Donionz 0 Posted June 13, 2007 In my entire gaming career, since the dawn of games like Wings of Fury, Test Drive and Wolfenstein 3D I have never been as frustrated as I am with this game. My honest opinion is that Armed Assault is a disaster, quite frankly I'm in awe of myself for not turning to violence and destroying stuff around me... I'm on a brand new computer, which in my humble opinion should easily get this gaming working; Dual core 2 E6600 2,4ghz - 2 gig ram, Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX 768mb ram, vista 32. I'm getting thrown to desktop like crazy,8007000e error, or just a warning saying the program has stopped working. WTF GUYS?! And yes I've tried all different settings, resolutions, maxmem etc... I read somewhere that BI had released the patch and gone on vacation. I'm starting to believe this..... How come there is no official statements regarding the vast amount of problem people are having with their program. If they are on vacation I hope the weather is pissing down on them. My 2 cents; Bohemia Interactive are killing themselves with this kind of substandard programming. I want BI to make an official statement admitting the problems and making a real effort to resolve the issues. I've spent over 65$ on this game, I expect it to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted June 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]I read somewhere that BI had released the patch and gone on vacation. I'm starting to believe this..... How come there is no official statements regarding the vast amount of problem people are having with their program. If they are on vacation I hope the weather is pissing down on them. They are definitely not on vacation, and even if the entire Staff would be: Who says they are not allowed to have some days off just because the game doesn't run on your shiny Vista? There are dozens of topics here covering the problems ArmA has with Vista and the GF8800 series. Just a suggestion: Try it with the OS it was developed for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volkov956 0 Posted June 13, 2007 only prob i getting is pre 1.07 Optics slow down with the new patch. Optics worked very well for me in 1.07 now it lags especially near foliage before with 1.07 it ran blazing good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]I read somewhere that BI had released the patch and gone on vacation. I'm starting to believe this..... Â How come there is no official statements regarding the vast amount of problem people are having with their program. If they are on vacation I hope the weather is pissing down on them. They are definitely not on vacation, and even if the entire Staff would be: Who says they are not allowed to have some days off just because the game doesn't run on your shiny Vista? There are dozens of topics here covering the problems ArmA has with Vista and the GF8800 series. Just a suggestion: Try it with the OS it was developed for? Â Honestly, this opinion is in a word, idiotic. Ignoring Vista is tantamount to financial suicide. It was in development for 5 years or more, every developer and his sister knew it was coming and yet we get this silly attitude from many of the people on here. If Bohemia arent going to support their game under Vista, ArmA will not be around for long. They have a small grace period as many people have not switched to Vista yet but I can tell you this, I play ALL my old games (In some cases 3 or 4 year old ones) in Vista with no problems EXCEPT ArmA. Its time to stop blaming the OS. Its been around for about 6 months now and after Crysis, Conan etc show up it wont be long before the majority of gamers will be switching. ArmA is the problem here, not Vista. Yes, I could boot into XP, it is on a seperate partition, but I dont see why I should have to for ONE GAME! E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donionz 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]I read somewhere that BI had released the patch and gone on vacation. I'm starting to believe this..... Â How come there is no official statements regarding the vast amount of problem people are having with their program. If they are on vacation I hope the weather is pissing down on them. They are definitely not on vacation, and even if the entire Staff would be: Who says they are not allowed to have some days off just because the game doesn't run on your shiny Vista? There are dozens of topics here covering the problems ArmA has with Vista and the GF8800 series. Just a suggestion: Try it with the OS it was developed for? Â Honestly, this opinion is in a word, idiotic. Ignoring Vista is tantamount to financial suicide. It was in development for 5 years or more, every developer and his sister knew it was coming and yet we get this silly attitude from many of the people on here. If Bohemia arent going to support their game under Vista, ArmA will not be around for long. They have a small grace period as many people have not switched to Vista yet but I can tell you this, I play ALL my old games (In some cases 3 or 4 year old ones) in Vista with no problems EXCEPT ArmA. Its time to stop blaming the OS. Its been around for about 6 months now and after Crysis, Conan etc show up it wont be long before the majority of gamers will be switching. ArmA is the problem here, not Vista. Yes, I could boot into XP, it is on a seperate partition, but I dont see why I should have to for ONE GAME! Â E Agreed.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misfit Leader 1 Posted June 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]I read somewhere that BI had released the patch and gone on vacation. I'm starting to believe this..... How come there is no official statements regarding the vast amount of problem people are having with their program. If they are on vacation I hope the weather is pissing down on them. They are definitely not on vacation, and even if the entire Staff would be: Who says they are not allowed to have some days off just because the game doesn't run on your shiny Vista? There are dozens of topics here covering the problems ArmA has with Vista and the GF8800 series. Just a suggestion: Try it with the OS it was developed for? Shall we understand that Vista users will be forgotten by BIS ? Strange answer. I know all cannot work well because of various hardware/software in the PC environment. But well testing the game before releasing new patch is the min. requirement. (lots of server switch to 1.08, so only people with 1.08 working can join their friend or their community) Maybe you don't have Vista, lots of people got it now and more are coming. It is sold with PC, you can't do anything about that.. there should be a problem when developer will stop supporting XP. Also some people still have problems with GeForce 8 + XP. So it might not be always Windows Vista the source of these problems. Now a little question, can a BIS member or Moderator or anyone else who know the answer say what is the file who is created after ArmA crashed. That could maybe help BIS to quickly patch.. the patch. (reminds me MicroSoft to say things like that ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 13, 2007 only prob i getting is pre 1.07 Optics slow down with the new patch. Optics worked very well for me in 1.07 now it lags especially near foliage before with 1.07 it ran blazing good what is your shading setting? try to lower it to normal to see if the fps goes up more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted June 13, 2007 I have not said that Vista is the problem, I said he might try it with XP and see if the problem still occurs. I have 2 Vista licences here (which came with the new hardware) and had only problems running ArmA on them. Both are long time replaced by XP Pro and since then I never had any problems running ArmA again. The usage of both Vista and a GF8800 series card seems to cause more problems then just using one of the two (I don't have a GF8800 card), but like said above it might be worth an attempt. ethne I strongly recommend you don't call me idiotic here again. You might do that with your friends, but I'm not one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 13, 2007 I have not said that Vista is the problem, I said he might try it with XP and see if the problem still occurs.I have 2 Vista licences here (which came with the new hardware) and had only problems running ArmA on them. Both are long time replaced by XP Pro and since then I never had any problems running ArmA again. The usage of both Vista and a GF8800 series card seems to cause more problems then just using one of the two (I don't have a GF8800 card), but like said above it might be worth an attempt. ethne I strongly recommend you don't call me idiotic here again. You might do that with your friends, but I'm not one of them. Dont start power tripping. I didnt call you idiotic I said that your particular opinion was. If I misunderstood what you were trying to put accross then I apologize but it sounded condescending and Vista is a reality that BIS will have to embrace, like it or not. E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donionz 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Let's try not to go all anger-boy on eachother. The reason why I've never been as frustrated by a game before, is because I've never had so high expectations to a game. I loved OFP, and checked out numerous videos of this game in advance of my purchase...and it looked bloody marvellous... I fully understand that there will be issues regarding such a complex game, but remember we're not talking minor glitches here...the bloody game does not work...I want it to work..hence my frustration. I believe it's my right to speak my mind, when I've paid for something that in my opinion does not work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 13, 2007 all to respect Donionz, i think there is a different i have borrowed my friend vista copy which he said he would not touch for another half a year, i install it onto my computer to see how it run, then i install quite a few games to test out the performence, funny things is, there are a few games that i couldnt get it work, CoH, SH4, and some older one, i do a little search on their forums and find others are able to run them, but in my case, i just couldnt get them working, even after messing them around for hours, now BF2 and R6:V do run OK on the vista, but i see no point if other games are not working, funny things is, i had also tried ARMA with vista and it works (but with piss poor performence), so i got the idea that right now, vista is not a gaming system i am looking for, just yet, i might be back to test it later, but right now, its out of my list whats this story tells me? vista is a hit and run, you have no idea what will work on it and whats not, ArmA are the same story, it may work on my system, but it may cause a lot of issus on the rig which are the same spec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 13, 2007 all to respect Donionz, i think there is a differenti have borrowed my friend vista copy which he said he would not touch for another half a year, i install it onto my computer to see how it run, then i install quite a few games to test out the performence, funny things is, there are a few games that i couldnt get it work, CoH, SH4, and some older one, i do a little search on their forums and find others are able to run them, but in my case, i just couldnt get them working, even after messing them around for hours, now BF2 and R6:V do run OK on the vista, but i see no point if other games are not working, funny things is, i had also tried ARMA with vista and it works (but with piss poor performence), so i got the idea that right now, vista is not a gaming system i am looking for, just yet, i might be back to test it later, but right now, its out of my list whats this story tells me? vista is a hit and run, you have no idea what will work on it and whats not, ArmA are the same story, it may work on my system, but it may cause a lot of issus on the rig which are the same spec Bad luck with getting those games working but they all work perfectly on Vista. "Vista is not a gaming system" Are you serious? It has an API (DX10) that was built from the ground up to enhance gaming. As many here have already stated, ArmA is the only game that they have problems with in Vista. In about 2 months the first DX10 titles will appear and the majority of gamers who have not already will be moving to Vista. This is a problem that needs to be addressed directly by BIS and the blaming of the 8800 and/or Vista needs to stop. E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted June 13, 2007 all to respect Donionz, i think there is a differenti have borrowed my friend vista copy which he said he would not touch for another half a year, i install it onto my computer to see how it run, then i install quite a few games to test out the performence, funny things is, there are a few games that i couldnt get it work, CoH, SH4, and some older one, i do a little search on their forums and find others are able to run them, but in my case, i just couldnt get them working, even after messing them around for hours, now BF2 and R6:V do run OK on the vista, but i see no point if other games are not working, funny things is, i had also tried ARMA with vista and it works (but with piss poor performence), so i got the idea that right now, vista is not a gaming system i am looking for, just yet, i might be back to test it later, but right now, its out of my list whats this story tells me? vista is a hit and run, you have no idea what will work on it and whats not, ArmA are the same story, it may work on my system, but it may cause a lot of issus on the rig which are the same spec Bad luck with getting those games working but they all work perfectly on Vista. "Vista is not a gaming system" Are you serious? It has an API (DX10) that was built from the ground up to enhance gaming. As many here have already stated, ArmA is the only game that they have problems with in Vista. In about 2 months the first DX10 titles will appear and the majority of gamers who have not already will be moving to Vista. This is a problem that needs to be addressed directly by BIS and the blaming of the 8800 and/or Vista needs to stop. E god might have pissed on my install of vista, but facts that some game didnt work for me, and even if it work it have a few fps drop for it, i dunno if it is a driver issus, but right now no i wont buy my own copy of vista, as there are other problem thats not related to gaming(which i dont borther to say here) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted June 13, 2007 Vista is not optimised for gaming just yet, for christ sake most games newly released were released before vista came out so they couldnt of been made to work properly. And if you dont like the game now PO and come back at a later time when the problems will have been fixed and if you dont want to then thats not our problem so stop complining. ffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bangtail 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Vista is not optimised for gaming just yet, for christ sake most games newly released were released before vista came out so they couldnt of been made to work properly. And if you dont like the game now PO and come back at a later time when the problems will have been fixed and if you dont want to then thats not our problem so stop complining. ffs. Vista runs everything else just fine. Im not going to enter into a stupid flame war about this. Yourself (and BIS) can ignore Vista all you like. The attitude of some of the people on these forums is in a word, terrible. Telling people to "PO" etc. How long should we wait for a working product Matt? Another 6 months? These problems are not confined to Vista from what I've read. Its people like yourself who allow this shoddy development to continue. You'll defend these people to the grave no matter how bad the code is and you will blindly purchase anything they sell. I like ArmA and I liked OFP before it, but the constant problems (supporting the 8800 properly for example) are irksome. The 8800 has been around for 8 months now and still people here are blaming it. Vista has been around for 6 months and the only problem I have with Vista is ArmA. So I ask you, do you think the problem is a Flagship OS and the fastest performing GPU on the planet. Or is it possibly a company, who as talented as they may be, released a half finished product that we are paying to fix? Its a rhetorical question btw. E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donionz 0 Posted June 13, 2007 For crying out loud....what do you expect to find in a troubleshooting thread this massive, flowers and kisses? Of course people are going to complain when their games don't work....and why do you care if we flame BIS? Progress = status quo? We,consumers, have every right to bitch untill the problems are solved.....and by solved I mean an official patch. I will be first in line to applaude BIS when they do, but untill then I reserve my right to be pissed off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shalashaska 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Vista is not optimised for gaming just yet, for christ sake most games newly released were released before vista came out so they couldnt of been made to work properly. And if you dont like the game now PO and come back at a later time when the problems will have been fixed and if you dont want to then thats not our problem so stop complining. ffs. The one thing that's probably as bad, or well close to it, as people yelling at the company and acting like it's a conspiracy is those who lash out at people who are having problems with the game and are frustrated, and act as though they are in the pockets of the company in question. Seriously, if you don't like people bad mouthing the company, there's a better way to say it. Reminding people that their complaints are legitimate, but that they should focus their frustration onto the ones responcible (SecureRom) is better than saying 'It's your fault, GTFO and fix it yourself', when considering the myriad of people with different systems (I'm not running vista, and I have this patch problem) are having a problem, it sure as hell seems like it's not their fault. Thank goodness BIS doesn't have people like you in their customer service. I imagine they might, but I hope you never get a job representing a company, for their sake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
binkster 0 Posted June 13, 2007 I think vista and 8800 is a bad mix. Before the 108 patch I was having tons of problems but then i reverted back to xp and it solved many. The 108 patch for me solved all problems and it added just 1, CTD.... I have solved this by putting texture on default and not ALT TABBING. Ive found out by alt tabbing too much it will CTD. People with vista should think about creating a dual boot with xp. Its not hard and you can find tutorials on web. You need to do a little tweaking to some boot files before u can choose which OS to boot to. There is actually a program that will do this for u. Pm me if you would like help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chi 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Problems I have seen so far. 1. Post effect lighting goes mad at certain times...using scopes, zooming in with weapons, spawning into another soldier when killed ect. 2. Contrast change has made the game look worse for me. Too dark now and changing the gamma/brightness makes the colours looked washed out and unrealistic. It was spot on in 1.5 for me with default settings. 3. AT soldiers are still firing at enemy infantry as much as before. 4. Soldiers/vehicles/building ect look further away and less detailed. 5. Fog distance seems worse. 6. AI still will not move over bridges. I dont know if BI intend to fix this but i can imagine a lot of mission makers avoiding making missions while this is still in the game. 7. I still hate the grass and would like the option to turn it off during MP coop. I run a server using my PC and it runs like crap because of the grass. With 1.5 I could load a mission that has been made without grass and from then on it would be off for all players but now this doesnt work. 8. Changing from driver in a empty tank to gunner causes the tank sometimes to turn in a anti clockwise direction. Is there a bug thread or anywhere I can post these so BI will read them ? Will they be read on here by the dev's ? Ta Chi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted June 13, 2007 Again Same Story Every Time i Load ArmA always happens. Quote[/b] ]. . . Region: 7FDD7000,36 KB,Free Region: 7FDE0000,8 KB,Comm Region: 7FDE2000,84 KB,Free Region: 7FDF7000,24 KB,Comm Region: 7FDFD000,12 KB,Free Region: 7FE00000,8 KB,Comm Region: 7FE02000,108 KB,Free Region: 7FE1D000,24 KB,Comm Region: 7FE23000,52 KB,Free Region: 7FE30000,4 KB,Comm Region: 7FE31000,72 KB,Free Region: 7FE43000,20 KB,Comm Region: 7FE48000,32 KB,Free Region: 7FE50000,4 KB,Comm Region: 7FE51000,92 KB,Free Region: 7FE68000,28 KB,Comm Region: 7FE6F000,4 KB,Free Region: 7FE70000,4 KB,Comm Region: 7FE71000,120 KB,Free Region: 7FE8F000,20 KB,Comm Region: 7FE94000,48 KB,Free Region: 7FEA0000,4 KB,Comm Region: 7FEA1000,1052 KB,Free Region: 7FFA8000,4 KB,Comm Region: 7FFA9000,8 KB,Free Region: 7FFAB000,168 KB,Comm Region: 7FFD5000,4 KB,Free Region: 7FFD6000,44 KB,Comm Longest free VM region: 1499136 ErrorMessage: Cannot create system memory surface DXT1,2048x2048 (size 2818048 B) Error code 8007000e Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Just happened to me. I was editing (yes, a lot of alt-tabbing) and when the GFX went all wonky, I did not have time to try the 'flush' technique. Will attempt again and try to see if flushing helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coma73 0 Posted June 13, 2007 this is complete garbage a million problems and no answers, and all we get from the moderators is ATTITUDE! do your job, and moderate not be standoffish, this isnt your own personal blog to be snotty with people. we payed money so this is customer service, so act like a proffesional not get bent out of shape. I have been trying for days to find out my problem, i dont have vista, and cannot instal the patch. but god forbid i show any frustration or the bi fanboys will jump all over me. btw i know this will be deleted but who cares, this forum went to hell long before arma came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evishion 0 Posted June 13, 2007 i havent read all 22 pages. but il post my issue only tryed 3 classes to play with in mission editor since the patch, and both the Spec ops, and the rifleman, misses its main weapon. the spec op, only got a pistol, while the rifleman, had hes hands straight down, with a invisivle gun firering.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
volkov956 0 Posted June 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]what is your shading setting? try to lower it to normal to see if the fps goes up more I think it it has more to do with the LOD i have dual 7950gt's and when i zoom with optics in 1.07 there is no lag but only 1.08 but what do i know i will tinker with it i guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted June 13, 2007 btw i know this will be deleted but who cares, this forum went to hell long before arma came out. Not really it was nice and calm before ArmA came out. Anyways i dont get any LOD bugs are funny textures everything looks awesome then all of a sudden BOOM ive crashed to the desktop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites