Guest General Nuisance Posted April 22, 2009 Hello, I installed a GeForce GTX 295 card to replace my 8800 GTS SLi setup. I did not uninstall the drivers (182.50) because the 200 and 8000 series use the same drivers. I tried to load Armed Assault but the game wouldn't start. I checked task manager and it says it's running, although the game doesn't 'initialise' on screen. Should I uninstall the drivers and then reinstall them? Should I also reinstall Armed Assault? Thanks. _________________ Striker II NSE SLI 790i Core 2 Duo 3.16Ghz E8500 Corsair TX 750W PSU Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer XFX GeForce GTX 295 Geil 4GB DDR3 PC3-10660 Western Digital Caviar 1TB HDD Vista 64 bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lockjaw-65- 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Do other applications work ok? I would Defiantly reinstall the graphics drivers after uninstalling the old ones first. And I would reinstall the game anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted April 22, 2009 Hello,I installed a GeForce GTX 295 card to replace my 8800 GTS SLi setup. I did not uninstall the drivers (182.50) because the 200 and 8000 series use the same drivers. Doesn't work that way. You still need to reinstall the drivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest General Nuisance Posted April 22, 2009 I tried uninstalling then reinstalling the drivers but that didn't help. I then uninstalled Arma and reinstalled it, patching it to the latest version. However the problem persists. I am downloading the 1.15 beta patch, to see if it makes a difference. I earlier tried Far Cry 2 and Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway, they worked fine. Another game did not work which was Frontlines: Fuel of War. I hope I will not have to format my system in order to get the game to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noamles 0 Posted April 22, 2009 maybe ARMA doesn't like the SLI, did you try to disable it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kklownboy 43 Posted April 22, 2009 maybe ARMA doesn't like the SLI, did you try to disable it? ARMA likes SLI fine. I have a friend who was running two gtx295, for quad fire. It runs fine( tho now he is on a triple 285w/c for triSli). You can muck around in the Nvidia CP 3d settings to chk and or test the ARMA proflie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest General Nuisance Posted April 22, 2009 (edited) I reinstalled every thing but the problem remains. I even used drivesweeper but it made no difference. It's the only game with which I have a problem. I've also tried an older driver but it did not work. Edit - it turns out that there's a problem with my SB X-fi Xtreme Gamer soundcard and the game. I added the "-dsound" command to the shortcut and it loaded the game fine. Although there's some thing wrong with the sound! Edited April 22, 2009 by General Nuisance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertjedi 3 Posted April 24, 2009 Although there's some thing wrong with the sound! Excellent move on testing your sound. It's one that so many peeps take from granted when they really shouldn't - based on Creative's "driver history". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted April 26, 2009 ARMA likes SLI fine. From what I've seen here over the years, I think your friend is the exception as opposed to the norm. Loads of people seem to have problems with dual-GPU cards. I'd say the other games that stopped working probably don't like them either. EDIT: Didn't see that the problem had been resolved. Creative sound cards suck.. It's probably some sort of resource conflict it's causing with the card. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KELLO 0 Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) Arma doesnt run in SLI, only one card will be running it, you can test this by turning your sli metre on in the nvidia options... Arma to my knowlege still doesnt run on dual core processors either, both i hope they incorporate into Arma 2, Arma runs fine on one of my 280's so i wouldnt think there was an issue, you may have to delete all the arma config files in your documents folder to get it to run, Arma should create a new set of files when you run it...I also have an X-FI Extreme Fatality Sound card, but have no issues with that either, are you running XP or Vista, (I'm running Vista 64)make sure you have the latest driver from creative, I have also in the past had problems getting Arma to start up which was caused by a usb device,(would work intermitently) prehaps try unplugging any other devices apart from keyboard/mouse to see if that helps...;) Edited April 26, 2009 by KELLO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kklownboy 43 Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) Arma doesnt run in SLI, ... Wrong ARMA runs in SLI. ARMA runs in CF. For CF (ATI) you have to rename the arma.exe. In SLI it depends on the Driver. There was a driver series that borked it, and you need to run with a rename, but since then has been fixed, Sometimes on driver installs with NVDA you do not get the profiles right. And if you use betas you will almost always get issue with profiles of games that come with the drivers. The best rename so far is Crysis. And set up a profile in your Nvidia CP/3D Settings. As for my CFX (quadfire, two cards,dual gpus) on the settings i run; One GPU (ARMA.exe)=15fps,(Crysis.exe)=21fps . One card/two GPUs (ARMA.exe) = 15+ fps, (Crysis.exe) = 47fps. Two cards/four GPUS (ARMA.exe) is 15fps, (Crysis.exe)= 85fps to my max Vsync 100fps. 1600/1200, 100 refresh Convoy mission start. ACE,ECS,ASX, all ingame settings high or veryhigh(except PostProc,Low)6thSense Bat. settings ; VD= 3500 to 5000 (same fps), Terrain= Ultra_Bumpy. CFX Crysis @1900/1200 85refresh=77fps This just standing at the start, running around it hits 100 and drops to 58/62. Edited April 27, 2009 by kklownboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest General Nuisance Posted May 3, 2009 I have another problem. The problem I described before had to do with my X-Fi card. I had to re-install Vista to get it to work (adding "-dsound" to the command line doesn't cut it). Now I get blue screens with ArmA (this occured before the re-format). The error report states it's a driver issue. I did have the latest 182.50 drivers, so I went to the previous 182.08 set but the problem remained. So I shall have to delete my 182.08 drivers, run driver cleaner and install the 181.22 drivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted May 3, 2009 ARMA likes SLI fine. I have a friend who was running two gtx295, for quad fire. It runs fine( tho now he is on a triple 285w/c for triSli). You can muck around in the Nvidia CP 3d settings to chk and or test the ARMA proflie. Yeah SLi and Arma dont mix. Not a good idea and this is where your prob will most likely be :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kklownboy 43 Posted May 3, 2009 Wow using arma2.exe is great! Much better than crysis.exe, no strobe coming out of map view, and or at the start of a mission ect. All around steller rename for my CFX setup. HDR and shadows are great. It maybe a good rename for SLI users. There is a arma2 profile already in the ATI drivers. May be one in Nvda. Changed the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supernova 0 Posted May 3, 2009 ARMA likes SLI fine. I have a friend who was running two gtx295, for quad fire. It runs fine( tho now he is on a triple 285w/c for triSli). You can muck around in the Nvidia CP 3d settings to chk and or test the ARMA proflie. Quad-Fire is 4 AMD/ATI GPU's. Quad-SLI is the proper term !. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baff1 0 Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) The same, I see no difference in ArmA with SLI. None at all. I don't think the game supports it. I doubt I will ever buy SLI again. The only games which bother to support it, are the games which all run with high frame rates on one card anyway. The Quakes and Unreals, Crysis etc. Edited May 3, 2009 by Baff1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamis 0 Posted May 4, 2009 using arma2.exe is great! Much better than crysis.exe, no strobe coming out of map view In which driver version they included arma2 profile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickboy 13 Posted May 4, 2009 (edited) Yeah SLi and Arma dont mix. Not a good idea and this is where your prob will most likely be :) The same, I see no difference in ArmA with SLI.None at all. I don't think the game supports it. I doubt I will ever buy SLI again. The only games which bother to support it, are the games which all run with high frame rates on one card anyway. The Quakes and Unreals, Crysis etc. Reading is quite an Art it seems :D: Wrong ARMA runs in SLI. ARMA runs in CF. For CF (ATI) you have to rename the arma.exe. In SLI it depends on the Driver. There was a driver series that borked it, and you need to run with a rename, but since then has been fixed, Sometimes on driver installs with NVDA you do not get the profiles right. And if you use betas you will almost always get issue with profiles of games that come with the drivers. The best rename so far is Crysis. And set up a profile in your Nvidia CP/3D Settings.As for my CFX (quadfire, two cards,dual gpus) on the settings i run; One GPU (ARMA.exe)=15fps,(Crysis.exe)= 21fps . One card/two GPUs (ARMA.exe) = 15+ fps, (Crysis.exe) = 47fps. Two cards/four GPUS (ARMA.exe) is 15fps, (Crysis.exe)= 85fps to my max Vsync 100fps. 1600/1200, 100 refresh Convoy mission start. ACE,ECS,ASX, all ingame settings high or veryhigh(except PostProc,Low)6thSense Bat. settings ; VD= 3500 to 5000 (same fps), Terrain= Ultra_Bumpy. CFX Crysis @1900/1200 85refresh=77fps This just standing at the start, running around it hits 100 and drops to 58/62. Translated: SLI and CrossFire work fine together with ArmA, except that in some situations, you have to rename the arma.exe to crysis.exe due to profile problems in the Graphics Drivers :) (And in newer drivers; arma2.exe seems to work!) Edited May 4, 2009 by Sickboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kklownboy 43 Posted May 4, 2009 Reading is quite an Art it seems :D:Translated: SLI and CrossFire work fine together with ArmA, except that in some situations, you have to rename the arma.exe to crysis.exe due to profile problems in the Graphics Drivers :) (And in newer drivers; arma2.exe seems to work!) Thanx, yeah i am a bit "wordy". To the original poster; you may have to muck arround in you 3D settings and set up a ARMA proflie. And arma2.exe may be a good rename. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11aTony 0 Posted May 5, 2009 Your arma wont start? It stays in desktop? Well, I installed 4GB more of RAM last month (I had 2 before) and my arma didnt want to start. This helped though: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=52021 4th point "clean boot". But man, if you are using vista, your best solution is to reinstall your operating system. ArmA has some issues with replacing/adding hardware apparently. I had this before though. Everytime I add something to my PC, this happens. (same on previous PC). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grodin 0 Posted May 6, 2009 (edited) My ArmA runs SLI and Crossfire just fine. FPS increases range from 20fps increase up to 40 compared to running it in single gpu mode. Fear.exe provided best FPS increase for 4870x2, 50% increase. Crysis.exe seems to work for 295. EDIT: Seems ArmA2 provides best results now that i tried it, on 4870x2 - flashing on start is gone and FPS is good. This is on 9.5 drivers. Have to try it on nvidia cards too :) Edited May 6, 2009 by Grodin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush 0 Posted May 6, 2009 My ArmA runs SLI and Crossfire just fine.FPS increases range from 20fps increase up to 40 compared to running it in single gpu mode. Fear.exe provided best FPS increase for 4870x2, 50% increase. Crysis.exe seems to work for 295. EDIT: Seems ArmA2 provides best results now that i tried it, on 4870x2 - flashing on start is gone and FPS is good. This is on 9.5 drivers. Have to try it on nvidia cards too :) Which of the card gives the best performance in ArmA with or without SLI/Xfire? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grodin 0 Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Which of the card gives the best performance in ArmA with or without SLI/Xfire? Avarage FPS in armamark tests: 4870x2 in crossfire: 45-50 4870x2 single gpu: 30-35 280gtx: 55-60 nVidia sure got it right in ArmA. Note, these frames are much lower than actual gameplay frames, as that test is quite heavy. Avarage game fps with everything maxed, except shadows, and 1200 viewdistance, all of these combinations give pretty much v-sync capped 75fps, crossfire and 280 just being alot smoother when turning around etc. And this talk about quad cores not making any difference "Because arma uses just 1 core" is total BS. FPS in arma is very much dependant on your processor, and upgrading from dual core, no matter how high clocks it has, will provide huge FPS increases. Theres more to processors than cores and core speeds that make the difference. Bus speeds and cache sizes for one. ESPECIALLY with top end graphics cards. Edited May 7, 2009 by Grodin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamis 0 Posted May 7, 2009 This is on 9.5 drivers. There is no 9.5 drivers yet.Newest are 9.4 and they are about 1 month old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grodin 0 Posted May 7, 2009 There is no 9.5 drivers yet.Newest are 9.4 and they are about 1 month old. http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=293664 O'rly? My 9.5 sure works fine, and fixed some serious issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites