PainDealer 0 Posted September 27, 2006 this is gonna be bigger then any game out there too date!! Anyone who dont realise this well, your loss. and it's very sad if we don't get the game just cos publishers are blind if I just had the money... I'd be the world wide publisher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAA3057 0 Posted September 27, 2006 I say BIS to scrap the entire project just to see you alls faces while they drink their Czech wine and smoke Cuban cigars on inclined leather seats near a beach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call911-AGE- 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Sick, just sick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seany1212 0 Posted September 27, 2006 i'll probably wait a bit as there could be bugs with them wanting to finish it so quickly, i mean, look at X3:Reunion, it was rushed out on sale at a point of which it was barely playable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted September 27, 2006 i'll probably wait a bit as there could be bugs with them wanting to finish it so quickly, i mean, look at X3:Reunion, it was rushed out on sale at a point of which it was barely playable still X3 re-release on Steam was very sucessfull (as at time of release it was only version w/o StarForce) ... Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Quote[/b] ]while they drink their Czech wine Never imagined such beverage even exists... I guess online distribution is ok if it doesn't require some sort of online activation each time you play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoak 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I just dont understand, like the rest of you, WHY no North American pub will pick this up. Jesus OFP was game of the year! how can this be overlooked LOL. I know who is to BLAME......E3! All those "are PC games on the way out?" Crap...this has to be the problem. Or maybe they are refusing publishers that are like "we'll pub your game if you let up cut it up into pieces and sell it off as mods" Pretty much; all the big Publishers that can cut a reasonable offer and afford worthwhile retail slotting contracts in the U.S. already either have Publishing deals with Studios, or a project being developed by an in house Studio that they perceive as being in competition with a games like AA for market share... Â Big Publishers just don't want to risk watering down appeal and especially the revenue stream of game 'franchises' known to sell well in the short term and make a lot of money. Â Moreover the long shelf-life of games like OFP (and that AA promises to be) scares the big guns for all the same reasons; a sustainable product isn't self-obsolescing, competes with multiple planed products, and doesn't scare up the big fast revenue that quickly covers development costs, impresses share-holders, and can be ditched fast for another rapid earner. Sound, sain, sustainable, slow-burn business practice is just not part and parcel of the U.S. economy; especially not the entertainment industries -- much to our loss... Small Publishers, make poor Pubishing offers, can't afford much in the way of retail slotting contracts and are economically ineffectual as far as marketing and advertising in the U.S. as most of the marketing and advertising channel is co-owned by the big Publishers... Â The U.S. game market is not a tough market, it's an unfair one; based on ugly business practices... Still if BI gets hooked up with a decent Online Distribution Provider like Steam; they'll do well -- those that criticize D2D are dead on, and it would be really unfortunate if BI resorted to using them as a Partner; heck I could set them up as their own E-Tailer/Publisher more profitably then D2D will be able to.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted September 28, 2006 Quote[/b] ]while they drink their Czech wine Never imagined such beverage even exists... I guess online distribution is ok if it doesn't require some sort of online activation each time you play. of course they exist http://www.wineofczechrepublic.cz/index.php?lang=en Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sturmwolf 0 Posted September 28, 2006 If the Online distributed version is playable without cd it must be "naturally" cracked. therefore bis ships a crack, for all those who not legally get the game, themselves? This raises the probability of starforce protection Whatya say guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted September 28, 2006 If the Online distributed version is playable without cd it must be "naturally" cracked. therefore bis ships a crack, for all those who not legally get the game, themselves?This raises the probability of starforce protection Whatya say guys? As opposed to waiting for 6 hours before somebody else cracks it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted September 28, 2006 If the Online distributed version is playable without cd it must be "naturally" cracked. therefore bis ships a crack, for all those who not legally get the game, themselves?This raises the probability of starforce protection Whatya say guys? it depends how is online distrubution system done ... plus i see no point to have protection for Single-Player part ... that will be always sooner or later "crackable" until You implemented protection based on online security system (checks, updates etc) yet no 100% still ... key is to protect Multi-Player part correctly (key/ID validation etc) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
majorpwnage 0 Posted September 28, 2006 To be honest, as long as I am able to get the game in my language it doesnt matter if its online distribution, or in a retail box, or mailed to me on 10,000 3.5" floppies. Â Besides do you honestly care what the DVD case looks like? Â I prefer to focus on the content, which seems like what BIS is doing at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-CS-SOBR-1st-I-R- 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I dont like this conversation at all ... cracking for me is unequal to OFP/ArmA. This great game is worth so much, that im happy to pay the price for it. It would devaluate the real value of the game if someone would crack it.... real dedicated gamers (ofp'lers) would not crack it but get their own, single version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coderdfox 0 Posted September 28, 2006 SOBR[1st-I-R] @ Sep. 28 2006,21:12)]I dont like this conversation at all ...cracking for me is unequal to OFP/ArmA. This great game is worth so much, that im happy to pay the price for it. It would devaluate the real value of the game if someone would crack it.... real dedicated gamers (ofp'lers) would not crack it but get their own, single version. No one was really talking about Cracking the game, just that an online dist would not have a cd check built into it. But this whole talk about cracking should stop. The threads about onlind dist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eurotrash 0 Posted September 28, 2006 It wont ship with starforce, vista blocks the installation of starforce by default. So if BIS wants their game playable for more than a month it wont ship with starforce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted September 28, 2006 It wont ship with starforce, vista blocks the installation of starforce by default. Â So if BIS wants their game playable for more than a month it wont ship with starforce. Like anything would work on vista until service pack 1 comes out.. Quote[/b] ]cracking for me is unequal to OFP/ArmA. This great game is worth so much, that im happy to pay the price for it. It would devaluate the real value of the game if someone would crack it.... real dedicated gamers (ofp'lers) would not crack it but get their own, single version. Cracking != not owning the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trickyb 0 Posted September 28, 2006 I would like a box as well But if it meant i was getting a day/week/month before it made it to hard copy in the uk then my orders in now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gonk 0 Posted September 28, 2006 Great news!!.. Â Just when is the on-line version available? Â Just curious how this will be done? Â One universal download and they sell keys? Â I guess this is not the most secure but probably the most convenient to the user. As this will allow people with slow connections to use a cd from a Mate who has broadband. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snots 0 Posted September 29, 2006 We need an English version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XCess 0 Posted September 30, 2006 I just hope that if they don't find a publisher in the UK we will be able to get the game via an FTP download which will provide us with a CD/DVD image file (.iso, .cue/bin etc) rather than steam style crap which is tied into a third party program. I'd much rather be able to burn my own disc and run the game from that than have it sitting on my hard drive inside steam or any other software. With the amount of re-installs I've had to do for Operation Flashpoint I'd hate to have it on the hard drive.. if the computer goes wrong you have to re-download the whole thing, whereas if the download is of an image file, and you have it burned to a DVD you just stick the disc back in and reinstall. Ofcourse.. a boxed version would be much better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErAsEr-1 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Yeh but we r forgetting somethin, what happened to the demo of ArmA is there gonna be one.? they cant just release the game what if it doesnt work on your PC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garcia 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Why can't they just release the game? If it doesn't work on your computer, it's you fault for not checking specs... And what does a demo have to do with online disribution? I want a box... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAA3057 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Yeh but we r forgetting somethin, what happened to the demo of ArmA is there gonna be one.? they cant just release the game what if it doesnt work on your PC. Some sites like Nvidia have a game-to-system compatibility test. Find out ArmA's specs then find another game that is equal to and run the test just to estimate. Yeah I know, it isn't going to be the same, just making my contribution. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benreeper 0 Posted September 30, 2006 I you think the game won't run on your pc. it won't. --Ben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BraTTy 0 Posted October 1, 2006 I really like the idea of online download.I don't need the cd/box I like the idea of cdkey/login account.Eliminating the need for the cd/dvd all together is nice. Thats a good system for a multiplayer game, I bought OFP originally for the single player aspect tho And would online download enable the USA to buy the game even if no US distributor ? I'm all for "Steam" also.I see they list and rank their Hot games.If Bis could setup the Steam stuff,of course it would be a hot download if that was the only way it was available in the USA. And Steam would automatically advertise their hot downloads and so would other game news sites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites