vilas 477 Posted January 20, 2007 "2. Not sure what you are talking about here, ive no texture loss because the HDR, ive seen the HDR going too bright a few times but when a moved it was back to normal again. The HDR going too bright/dark happens to some people constantly though, but no real relation between them in system specs." than what is on my screen above with soldier + FAL? sometimes this happens inside buildings sometimes soldiers or weapons are "silver-grey" when you are near because of HDR turn this sh*** off many people wanna have possibility to turn of this sick HDR really - it is only game that is unplayable after 30 minutes because of memory block up engine is not cleaning unused textures or something if game is good for first 20 minutes of play and after reloading to "m", or mission retry there are textures and LODs missing than this is due to wrong engine of game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted January 20, 2007 ... Thats not texture loss, its the HDR going to the brightest setting, ive experienced it a few times aswell, but in your case its ruining the game. Quote[/b] ]this is due to wrong engine of game Well, that would be true if everyone experienced it, but there are only a few reports about it and there seems to be no relation between your PCs (just checked it again). If everyone would have it it would surely be caused by the game, however only a few people have it, so its probably a HW+game conflict, but because all the hardware is different we cannot find a pattern here and noone knows where to start looking for a fix. However, if you have some kind of hardware gamma (or any other kind of gamma/brightness setting) in your videocarddriver options, try turning them of or setting them to default. (as a possible fix for the HDR) EDIT: Oh, and i wish we could turn of the HDr aswell, its the only thing preventing me enjoying this game for 100%, its way overdone and hurts my eyes after a while... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vilas 477 Posted January 20, 2007 only few reports ? in Poland many but how was it with start ( http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=56216 )? i wrote to them 3 e-mails without any answer, so now they cannot say "we have no report" (i mean polis distributor LEM) you know what helped ? at the end i instaled alcohol and run game from deamon tools i had clear system - and game was telling i have emulating software, but i hadn't any after i installed this all works ? of course you can turn back, but i doesn't change reality behind your back or maybe polish distributor (that not reads emails) just doesn't report BIS ? i live in country where is full game not demo, many tests were carried/conducted with different software - on p olish forum there was topic man used Everest software to test RAM at the beginning of gaming 300 MB used, after some 40 minutes 950 MB (next mission) i know people that have 7950 GTX card with a lot of RAM and they have problems too if people with strong and powerfull PC have problems than ... ? this is "game" so it should work on home PC not a super graphic stations with many VGA, many processors but this game acts like *** many people have problems, but how many of them is registered here on this forum ? game works good for 20-30 minutes in case i dont use "map", or retry mission after fail or beeing shoot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MuteAssassin 0 Posted January 21, 2007 I had no idea this game was do diffrent from 1 pc to the next. It funs fine on mine 2560 x 1024 16:9 on dual 19" everything up, view distance at default. My Specs. SILVERSTONE SST-TJ05B-X Black ATX Mid Tower Case ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe AMD Motherboard AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz Socket 939 oc to 2.38GHz ZALMAN CNPS9500Cooling Fan 2x Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200 RPM SerialATA HD (RAID-0) stripe CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) TWINX2048-3500LLPRO SILVERSTONE ZEUS SST-ST65ZF 650W Power Supply BFG Tech. 7800GTOC 256MB Viedo card Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Fatal1ty SONY DRU800A 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Koutech IO-FPM220 3.5" Floppy Drive & Multi Card Reader 2x Samsung 930B 19" lcd monitor Nostromo N52 Gamepad Longitech G5 Laser mouse Longitech G15 Gaming keyboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddmatt 1 Posted January 21, 2007 ... Vilas, go into the game's video options and set both brightness and gamma to 1.00. Some people have solved their HDR problems like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jensen1 0 Posted January 21, 2007 I hope bis is reading this.... this game has the greatest potential, the 505 version should be the "real" copy, we've, in my opinion, have been playing a beta... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pathetic_berserker 4 Posted January 21, 2007 Just to let you know that some of the tips and tricks do work. My Comp. CPU 3G Ram 1G HD 250G SATA Graphics 7950GT 512M Yesterday was my first serious MP experience and I have to say that untill then my brief look at the Demo made me wonder what the hell every one was complaining about. After about 1hr 45min on CTL I noticed things started looking jerky and some textures started dropping out. Today I turned down the AA and AF to low, set every thing else to NORMAL and didn't notice any textures drop out till after I'd gone more than 6hrs. Now I know this still is'nt quite perfect,(esp for a good Graphics card) but I have to admit I've noticed only a small hit to appearance compared to previous settings, and I'm unlikely to ever go more than 6hrs in a sitting. Still BIS if there is enything you can do? We'd all be very gratefull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorbtek 0 Posted January 23, 2007 I found it strange that the game sometimes loads faster when my graphics are set on a higher setting, then when it's on a lower setting it takes longer. Might just be my imagination or a real odd coin flip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom Mark 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Can anybody please suggest some settings which work smooth with the following spec, I was getting a slide show last night near bushes especialy. Suggested ingame settings, resolution, driver settings etc would all be very much appreciated thanks ----------------------------------------- ThermalTake Armor Liquid Cooled Case QX6700 Quad Core Duo 2 EVGA 680i Mobo 2gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator 8500 C5 XFX 8800GTX using forceware 97.92 WHQL Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty 24inch Dell 2407WFP with a native res of 1920x1200 ------------------------------------------ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Can anybody please suggest some settings which work smooth with the following spec, I was getting a slide show last night near bushes especialy.Suggested ingame settings, resolution, driver settings etc would all be very much appreciated thanks ----------------------------------------- ThermalTake Armor Liquid Cooled Case QX6700 Quad Core Duo 2 EVGA 680i Mobo 2gb Corsair XMS2 Dominator 8500 C5 XFX 8800GTX using forceware 97.92 WHQL Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty 24inch Dell 2407WFP with a native res of 1920x1200 ------------------------------------------ Looking at your system specs i can't see any settings which would cause a slide show anyways. There must be a problem with your system somewhere else if you don't get smooth gameplay. Though lots of people with G8800 reported having issues so it could be caused by that and the only thing you can do in this case is to wait for a fix. One thing: try to set everything to high or very high but keep a realistic viewdistance (below 3000). If you want to turn down some things, try to disable shadows and in nvidia control panel disable v-sync. Also check that in nvidia control panel all relevant settings are set to: aplication controlled. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olemissrebel 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Disable AA, and AF, Turn off shadows and Post Processing, and play. It will work great! If it does, from there, slowly bump those settings back up until you find a nice balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom Mark 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Thanks............. Will spend some time fiddling around with it again tonight then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paragraphic l 2 Posted January 23, 2007 If bushes and such are a big problem for your FPS go into your drivers control panel and search for something like 'Transparancy Antialiasing' change the setting to 'multisampling' instead of 'supersampling', for me it even works beter than setting it to 'none'. After this you will still have a slight drop but not as much as with the other settings, this works for me with a nVidia GeForce Go 6800 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sbsmac 0 Posted January 23, 2007 I'd be interested to hear how you get on since I'm about to purchase a very similar system (dual rather than quad core) and have the same monitor. Earlier posts have suggested that the latest Nvidia drivers might actually give worse performance so you might want to roll back to earlier drivers. For reference, I have also seen posts from RN Escobar suggesting that he runs at high frame rates with an 8800 GTX and core duo 6600 overclocked to 3.2GHz, albeit at 1600x1200. Good luck ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted January 23, 2007 If bushes and such are a big problem for your FPSgo into your drivers control panel and search for something like 'Transparancy Antialiasing' change the setting to 'multisampling' instead of 'supersampling', for me it even works beter than setting it to 'none'. After this you will still have a slight drop but not as much as with the other settings, this works for me with a nVidia GeForce Go 6800 But he got a G8800, which shouldn't have problems with AA or AF at all - same with postprocessing. The most problems being reported in combination with G8800 were about VRAM not being refreshed properly and thus leading into non-playability until alt-tabbe'd twice. Noone so far reported having had to minimize his settings to make it playable - look at Phantom's specs - it's not a low end system we're talking about. Again i say: keep in mind that there is probably something wrong in your system's configuration or setup rather than in game setup if you experience performance drops right from start. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neildood 0 Posted January 23, 2007 http://forums.bistudio.com/oldsmileys/banghead.gif' alt='banghead.gif'> (but looks nice) AMD3800+ @2.8GHZ 2GIG 7900GS 670/1660 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee_h._oswald 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Thanks.............Will spend some time fiddling around with it again tonight then. Better wait for the patch.... Every minute you spend with configuring ArmA is wasted time. MfG Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom Mark 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Quote[/b] ]Again i say: keep in mind that there is probably somethingwrong in your system's configuration or setup rather than in game setup if you experience performance drops right from start. ~S~ CD My system pulls 16500 3d marks in 3dmark 05....... Pulls over 125 fps in cockpit in GTR2 max details 1920x1600 Pulls over 100fps in RACE max details 1920x1600 Even funs FSX at a reasonable detail level, in fact runs pretty much everything I throw at it no problem at all. Just seems to be a AA problem for some reason, im not so stuck up to believe my system may be setup absolutely perfect but I have a fair indication everything is running pretty well at least. I develop games for a living aswell, so I do have reasonable know how on setting up my system, again that doesnt mean I havnt missed a trick somewhere down the line  Again thanks for your help in an attempt at squashing this problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted January 23, 2007 Well, like i already said in my first post: you could be one of the winners who have the best GPU but it's having issues in combo with ArmA. Also many dual core users experiencing unreasonable problems in relation to their expected performance. It's just that there's nothing to compare with ArmA when it comes to performance questions since there are a lot of aspects taking influence on it, which in almost every other game isn't the case (at least that massive). Your graphics card should have no prob at all dealing with AA in ArmA, since my G7950 GT KO also hasn't. Like Lee already mentioned it could be that you have to wait for a fix - only problem i can see is that there is still nothing been discovered that has to be fixed besides simply performance problems. But the source hasn't been found yet so it could take a while until it's getting fixed. I dunno who but someone posted a few pages before that it's BIS responsibility to get in contact with NVIDIA about the issues with G8800. I'm not really sure if this is that true since there are three sides; The user who bought the game and the graphics card. BIS who developed a game and want to sell it. NVIDIA technology based hardware manufacturers who also want to see their product being sold. Now the question of who is responsible to get in contact with who i can't see written anywhere - but i think somewhere in the middle. Noone gains anything if he's just waiting for the other side to do their duties. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karl76 0 Posted January 23, 2007 I dunno who but someone posted a few pages before thatit's BIS responsibility to get in contact with NVIDIA about the issues with G8800. I'm not really sure if this is that true since there are three sides; The user who bought the game and the graphics card. BIS who developed a game and want to sell it. NVIDIA technology based hardware manufacturers who also want to see their product being sold. Now the question of who is responsible to get in contact with who i can't see written anywhere - but i think somewhere in the middle. Noone gains anything if he's just waiting for the other side to do their duties. It was me who said that and I stand by it. Why? Nvidia handles driver developement and bug reports "in-house". End-users CAN´T directly contact Nvidia and forward bug reports. Sure end-users can report problems to card manufacturers but I highly doubt they properly forward bug reports as its not their job to develop (driver) software or the games. This puts the job of bug reports back in BIS hands and their publishers who are selling the game and want people to keep it and not get returned copies of the game. Nvidias job is to work out problem that are related to their cards (drivers), and if that doesn´t fix the problem, work with the devs and possibly even send them the hardware (8800 cards) and encourage/support them to find a solution. The end-users are responsible to make sure its not a hardware issue, and obviously the problem with Arma and the 8800 is not hardware but software (drivers and/or Arma) since basically all 8800 owners have the problem and this takes the "end-user error" out of equation. It´s true that its a common interest for both Nvidia and BIS and their publishers to work out possible issues together. If nobody takes control and their responisiblity, they don´t have to be surprised if sales for whatever product (the hardware or software) decreases. I certainly hope the "waiting for the other side" policy is not happening right now, because I can clearly see the potential of Arma and good it looks and performs on the 8800 (during the limited time frame until the problem shows). It would be a shame if this problem couldn´t get fixed because of some dumb politics. I´m willing to wait until March/April, but I surely hope we see a solution earlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marines 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Well, it looks as if next-gen AMD processors may indeed be a contributing factor, as I've read quite a few posts where AMD users experience problems. This could explain why myself, when reinstalling the OS and changing the GPU, had little effect. Then explain why my AMD x2 4200+ (and im not the only one) has no problems at all. The problems appears to be totally random, which isnt really logical for PCs.. I hear ya, brother! AMD 64 X2 5000+ 3G RAM Radeon 1900XT I will say that is seems that more AMD users experience more problems than others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetalG 0 Posted January 24, 2007 I have this problem on my PC where everything runs just fine, in forests even, but when I enter cities the texture loading seems to get screwed up. My HD is at those moments loading all the time, when I look to one side, look away, then look back again the textures are gone and need to be loaded in again. Very annoying since it makes it practically unplayable. Using the -maxmem=1024 command I got rid of this to some extend, there's still some loading going on in these instances however it's definately not as bad as without the maxmem command, and it's actually quite playable again. However the downside is that the game starts to CTD a lot, in multiplayer as well as in singleplayer which is not happening without the maxmem command. It's like my PC is defragging or scanning for virusses in the background or something, which is definately not happening. I find it weird that textures of for example nearby walls are being reloaded when I look away for only a second or so. Now I don't know much about all the technical details however this seems quite inefficient to me... Specs are AMD 64 4000+, 2GB RAM, A8N SLI premium mobo, Raptor 10.000 rpm HD and Ati X1950XTX video card, using 6.12 drivers. Also, PC has been formatted a day ago and the HD defragged. Playing the German download version, 1.02, no extra addons or language patches installed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Well the maxme=1024 is known to cause CTD's Try using 768 instead and see what happens then. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soulfly3 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Hello everyone, Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I'm new to the forums but not to pc gaming. I have a 3 year old alienware pc atm and I cannot afford to buy another rig atm. I just purchased a home and I'm strapped. Here are my specs on my old pc. 3ghz ht intel 2gigs of ram 6800gt 256mg. I would like to atleast upgrade my card, but my mobo only handles x4/x8 cards. This is the only I could find that will work with my mobo. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161069 x1950pro 512mb Is it worth spending $300? Will I get a noticeable performance? Thanks, Soulfly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sobrek 0 Posted January 24, 2007 Well the maxme=1024 is known to cause CTD's Try using 768 instead and see what happens then. ~S~ CD With maxmem=786 you just need a bit longer, but I was able to reproduce the same problems as with maxmem=1024. After that I decided to stop using this parameter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites