warpuppy 0 Posted May 29, 2009 First off - Apoligies if i have posted this in the wrong place. Just want to know how does one get the Aircraft in game and whats the syntax to use to get the static destroyer to float ? Second - I am the proud owner of the German Version of Arma2 and despite all the moaning and groaning by some. I am happy knowing that BIS is going to look after us. My congrats with BIS you will definetly be getting my money again and again Many thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balschoiw 0 Posted May 29, 2009 Just want to know how does one get the Aircraft in game and whats the syntax to use to get the static destroyer to float ? There´s no way. It´s a map object placed in visitor. You can´t place it via editor neither can you move it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted May 29, 2009 The aircraft carrier is only on the Utes map, it can't be moved it's like a building. Too bad it isn't on Chernarus :mad: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpuppy 0 Posted May 29, 2009 Ok Thanks for that.... Most appreciated !! If i may ask how do you get the frigate to float? Many thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taconic 0 Posted May 29, 2009 There´s no way. It´s a map object placed in visitor. You can´t place it via editor neither can you move it.Is it defined in the config?If so, it'll be able to be placed... Eventually. Just not through the vanilla editor. Also, it's not a carrier. :p I haven't seen any detail shots of it, but it looks like an LHD to me. Probably Wasp class. They're amphibious assault ships and, unlike the carriers, they basically exist to put USMC assets in theatre (generally AV-8s, AH-1s, CH-46s, etc. And of course Marines on shore.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[aps]gnat 28 Posted May 30, 2009 There´s no way. It´s a map object placed in visitor. You can´t place it via editor neither can you move it. hmmmm, but if its like ArmA1 etc logic seems to suggest you could createvehicle it, because to be in visitor, it has to be in the config somewhere. Of course it may be more than 1 object. Ships sinking ......... I'm glad the ships are in there, but this speaks volumes about how rushed BIS were in this release! After ArmA1 you'd think they'd know better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex72 1 Posted May 30, 2009 "Carrier" is not on the Chernarus map? Damn i thaught it was the 4th runway/base to use wich would make sense if you would play 4 factions against eachother or even capture Chernarus mission where the "carrier" would be the starting point and then you had to take over more and more to eventually secure a runway - continue and secure the rest of villages/cities/runway to win. Hm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An-225 0 Posted May 30, 2009 That would make no sense, we've seen campaign footage that takes place on the aircraft carrier. It should be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparks50 0 Posted May 30, 2009 About the destroyer/frigate, would it sink if you setheight it on the water surface? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted May 30, 2009 So the carrier is not even available to be placed as an empty entity? (You know, first we place a character from a faction then go back and down to empty, that thing.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xenios 0 Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) I don't have the game yet, but from what I've read the destroyer is a simple object (ported over from VBS2), not an actual ship vehicle. That would be why it doesn't float, but probably has to use setpos to appear to float. Sounds like some of Gnat's ships could come in handy here as proper escorts. As for the amphibious assault ship (which most people will be calling a carrier), I thought I had seen a video of a Huey taking off from it and landing on the Chernarus mainland. Hopefully someone can confirm whether it's present on the Chernarus map. I kind of hope that it isn't, because then we could decide if or where we wanted it in any given mission. Permanently placed objects on the map are kind of limiting. The assault ship may not be available yet as an object in the editor yet, but remember that many objects weren't available at first in the Arma1 editor until someone created the editor update addon. Edited May 30, 2009 by Xenios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScorpionGuard 10 Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) By the way. Why are you guys calling the LHD (Wasp Class Amphibious Assault Ship). A CVN (Nimitz Class Nuclear Power Aircraft Carrier)? Just wondering. CVN: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/USS_Nimitz_1997.jpg LHD: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/USS_Wasp_%28LHD_1%29.jpg Edited May 30, 2009 by ScorpionGuard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An-225 0 Posted May 30, 2009 I call it an aircraft carrier, because the majority of the public do not know what an Amphibious Assault Ship is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taconic 0 Posted May 30, 2009 That would make no sense, we've seen campaign footage that takes place on the aircraft carrier. It should be there.The LHD is apparently on the Utes map, not the main Chernarus map.I really don't think this is anything to worry about. If it's defined anywhere in config, it'll be easy enough to mod it as a placeable object. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScorpionGuard 10 Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) I call it an aircraft carrier, because the majority of the public do not know what an Amphibious Assault Ship is. Part of a Form is to educate the public of thing they don't know. In this case. The community. If not to educate. Than why reinforce undulation of the subject we are speaking of. The form is to inform the community and public of what is what. Not to dumb it down. Believe me. Working for DTV. I speak to dumb people all day long. Witch makes me job harder. And longer. We must raise the bar on knowledge of the game\simulation to enjoy it batter. Edited May 30, 2009 by ScorpionGuard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussieterry84 10 Posted May 30, 2009 Scorpion get ur ships right its an aircraft carrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axure 10 Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) And just for the record, LHD doesn't mean Wasp class amiphibious assault ship, it means landing helicopter dock (an amphibious ship that can use helos, VTOLs and landing craft). Same way, CVN doesn't mean Nimits nuclear carrier, it means just nuclear powered aircraft carrier. USS Enterprise, which is not Nimitz-class, is also a CVN. AussieTerry84, not really. Just because it carries a handful of VTOLs doesn't make it an aircraft carrier. It's all about the main purpose of a ship. LHD is about landing stuff on the shore (with helos, LCACs, what have you). CVN is about flying fighters and strike aircraft (and a few other types). Last, but not least, I'm sure you can create a carrier for Chernarus as a mod. :) Edited May 30, 2009 by axure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted May 30, 2009 Type that in google image search and see if you get pictures of the big aircraft carriers. (amphibious assault ship) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eble 3 Posted May 30, 2009 Gnat;1293425']hmmmm' date=' but if its like ArmA1 etc logic seems to suggest you could createvehicle it, because to be in visitor, it has to be in the config somewhere. Of course it may be more than 1 object.Ships sinking ......... I'm glad the ships are in there, but this speaks volumes about how rushed BIS were in this release! After ArmA1 you'd think they'd know better.[/quote'] I zoomed right in on the carrier LHD on the utes map, it looks made up of at least 6 parts/pieces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScorpionGuard 10 Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) I call it an aircraft carrier, because the majority of the public do not know what an Amphibious Assault Ship is. Scorpion get ur ships right its an aircraft carrier. I did added links of a CVN & LHD in the post above the last one I posted. Take a look. But if you would have looked at it. You would have not made this statement. But what do I know. I only been studying Military Science for 10 + years. And part of a military family from WWI to Afgan. Oh. Yes. Been on US Navy.Army & Air Force's bases. Also did I inform you I'm a Army brat. So to tell me to get right.You are realy barking up the wrong tree. Edited May 30, 2009 by ScorpionGuard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScorpionGuard 10 Posted May 30, 2009 And just for the record, LHD doesn't mean Wasp class amiphibious assault ship, it means landing helicopter dock (an amphibious ship that can use helos, VTOLs and landing craft).Same way, CVN doesn't mean Nimits nuclear carrier, it means just nuclear powered aircraft carrier. USS Enterprise, which is not Nimitz-class, is also a CVN. AussieTerry84, not really. Just because it carries a handful of VTOLs doesn't make it an aircraft carrier. It's all about the main purpose of a ship. LHD is about landing stuff on the shore (with helos, LCACs, what have you). CVN is about flying fighters and strike aircraft (and a few other types). Last, but not least, I'm sure you can create a carrier for Chernarus as a mod. :) Yes. I understand that. But at the present time the LHD are Wasp Class. And if you look on the side of the LHD. You will see the number 9. Whitch has not been laid as wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cm 0 Posted May 30, 2009 I though it was called a wasp class aircraft LHD CVN carrier? Maybe it's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xenios 0 Posted May 30, 2009 (edited) Yes, the amphibious assault ship looks like a carrier, but it really is different. For the record, the main differences between a full fledged carrier like the Nimitz and an amphibious assault ship like the Wasp are: The Nimitz is over twice as massive in displacement. The Nimitz is a nuclear powered ship; the Wasp uses conventional steam propulsion. The purpose of a carrier is to put fighter-bombers in the air; the purpose of an amphibious assault ship is to put Marines on shore and support them. The Wasp carries many utility/transport helicopters, but only a few Cobras and Harriers. The Nimitz typically carries three times as many aircraft as the Wasp, and most of them are combat aircraft. The Wasp has a large hospital onboard, almost as large and complete as those on dedicated hospital ships. The biggest difference is the well deck on the Wasp--a large chamber in the stern which can open into the sea and disembark various landing craft. The Wasp can carry over 2000 Marines, vehicles, and armor and transport all of them ashore by landing craft, helicopter, or Osprey. It's actually pretty amazing that they can fit so much into one ship. Edited May 30, 2009 by Xenios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussieterry84 10 Posted May 30, 2009 AussieTerry84, not really. Just because it carries a handful of VTOLs doesn't make it an aircraft carrier. It's all about the main purpose of a ship. LHD is about landing stuff on the shore (with helos, LCACs, what have you). CVN is about flying fighters and strike aircraft (and a few other types). lol i know its not an aircraft carrier i was just baiting him becuase he's getting so miffled over something so small and not important and it worked going by his response to me lol :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricM 0 Posted May 30, 2009 What ? Can't have the LHD in Chernarus ?????? That's SO WEIRD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites