The Lost Brothers -Isaac and Ishmael Mod

[miles teg 1]

Yes, however it will be our 80's units that will be getting the Galil rifles of various types.  The 60's and 70's units however will have Uzis as standard. However to keep the size of the pack managable I can't make tons of different unit types like we did for the modern IDF otherwise the historic infantry pack alone would be over 1 gig in size.

Some news... I revamped the historic infantry and replaced US ammo pouches with more approriate canvas ammo pouches.  I also made those pouches and the webgear tan as was common in the 60's and early 70's.  

Also Jewish Freak changed the colors of the uniform back to the modern green color as apparently this was standardized since 1968.

80's units will have ephods and the current kevlar helmets with a few units using the PASGT style vests like what our modern Hezbollah commandos are using (which are often old ex-IDF body armor given to the Lebanese Army ending up in Hezbollah usage).

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Col. Faulkner 0]

Yes, however it will be our 80's units that will be getting the Galil rifles of various types.  

I don't mean Galils, I mean proper Israeli FALs. The Belgian M1 rifle that your man holds in the

screenshot is not at all authentic for the 1970s. By that date they should all be the IMI

manufactured ones. The Israeli FALs were very distinctive in appearance and it'd be a real

shame if you didn't include it. Your weapon modeller would really only have to change the

handguards to get it looking "close enough" (there are other details, of course, but I'll not

go into those here). Israeli FALs looked like this:

[fritz160 wolf 0]

NICE    good centrioun man @ super shermen maybe ya guys can Make those for project racs. " id love to see  a centrioun in the Racs ranks.  heck even the super shermen.

" i noticed the Israeli Fal is kinda short compared to the belgium @ britsh L1 versions. looks like shorter barrel.  some of the parts that are supose to be wood look like plastic or metal.

[miles teg 1]

Ah...that's the problem. We didn't model it and we don't have a weapons modeller expert...although one of our members *might* be able to handle that. We are using Vilas's weapons pack. So unless he makes those for us, then we're stuck just with what you see in those pics along with a folding stock version.

But speaking of not very realistic stuff...

Here's a screenshot of a fictional Syrian TU-22M carpet bombing American forces. We have it currently dropping 10 bombs at a time with a total of 60 FAB-100's (along with two cruise missiles).

It was simply too awesome of a model to let it go to waste. I know Gnat is working on the updating the standard Russian version made by Footmunch (which ours is also based off) so I'm sure his version will be a million times better.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[vilas 477]

oftopic :Miles your PM box is full and not accept new messages

[Col. Faulkner 0]

" i noticed the Israeli Fal is kinda short compared to the belgium @ britsh L1 versions. looks like shorter barrel.  some of the parts that are supose to be wood look like plastic or metal.

The barrel itself is the same length, it just has no flash

eliminator (which adds length). The IDF did use the Belgian

22mm combo muzzle device but photos of those in IDF use

seem to be quite rare.

I didn't notice the polymer pistol grip. The example pictured

is a civilian-owned rifle. It was the best colour illustration I

could dig up quickly. Many FAL shooters prefer a polymer

pistol grip and wooden handguards, which might explain

the "mixed medium" furniture. IDF FALs in the 1970s had

wooden pistol grips.

[Col. Faulkner 0]

we're stuck just with what you see in those pics along with a folding stock version.

You don't need a folding stock version. The IDF used only

fixed stock FALs; a light barrelled one as a standard service

rifle (pictured above) and a heavy barrelled one as a "light

machine gun".

[miles teg 1]

Actually in one of the Osprey books on the IDF they show Sayeret MATKAL units with FAL's that have folding stocks along with I pics of some paratroopers with it.

EDIT-  Ooops...nevermind... the picture was of a galil...from the angle it was taken it looked like a FN-FAL para variant.

So ok...then two versions.  The support version with the bipod and heavy barrel should be simple if hopefully Vilas (or if he's busy someone else) can help to create an Israeli FN-FAL.

New picture of Syrian SU-24 Fencer flying in a strike group with Syrian Mig-29 providing escort (not seen):

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Col. Faulkner 0]

Actually in one of the Osprey books on the IDF they show Sayeret MATKAL units with FAL's that have folding stocks along with I pics of some paratroopers with it.

EDIT-  Ooops...nevermind... the picture was of a galil...from the angle it was taken it looked like a FN-FAL para variant.

The folding stock on the Galil was copied from the one on

the FAL, so it would be easy to confuse the two from some

angles.

[Col. Faulkner 0]

IDF FALs in the 1970s had wooden pistol grips.

Actually, I was wrong here. Some further investigation

reveals that Israeli FALs regularly had polymer pistol grips,

so the rifle I posted pictures of above is an authentic replica.

If needed I can dig out some photos of the muzzle device and

bipod on the Israeli HBAR FAL, also images of the Hebrew

engraving on the receiver and sights. Send me a PM if or

when you want these.

[echo1 0]

I had downloaded this mod when it came out, forgot about it and only started playing with it today. It's top notch stuff, in particular - I like the assault ladder the Duvdevan troops have, one of the most unique things Ive seen made for ArmA in a good long time (in my opinion anyway)

[blazer01 0]

nice to see the SU-24 Fencer in game and working Miles

[miles teg 1]

Yeah I know you can't see it well but basically it's all tan with Syrian markings until we can find good reference pics for the Syrian cammo that we can later add to it.

But yeah it's fully working and armed to the teeth. Flys very well and can do a good bit of air-to-air combat as well as it carries a couple of IR AA missiles on it.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[miles teg 1]

I had downloaded this mod when it came out, forgot about it and only started playing with it today. It's top notch stuff, in particular - I like the assault ladder the Duvdevan troops have, one of the most unique things Ive seen made for ArmA in a good long time (in my opinion anyway)

Cool glad you liked that. That is actually courtesy of Mr. Simmons and his excellent tool pack that released a long time ago for ArmA.

We used it unmodified and with his readme's in the pack.

Did you check out the YAMAM units with the ballistics shields? Granted they need a little work on the transparency issues on the textures (I need to find a tutorial to fix that).

Also the we use the smoke grenades and beacons from that pack. The smoke grenades actually block the AI view so you can actually use them to cover your movements across streets.

The ladders are nice cuz they can allow you access to rooftops otherwise not available to you. In MP games expecially this becomes a major advantage.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[froggyluv 2136]

Hi, just downloaded as the aircraft look fun but are there any missions already created for this? The one that came with it has an add-on error and I'm feeling too lazy to create one in the editor

[miles teg 1]

Oops...double post...darn forum was acting wierd and didn't show my first reply.

[miles teg 1]

Yeah in our upcomimg bug fix/new addon pack I'm going to include the fixed version of that mission. It's a simple fix though. You just have to dePBO it and remove the missing object from the list of addons in the mission.sqm file then either stick it int your User/Missions folder in your Windows/Documents directory (and play around with it in the editor) or PBO it again and stick it back into your missions folder.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[namman2 0]

some more syrian screen shots

MiG-23

MiG-29 and Tu-22

Tu-22

IRAF

[echo1 0]

I had downloaded this mod when it came out, forgot about it and only started playing with it today. It's top notch stuff, in particular - I like the assault ladder the Duvdevan troops have, one of the most unique things Ive seen made for ArmA in a good long time (in my opinion anyway)

Cool glad you liked that.   That is actually courtesy of Mr. Simmons and his excellent tool pack that released a long time ago for ArmA.  

We used it unmodified and with his readme's in the pack.  

Did you check out the YAMAM units with the ballistics shields?  Granted they need a little work on the transparency issues on the textures (I need to find a tutorial to fix that).  

Also the we use the smoke grenades and beacons from that pack.  The smoke grenades actually block the AI view so you can actually use them to cover your movements across streets.

The ladders are nice cuz they can allow you access to rooftops otherwise not available to you. In MP games expecially this becomes a major advantage.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

Yeah, I actually found this out after I posted, just goes to show you what happens when you don't read the manual first Still, great stuff.

[fritz160 wolf 0]

holy crap TOMCATS glad to see some in arma. Ya guys should make a US navy and racs versions even though its officaly retired I still love to see tomcat go topgun on some su33s.

[vilas 477]

when we are talking about historical/cold war IDF , how often UZI with wooden stock was used ?

mostly we all know in Europe UZI with metal stock (Police units), but i know IDF had UZI with wooden stock, was it popular ?

[Raafatah64 0]

the uzi with wooden stock was used in the six day war in 1967 and in yom kippur war in 1973 they used the weapon beside the israeli fal and all thier uzis had a wooden stock at that time vilas....

[Ngata21 0]

Keep up the good work guys, I enjoy using your units!

[vilas 477]

was this weapon missing for historical IDF units ?

well... than it is not missing anymore

just redownload what's needed ;]

regards Miles

[GD Mast 0]

Mig-23's and Mig-29's...sweet. Any Mig-27's?

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