bionic 10 Posted March 13, 2007 Ditylarry is perfectly right.As I've pointed out numerously before, the issues you experience are caused by Driver and operating system modules that are partitially incompatible with DirectX9.0 32bit based applications. A sticky should be made that Vista systems are not supported, and all threads except one concerning Vista troubleshooting should be locked. I'm tired of them. So why when it is only Vista related same Problems can be seen on XP Systems as said many times before? And yes making an official sticky that clearly says Windows Vista is not supported by BIS is a good idea also this should be printed on the box to prevent people with Vistasystem to buy ArmA. Would save a lot of people much money and would keep them away from this board. Also there is no statement on the box that says 3,5Ghz or C2D PC´s are supported so maybe most bugs are related with to fast PC´s so why should these questions be answered and why is there no sticky that clearly says those aren´t supported and every post will be deleted which states a problem? Oh did i say there is no word about CP on the Box,DVD or inlet but i got Securom for free so maybe it is this 3rd partytool which causes all the problems. So if you know anything more official then me plz let me know otherwise keep out of Vista threads the only thing you do is spamming. And for you once again 1.02 was doing a great job and i was very happy with it you can read my posts on the german boards how i defended BIS against those "BIS sucks,..." threads. Since 1.05 there are performance and other problems seen on XP and Vistasystems so i would say it is in first place the patch and not the OS which causes problems. But i know you will come back in again and say it is Vista but plz next time prove it or bring a official statement that clear things up. greets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-23rd-_2Lt_Griff 0 Posted March 13, 2007 I have to back you up. Processor: Intel® Core™2 CPU 6700 @ 2.66GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2046MB RAM 900mhz Hard Drive: 635 GB Total Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card: SB X-Fi Audio [CF00] Operating System: Windows XP Media Edition Same error. But with JIP and only playing on multi it isnt to much of an issue for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest_Gump 0 Posted March 13, 2007 even if dirtylarry call his friends for help on posts HAHA .. but again ...  your friends are not helping on this posts ..  again .. they are useless for the troubleshooting ... sickboy and desert  u can go to General Room .. so u can be judge and give opinions ... this is a troubleshooting Room .. its made to try to help others .. not flame them or be judge on what u think its right or wrong ..  im careless of what you guys thing is wrong or right ...  i repeat .. its useless trash . if u have something that it might fix his problem .. or other problems .. then welcome ...  if not .. please reserve your comments posts and judging to the general Room . thanks again. no more reply's ill make for useless comments. AA is Grrrreat !!  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted March 13, 2007 Can we please go back on topic, which is dealing with the 8007000e Error in Windows Vista? Otherwise I see no other way then closing this topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
desertfox 2 Posted March 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]So why when it is only Vista related same Problems can be seen on XP Systems as said many times before? Because the only other people who experience this sort of issue all have a Nvidia 8800. Basically everyone has understood by now, that the Nvidia driver support for this card is poor and in beta stage. It appears you have missed this important point. Quote[/b] ]Also there is no statement on the box that says 3,5Ghz or C2D PC´s are supported so maybe most bugs are related with to fast PC´s You know .. I could explain what "Minimum" and "Recommended" means .. but your head would explode. Leaving this thread die now to avoid further .. nuisances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheVoodoo 0 Posted March 13, 2007 to add my thoughts to the vista discussion... vista is - from now on - preinstalled on every new OEM System, even you people dont like it. Atm BIS is preparing the US Release, dont you think it would be a wise decision to advertise officially Vista support? and for people who dont care, i say it anyway: ArmA run's on Vista as "good" as on XP in my case! and ArmA has the same issues on vista as on XP systems! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bionic 10 Posted March 13, 2007 Quote[/b] ]Because the only other people who experience this sort of issue all have a Nvidia 8800. Basically everyone has understood by now, that the Nvidia driver support for this card is poor and in beta stage. It appears you have missed this important point. So you proved yourself it is not Vista related it now must be the bad Nvidia driver for 8800 cards! Okay so we can now leave the Anti Microsoft and Vista boat and adress this issue to Nvidia or when it still is Patch 1.05 to BIS. So lets go on 1.02 same Nvidia driver more or less worked fine but 1.05 same Nvidia driver doesn´t. Now there is no final answer it is driver or patch nor do we have a answer to the problem itself but we can exclude Vista as proximate cause. Any other ideas? Quote[/b] ]You know .. I could explain what "Minimum" and "Recommended" means .. but your head would explode.Leaving this thread die now to avoid further .. nuisances. Oh i know very well what the meanings of this 2 little words are but for your instruction plz. PM me to keep this thread free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spongbo 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Everyone chill; let's recap: The problem has been seen with: - Windows Vista and both ATI and Nvidia cards - Windows XP with Nvidia 8800 This indicates to me that it's not exclusively a Vista problem, and as such, there should be no problem in fixing it. A fix for non-Vista systems probably fixes the issue on Vista systems too. As this is not an official support forum, I do not expect BiS to comment on a patch for this issue or otherwise. The box probably says to contact 505/publisher for support. Unfortunately, that's all well and good for "reinstall it" type issues and the odd video driver problem, but not for code bugs. There are probably more than a few outstanding. Which brings us to the next point: Are BiS actually saying that you can't run ArmA on Vista? Not that I've seen. Are they saying that ArmA will never be Vista compatible? Again, not that I've seen. Have they announced a timeframe? Who knows... There is a difference between supported, untested, unsupported and unworkable. If popular rumour is to be believed, ArmA on Vista is untested at best (meaning a fix for Vista-specific issues is possible), unsupported at worst (meaning no fix will ever be produced that applies to a problem exclusively affecting Windows Vista). Given that there's no official support for Vista, and that we're in an unofficial support forum, it would seem that this is the correct place to discuss workarounds and problems with Vista. On the flip side, it's not appropriate to demand fixes for untested/unsupported setups. But it would be nice for the boxes (or at least the website) to be explicit about Windows Vista users not buying the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest_Gump 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Spongebo ... yes ... the problem is with both .. Nvidia and ATI .. i just now know how to eliminate the ATI problem .. for that error to dissapear in ATI users.. you must Install driver 7.2 and catalyst 7.1 i been testing it .. and it works in vista 32 & 64 hope someone could try it on XP & XP64 And problem will be solved .. thats for ATI .. my guess is that .. someone has to try to do the same .. on Nvidia . AA is Grrrreat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sickboy 13 Posted March 14, 2007 even if dirtylarry call his friends for help on posts HAHA .. but again ...  your friends are not helping on this posts ..  again .. they are useless for the troubleshooting ... sickboy and desert  u can go to General Room .. so u can be judge and give opinions ... this is a troubleshooting Room .. its made to try to help others .. not flame them or be judge on what u think its right or wrong ..  im careless of what you guys thing is wrong or right ...  i repeat .. its useless trash .if u have something that it might fix his problem .. or other problems .. then welcome ...  if not .. please reserve your comments posts and judging to the general Room . thanks again. no more reply's ill make for useless comments. AA is Grrrreat !!  I dont really like the tone of the "friends" etc stuff, but it doesn't really matter. I must admit that I agree with you. A troubleshooting thread is for troubleshooting and those that can help with it should respond. (Altough in that case, the customer should also not integrate his opinion into the problem report ) Anyway, I will refrain myself from these kinds of discussions unless I have something to add towards fixing the problems. I wish you all good luck with the problems and hope you find a fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flannk 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Quote[/b] ]Spongebo ... yes ... the problem is with both .. Nvidia and ATI .. i just now know how to eliminate the ATI problem ..for that error to dissapear in ATI users.. you must Install driver 7.2 and catalyst 7.1 i been testing it .. and it works in vista 32 & 64 hope someone could try it on XP & XP64 And problem will be solved .. thats for ATI .. my guess is that .. someone has to try to do the same .. on Nvidia . That's not true. I deinstalled Catalyst 7.2 after reading your post. Then I installed Catalyst 7.1. I'm using Windows Vista x32 here. And I still have the error, after approx. 5 minutes of play. I also added the game to the DEP list of Windows, this also doesnt help. I still have to try the '-maxmem=512' option. BI! COME UP WITH A QUICKFIX PLEASE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest_Gump 0 Posted March 14, 2007 i said ... drivers 7.2  catalyst 7.1 not both 7.1  test it like that ...  just make custom install hope it helps u fix it  BTW i duno what you did with that maxmex-512 move u made ..  doesnt sound quite good to me .. i think u shouldnt have done that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonko the sane 2 Posted March 15, 2007 i think i can reproduce this error on my 8800gtx under XP SP2, running 100.87 drivers alt-tab out of the game, turn off v-sync and triple buffering , return to game and usualy i get the 8007000e message after a while. doing it before game launch causes no instability on my pc. on a sidenote, with v-sinch on i get up to 60fps, and map (M) loads slower, without it, i get between 30 to 40 fps and map loads instantaneously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skaven 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Add me to the list, I have the same error from like 20 to 20 minutes. I have Vista, an E6600, 2GB of Ram and an ATI x1950XT with the latest drivers installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flannk 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Quote[/b] ]i said ... drivers 7.2 Â catalyst 7.1 not both 7.1 Â So I install the full Catalyst 7.1 package, and then only install the 7.2 DRIVERS, not the rest, not the 7.2 control panel etc,? BI: Â BTW, using X1800GTO here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snake22000 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Run ArmA with -maxmem=512 and all will be solved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skaven 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Decreasing the memory the game uses may help in this error but will bring you a lot of other problems like reduced graphical quality and general lag, it will increase the usage of the processor instead of the memory, in theory this isn't positive at all, specially for playing smoothly. It seems to me that this problem may be due to the excess of memory the game uses because of the size of the islands and the quality of the textures, I will study this a little bit more. With patch 1.05 BIS increased the usage of memory by the game for users with more than 1.024 Mbytes of memory. This is a positive idea, Vista follows exactely the same principle, it turns things smoother and decreases the usage of electricity since the processor works a lot less. However this has to be done carefully or it will turn the system unstable and it doesn't seem to have been worked that way. Maybe Maruk or someone from BIS can give us their opinion here? Is the (maxmem) a good workaround for now or is there a better one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suma 8 Posted March 15, 2007 Quote[/b] ]Maybe Maruk or someone from BIS can give us their opinion here? Is the (maxmem) a good workaround for now or is there a better one? By using the option -maxmem=512 you basically get the same behaviour as there was with 1.04, therefore I consider it a good workaround. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest_Gump 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Flannk  dont try to patch one over the other .. first install 7.2 custom and install only driver .... then install  7.1 custom ...  only catalyst ...  but dont use driver 7.1 and then on top of that install 7.2 doesnt work like that. Hope it helps Amigo  AA .... is Grrrreat !  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=MaVerick=- 0 Posted March 15, 2007 Hey there, I also got this problem from time to time so i messed around with this -maxmem a bit...it didnt get better, it didnt get worse. Tried 512, 1024 and some numbers in between and now i got it disabled with no noteable difference. I dont know whats causing this crashes, but i know for sure that its quite annoying... Specs are: XP SP2 Intel C2D 6400 @ 2.13 GHZ Asus GF 7950 GT 512MB with newest official and beta drivers (tried both) X-Fi music 2GB GEiL DDR2 RAM etc etc The most interesting thing is that i never had this Error with my old CPU/GPU/RAM (XP3000+, GF6800 AGP, 1,5GB DDR1 RAM). At least ArmA looks better now...when its not crashing. Greetz mav Btw.... First Post in this forum, weeeee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berowe 0 Posted March 16, 2007 This error isn't just occurring in vista and it isn't just with 8800s. I don't understand why you all think there is some vista/8800 conspiracy. You're ignoring all the people who have posted saying they have XP and a non 8800 card, and most likely chasing ghosts. Anyway to mitigate this problem I have found this to work: 1. Don't alt-tab even once- start up things like TS beforehand, and if you're editing restart ARMA after 5-10 alt-tabs or before previewing mission. 2. Lower your viewdistance and AA 3. Chill out and wait for a fix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-IEF- Mp 0 Posted March 17, 2007 I have ArmA updated with 1.05.. the game crash on desktop always and show this message: i have this system: Cpu: Core 2 Duo E6600 Mb: P5B Deluxe Sv: Geffo 7950GX2 1gb ddr3 Ram: 2x1gb 667mhz ddr2 Hd: Raptor 74gb 10000rpm thanks for support and sorry for my bad english Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0 Posted March 17, 2007 Hi! I'm not sure about the solution to this problem.. but as a general advise you could download the latest drivers for your Mainboard: http://support.asus.com/downloa....0Deluxe (BIOS update not needed !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-=MaVerick=- 0 Posted March 17, 2007 Hi, theres allready a Thread about this error.. take a look at this -> click me! Greetz mav Share this post Link to post Share on other sites