's laughable, any die hard fan as you call them can see past the small flaws in the single player (that will almost certainly get fixed in the future) and enjoy the game for the addons, editor, and multiplayer experience. To me the single player is just something a little extra since I have very little editing skills. I realize this isn't the same for everyone; but I highly doubt the fans of the series will "convert" to OFP2 just because it's stable, it's all about the gameplay.

I'll probably even buy OFP2 just cause it does look pretty cool and I'm curious to see what they do with it; but I will always like Arma more; bugs or not

Edited July 6, 2009 by No Use For A Name

[eirulan 10]

To me the single player is just something a little extra since I have very little editing skills.

Well, if you call "funny" AI unresponsive, sudden mission ending (with apparent no reason"), artillery script not working...etc...etc.........ok you can enjoy the game.

But If spend 45 Euros for a game, I PRETEND quality.

I bought it mainly for the SP campaign, even if in the past I edited a lot of mission for OFP or ArmA.

Now I do not have time (job absorbs me a lot).

As Bohemia, You cannot do advertising on the SP, when you know it is so heavily bugged or inconsistent.

By the way, I'm playing through the campaign and having some fun, but i'm very sad for the programming errors I have encountered.

Imagine Half Life 2 with the same bugs: impossible. This is what I call quality.

Finally, I also edited a mission in ArmA 2 and appreciated the AI module. This is the best asset of the "game" (or better to say "program").

Edited July 6, 2009 by eirulan

[no use for a name 0]

Well, if you call "funny" AI unresponsive, sudden mission ending (with apparent no reason"), artillery script not working...etc...etc.........ok you can enjoy the game.

But If spend 45 Euros for a game, I PRETEND quality.

I bought it mainly for the SP campaign, even if in the past I edited a lot of mission for OFP or ArmA.

Now I do not have time (job absorbs me a lot).

As Bohemia, You cannot do advertising on the SP, when you know it is so heavily bugged or inconsistent.

By the way, I'm playing through the campaign and having some fun, but i'm very sad for the programming errors I have encountered.

Imagine Half Life 2 with the same bugs: impossible. This is what I call quality.

Finally, I also edited a mission in ArmA 2 and appreciated the AI module. This is the best asset of the "game" (or better to say "program").

and obviously you didn't read my whole post. This was MY view on it, as I stated "I realize this isn't the same for everyone; but I highly doubt the fans of the series will "convert" to OFP2 just because it's stable, it's all about the gameplay." I was simply saying that the true fans won't just give up on the game and go play OFP2...

And an update, I reverted to the very start of Delaying the Bear and it worked.

oh, and for the record...Half Life 2 might have been stable but the game sucked, especially the story. Same 'ol hero falls in love with some random chick that didn't have anything to do with the first Half Life etc.

That's why I deal with the problems in the Arma series because of the gameplay

Edited July 7, 2009 by No Use For A Name

[Archamedes 10]

I am not happy I had to endmission the final 3 levels to which i fell cheated and the game was completely spoiled due to bugs. Its unforgivable that this was released for sale withot picking up the no responsive bug in delaying the bear. did they just test the first few missions and just got lazy? Its incomplete and you are not getting the quality you are paying for. You don't go out and buy a BMW only to find that it has half an engine, so why buy a game that hasn't been finished? What about the people who owna pc and dont have the inernet to get a patch and yes there are surprisingly a lot of people out there that dont have internet. They will play this and take it back to the shop.

[SpunKer 10]

Ok, so, does anyone knows if a hotfix will be released soon in order to finish those three missions properly ?

Edited July 8, 2009 by SpunKer

[hypergeek 10]

Just wanted to add my two cents - i had exactly the same issue (that carried through to the next mission)... however i have just installed ARMA 2 Update 1.02.58134 and that fixed it; I just reloaded the mission and Team Razor now do exactly as ordered.

Now I can get back to the game that I have been thoroughly enjoying... I gave ARMA a savage review that was printed (in part) in PCZone - I was so disappointed in that game. The OFP that we all know and love was a flawed classic and I think some people should remember that before being so vicious in their criticism of ARMA2.

Sure, there are some bugs (small and large)... but in a game of this breadth and scope is it really that surprising? This is not COD!

Reading this forum I would say that around 80% of the issues people are bitching about are not real bugs, just frustration because the objectives are not clearly sign-posted with big neon lights... you actually have to exercise a little patience, thought and take the time to figure it out - you actually have to look for the enemy rather that know that they will appear around the next scripted corridor after you have been corralled there by the level designer.

I feel I could go on defending this game and start ridiculing people who complain, but I realise that I would rather get back to playing it... if those people want to continue baying for the blood of the developers then I'll leave them to waist their time and money.

Great job Bohemia, a truely wonderful game that makes up for ARMA (I was disappointed) and sends me right back to the sheer joy I had playing the demo to OFP on my PCZone coverdisk... only this time with everything turned up to 11.

[mikupoiss 0]

Sure, there are some bugs (small and large)... but in a game of this breadth and scope is it really that surprising? This is not COD!

Reading this forum I would say that around 80% of the issues people are bitching about are not real bugs, just frustration because the objectives are not clearly sign-posted with big neon lights... you actually have to exercise a little patience, thought and take the time to figure it out - you actually have to look for the enemy rather that know that they will appear around the next scripted corridor after you have been corralled there by the level designer.

What the hell???

BIS should have learned from ArmA that releasing a game that needs 6 patches to have a decent playing value is no-go.

And not real bugs? I say that when completing all objectives and still not getting over with the mission or guys just not responding is pretty dam buggy. Maybe, really, I have to wait like 2 days and then the guys move. I'm just no that patient enough.

[hypergeek 10]

Well mikupoiss,

I say that "when completing all objectives and still not getting over with the mission or guys just not responding" fits neatly in the 20% I reserved for it.

I didn't slate ARMA bacause it was buggy, I didn't find it buggy - it was just rubbish; dull story and missions, unrealistic scenarios - there was really only one mission I enjoyed and that made any real sense... apart from at the end being sent alone to take out a T80 on the bridge, that was a bit too Rambo.

[acerjacks 10]

Ok so with a bit of cajoling (the swictcharoo fix) I can get the other members of my team in to the lorry, but I can't enter (as the leader) all I get is the gun/gear icon. If I'm another member then the leader does not move:confused: cheers n thanks in advance.

BTW I'm playing the latest version

Doh! My bad. I was trying to get in the wrong truck. The one in the ruins, not NW to the road. It is amusing though that you can get your team into a 'locked' vehicle(possible exploit there).

Cheers

Edited July 16, 2009 by acerjacks
Solution found!