martinovic 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ] the mod will cover a hypothetical war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact in 1985 I don't want to be a party pooper, but... Mister nuke wouldn't allow much fighting between conventional armies, not in Germany atleast. So, uhh, can you tell me what kind of background story you have in mind to prevent the above mentioned mushroom type from emerging? Edit: with the new HDR and DX9 effects you guys could make a realistic nuke that blinds the player even 80km away. Would be nice, are you guys planning any nukes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crassus 0 Posted September 21, 2006 If anyone else is looking for ideas for a new mod.... Sword Point, by Harold Coyle I think. Russia invades Iran, the U.S. goes in to "help"(?) the Iranians (I think that was the premise). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ] the mod will cover a hypothetical war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact in 1985 I don't want to be a party pooper, but... Mister nuke wouldn't allow much fighting between conventional armies, not in Germany atleast. So, uhh, can you tell me what kind of background story you have in mind to prevent the above mentioned mushroom type from emerging? Edit: with the new HDR and DX9 effects you guys could make a realistic nuke that blinds the player even 80km away. Would be nice, are you guys planning any nukes? Read the book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgtxmaradona 0 Posted September 21, 2006 i wish i knew how to code or mod. bummer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kavoven 4 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ] the mod will cover a hypothetical war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact in 1985 I don't want to be a party pooper, but... Mister nuke wouldn't allow much fighting between conventional armies, not in Germany atleast. So, uhh, can you tell me what kind of background story you have in mind to prevent the above mentioned mushroom type from emerging? Edit: with the new HDR and DX9 effects you guys could make a realistic nuke that blinds the player even 80km away. Would be nice, are you guys planning any nukes? Read the book. Just wanted to say that Sounds very interesting, especially that it takes place in Germany... Do you plan to include some of this "Sea-Scenes" like the bombing of the NATO aircraft carriers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted September 21, 2006 No, out of our scope. They'd only be used for cutscenes. The only way I could forsee using ships is if someone wanted to make a module of Polish marines landing on Denmark or Soviet naval infanty landing in Iceland or Norway (or US/UK/NL Marines landing to retake Iceland/Norway). Right now we're concentrating on Germany. Given the time and motivation we can move elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Serclaes 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Wish i would have abilities in 3dsmax or in texturing... Guys, please, make the best out of it. We are all supporting you. I'm including you into my non-religious prayers tonight and for the next months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call911-AGE- 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Oh Man I read "Red Storm Rising" like 3 or 4 times. No it is difficult but would be cool to see some of the engadgements like the Assult on Iceland both the initial Russian invasion an the Nato(American) invasion to take it back. Also what about the Battle for the Atlantic against the Red Fleet Submarine forces, an the Attack on the USS Nimitz. Keeping my eyes on this 1! Also "Team Yankee" was a good storyline from Harold Coyle too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted September 21, 2006 So far its only about the clash in Germany, lets see how this turns out and then we can think about other scenarios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinovic 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ]Read the book. Not interested. So tell me, why wouldn't the USSR launch nukes, BUT a ground assault into Germany? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted September 21, 2006 Why would anyone use ArmA to simulate a naval campaign? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ]Read the book. Not interested. So tell me, why wouldn't the USSR launch nukes, BUT a ground assault into Germany? I'm not interested in telling you. How about that? We'll announce our scenario later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tankieboy 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Please create Fallingbostel town, so I can relive staggering around it blind drunk for seven years… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinovic 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ]I'm not interested in telling you. How about that? Sounds like you don't know either. Quote[/b] ]We'll announce our scenario later. But you already announced it; "the mod will cover a hypothetical war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact in 1985". This is what i could find out about the book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Storm_Rising#Plot_summary Far fetched... one terrorist attack on some azerbaijani oil refinery or something crushes the entire Soviet economy. Whoa. At 1985 the USSR wasn't beefy enough for anything... the mod should be set in the 70s, they had better helmets back then anyway, ahwell your mod not mine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAA 127 Posted September 21, 2006 Substantial part of Czech and Slovak addon-making community has just commenced research and development of new content for Arma, which will be part of Warsaw Pact armies for G85. Few renders of our work follow... You know, Eastern armies don't sleep. Work In Progress: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted September 21, 2006 @martinovic Stop spammin the thread ya ass  Quote[/b] ]ahwell your mod not mine. Exactly.  Ontopic...very cool pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ]I'm not interested in telling you. How about that? Sounds like you don't know either. Quote[/b] ]We'll announce our scenario later. But you already announced it; "the mod will cover a hypothetical war between NATO and the Warsaw Pact in 1985". This is what i could find out about the book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Storm_Rising#Plot_summary Far fetched... one terrorist attack on some azerbaijani oil refinery or something crushes the entire Soviet economy. Whoa. At 1985 the USSR wasn't beefy enough for anything... the mod should be set in the 70s, they had better helmets back then anyway, ahwell your mod not mine. Wow! Our very first troll! If you don't like it, go away. Simple as that. A lot of people have already put a lot of time and effort into this project and we know we're not going to make everyone happy. So go away. Simple as that. Walk away from this thread and it won't bother you anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue_Flight 0 Posted September 21, 2006 people, the idea and the concept behind this modification is amazing and well thought. I will folllow the progress of this mod with high interest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Average Joe 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Those Renders are all so nice, ill be keeping up to speed with this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mickuzy 0 Posted September 21, 2006 so..freakin...cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted September 21, 2006 Quote[/b] ]So tell me, why wouldn't the USSR launch nukes, BUT a ground assault into Germany? What would be the interest for the Warsaw Pact to launch nukes on Western Europe massed armies knowing perfectly that it would trigger all NATO nukes to be launched immediately on them ? What would be the interest for the NATO to launch nuke on Eastern Europe massed armies, knowing perfectly that it would trigger all Warsaw Pact nukes to be launched immediately on them ? None of the 2 sides had a single interest in invading huge heavily radioactive waste land in order to gain more sphere of influence for their political doctrine. That's why a conventional warfare between NATO and Warsaw Pact is not out of logic in a direct confrontation despite both sides had several time the amount of nuke necessary to burn the planet. ...at least not before one of the 2 side is in the process to be totally invaded and utterly defeated, in which i logically see nuke being launched by some dentist madman in their last instants if some plane amateur blackops does not destroy the scud launchers first Nuke has never been assault weapons, but last ressort weapons, else you would have already seen a lot of them being used considering lots of countries have access to them, openly or "secretly" and are not exactly at peace very often. The screenshots look really awesome, definitively a huge mod of an incredible quality is preparing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinovic 0 Posted September 21, 2006 Sheesh you guys and your sensibilities, i was just pointing out that Tom Clancy's novel is a fairy tale. No need to take offense, you guys ain't eastern european after all and don't know just how incapable the USSR was under that powerful outer appearance. Like for example everyone hated the russians, everyone. Polish, romanian, ukrainian, czech, slovak, hungarian, you name it. The warsaw pact was fragile, very fragile. By '85 the USSR was just 4 years away from complete collapse and you tell me that they could've started WW3. Anyway do what you want, if any kind of criticism is met with hostility then fine, sheesh just don't bite my head off! I'm sorry, i'm sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TeRp 1 Posted September 21, 2006 Well, we could also do a nuke campaign, featuring a single mission: Intro: War is declared Mission: Errrrrrr.. wait 2 minutes. Outro: Boooooooooooooooom! Campaign won or perhaps not. That'd be a nice mod, we wouldn't even need more than 2 addons. Yeah, I think we should do it this way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ukraineboy 0 Posted September 21, 2006 As long as this game is actually specifically said to be based off of Red Storm Rising and not claimed to be a "historical reenactment" I am fine with this. Key Soviet and NATO defensive doctrines clearly state that Tactical Nuclear weapons would have been used. No ifs ands or buts here. It all depends on who attacks. if USA attacked USSR, USSR would be the first to use nukes even if USA does not. Same vice versa. After the 50's, the Soviet plan of attack involved more than 320 individual tactical nuclear detonations over NATO troop concentrations at zero hour. However if you clearly state this is in fact a fantasy, and not a historical reenactment I think everyone can be fine with that. However, with the end of this I have to give my utmost praise for this mod. It's damn time mods stop these small development teams and merge into large ones to make better quality addons. OFP's form of addon communities of individual addons released will not work anymore, it's out dated. We need to move on to large mod teams working on projects, releasing large mods. I fully support this mod. As for martinovic aka russophobic crazy man, I am just going to laugh at your comments and move on. Learn your history... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted September 21, 2006 Please create Fallingbostel town, so I can relive staggering around it blind drunk for seven years? After I finish my part of the islands you can give me some reference material and maybe I can help you. Big Maybe on that one but if its cool terrain there is a good chance I could do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites