PC Discussion Thread - All PC related in here.

[echo1 0]

Myself & CanadianTerror dont have this bug in 1.07b, all CT has is no MP skillz, and thats not something BIS can fix in a patch.

I need some info from you guys...

I've been thinking about adding a new hard drive, would it be best to have two 400GB hard drives or one of the new 1TB hard drives?

Thanks,

Adam

Two 500GB in a raid is faster and costs less. Depends on how fast the 1TB model is though, have any been released yet?

[adumb 0]

Myself & CanadianTerror dont have this bug in 1.07b, all CT has is no MP skillz, and thats not something BIS can fix in a patch.

I need some info from you guys...

I've been thinking about adding a new hard drive, would it be best to have two 400GB hard drives or one of the new 1TB hard drives?

Thanks,

Adam

Two 500GB in a raid is faster and costs less. Depends on how fast the 1TB model is though, have any been released yet?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145143

And i have this one now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136076

I was not sure if two would slow them down or not, and i could just put them in raid like you said.

[wex-q 0]

The difference (except size) is the doubled-up cache, but a friend of mine I asked (who is kind of a whiz) said that 2x500GB in RAID is better than 1x1TB (cheaper, and the cache doesn't matter).

I'd go for 2x500, but do you need that space?

[echo1 0]

Ah yes, the Hitachi. I didnt know they released it yet. Well, $99 is better than $600 for the similar same capacity.

Two hard disks wont slow your system down if you dont have them in RAID. Might be preferable due to the reliability problems with RAID 0 (ie. if one disk goes, you loose all your data).

[wex-q 0]

Can I run a DDRII PC-6400 (400Mhz) memory in a computer designed for DDRI?

Cause then I'll buy 2x1024MB XMS2 Xtreme PC2-6400 for 110 euro (not used, so it aint stolen)

[echo1 0]

Nope, DDR1 & DDR2 are not compatible with eachother. You have to stick to PC3200.

[bonko the sane 2]

right...let's see if anyone can help me:

i got a MSI motherboard model MS-7246 "aka" 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition http://global.msi.com.tw/index.p....at_no=1 and im running WinXP Pro64 SP2 with 2X 1GB pack Kingston HyperX DDR2 (PC2-6400) ref: KHX6400D2LLK2/2G http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX6400D2LL_2G.pdf

My problem is as follows, all is fine with 1X2GB pack, but if i place another 1X2GB of the same model, the OS starts but at logon screen i get some really bad artifacts, i have a E6600 cpu, BFG8800GTX and a Xfi Xtremegamer, all latest official drivers, bios, and Intel chipset utils.

the mobo itself accepts 8GB RAM at 800mhz so im at loss here.

Am i a total noob and two equal same brand, same speed 2X1GB RAM packs cant be used together??  

my sistem is not overclocked, all voltages and speeds are at factory values  

edit: here's my system cpuz report

plz help

edit 2: found the cause, its the latest Nvidia 158.22 64 bit driver that gives me this problem, bah, lousy devs

[shinRaiden 0]

If your RAID is off a generic motherboard chip and not off a dedicated RAID card, you're going to get some noticeable CPU and bandwidth penalties.

[Heatseeker 0]

right...let's see if anyone can help me:

i got a MSI motherboard model MS-7246 "aka" 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition http://global.msi.com.tw/index.p....at_no=1 and im running WinXP Pro64 SP2 with 2X 1GB pack Kingston HyperX DDR2 (PC2-6400) ref: KHX6400D2LLK2/2G http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KHX6400D2LL_2G.pdf

My problem is as follows, all is fine with 1X2GB pack, but if i place another 1X2GB of the same model, the OS starts but at logon screen i get some really bad artifacts, i have a E6600 cpu, BFG8800GTX and a Xfi Xtremegamer, all latest official drivers, bios, and Intel chipset utils.

the mobo itself accepts 8GB RAM at 800mhz so im at loss here.

Am i a total noob and two equal same brand, same speed 2X1GB RAM packs cant be used together??

my sistem is not overclocked, all voltages and speeds are at factory values

edit: here's my system cpuz report

plz help

edit 2: found the cause, its the latest Nvidia 158.22 64 bit driver that gives me this problem, bah, lousy devs

Dual channel? Are you sitting the sticks in the diferent socket channels (A/B)? Stick1 in A1 and stick2 in B1.

Check the mobo manual just in case .

[shadow 6]

Dual channel? Are you sitting the sticks in the diferent socket channels (A/B)? Stick1 in A1 and stick2 in B1.

Check the mobo manual just in case .

Memory configurations doesnt creat video artifacts.

Either the system becomes unstable or wont boot up at all.

I would start by making sure the latest BIOS is installed. Then try both modules separately. If the problem still persist, RMA the motherboard.

Also make sure all memory timings are at default. But since MSI is on my personal blacklist I would RMA the mobo anyways and get a Asus.

Quote[/b] ]If your RAID is off a generic motherboard chip and not off a dedicated RAID card, you're going to get some noticeable CPU and bandwidth penalties.

Shinraiden is right. Onboard RAID-controllers use precious CPU-cycles plus they are nowhere near the performance of a dedicated card. There is a reason why "real" controllers cost 3-4 times the motherboard alone.

[Key Dutch 0]

Hi i have question related to BIOS and powersupply.

1)in BIOS/Advanced chipset settings/PCIe settings

is one option GFX0 slot power limit,WATT

what is all bout? limitation on powersuply of my videocard?If yes how its affect card if limit is 75W and card under full load requaer 280W

2) in same settings, if u have Crossfire configuration, there is another option to limit somekind of GPP power limit,WATT  what this is about? what that GPP means?

and what setting is best, if  u have 1000W PSU , with 2 cards (max power consuming on them 280W)

P.S. Sorry bout mistakes , english not my first language and even not second. ;-)

[JdB 151]

Hi,

You've missed this [stickied thread] appropriatly named "PC Discussion Thread - All PC related in here."

[Key Dutch 0]

yeh i did, but i guess its little bit to l8. there no point make duplication of the post. so i guess right now its  up to moderator to move it there, sorry bout it.

P.S. where is computer gurus when they need it?

[Key Dutch 0]

i post right now, couse origenal post was moved, so peeps can see there is new post at the topic

P.S. Where is all computer Gurus when they need it?

[echo1 0]

Hi i have question related to BIOS and powersupply.

1)in BIOS/Advanced chipset settings/PCIe settings

is one option GFX0 slot power limit,WATT

what is all bout? limitation on powersuply of my videocard?If yes how its affect card if limit is 75W and card under full load requaer 280W

2) in same settings, if u have Crossfire configuration, there is another option to limit somekind of GPP power limit,WATT what this is about? what that GPP means?

and what setting is best, if u have 1000W PSU , with 2 cards (max power consuming on them 280W)

P.S. Sorry bout mistakes , english not my first language and even not second. ;-)

Dont mess with BIOS settings, unless you have reason to do so. The 75W references to the energy supplied to the card by the PCI-E Socket. The rest of the power comes directly from the PSU via. the 6-pin PCI-E cable. That is not regulated by the BIOS.

[Key Dutch 0]

so,what the point of this 75W from mombo? and what stand for GPP?

P.S. U can not advance in to future, with out learning. idea is first find out what its das, then disde mess or not with it. end of the day, i allways can clear BIOS setting if somthing go wrong, by removing battarey or reseting jumpers, or by pressing "Insert" key with if first few seconds of booting.

[echo1 0]

Well, the 75W allows the socket to power lower end graphics cards, and PCI-E cards other than graphics cards (ie. fancy RAID and Network controller cards)

I agree that trying things out is a good way of learning things, but the BIOS should be left alone. Aside from things like overclocking and boot settings, most settings are optimized for best performance for most cases, and are only there for people having problems. Certain settings can do permament damage to your hardware, best not to mess around with things you dont understand.

[Key Dutch 0]

thx man, that explane a lot.

[TheReddog 0]

OK, so I've got all of the components of the system together and will be doing the build over the weekend, the full lineup is;

Intel Core2Duo E6600

MSI P965 Platinum

2GB Corsair Twin2x PC 6400 (800Mhz)

Gainward 8800GTS 320MB

Western Digital 320GB SATAII HDD 7200rpm w/16MB Cache

Pioneer DVD-112 DVD-RW +- DL

Thermaltake Soprano case w/430W PSU

Thermaltake 250W PCI-E GPU Booster <- I already owned this before and though why not, it'll give the 8800 stable and steady power.

I'll probably set up two 50GB partitions, one for XP SP2 and one for Vista, after this I'll create two 100GB partitions for storage.

So how do you guys think it'll run ArmA?

[Johannes 10]

OK, so I've got all of the components of the system together and will be doing the build over the weekend, the full lineup is;

Intel Core2Duo E6600

MSI P965 Platinum

2GB Corsair Twin2x PC 6400 (800Mhz)

Gainward 8800GTS 320MB

Western Digital 320GB SATAII HDD 7200rpm w/16MB Cache

Pioneer DVD-112 DVD-RW +- DL

Thermaltake Soprano case w/430W PSU

Thermaltake 250W PCI-E GPU Booster <- I already owned this before and though why not, it'll give the 8800 stable and steady power.

I'll probably set up two 50GB partitions, one for XP SP2 and one for Vista, after this I'll create two 100GB partitions for storage.

So how do you guys think it'll run ArmA?

sounds good but I´d rather pick the 8800 GTS with 640 mb vram since arma needs a lot of vram due to the big high quality textures used.

[Munky 0]

Im considering upgrading my box.

currently running :

AMD X2 socket AM2, 4200+ [2.2ghz, 512kb cache]

Nvidia 7950GX2

4 gb ram [ddr2]

just wondering if it'd be worth it to upgrade? [mainly for arma]

considering going with the 8800 GTX, and *possibly* switching over to the Core 2 Duo... (if not then probably going up to the AMD X2 6000+)

the main thing im concerned about here is, has anyone heard anything about AMD coming out with a new set of AM2 processors that will outrun the C2D's?

also, has anyone heard anything from ATI or Nvidia on the "next gen" cards? personally i would prefer to wait, but if there arent any solutions scheduled by Q4 of this year or Q1 of next year, i plan on upgrading to the 8800 for DX10.

[stryker20000 0]

Everything that I have read for the search option has lead me here, and I have not found the answer to my question so far, so I hope to get it answered. Are there any PCI video cards that will play ArmA? Excluding the Express ones? I really could care less about graphics, but just a video card that can run it period I would like to have.

[echo1 0]

@Stryker: No, graphics cards that use the standard PCI slot are terrible, because the PCI slot cant carry enough bandwidth. The best PCI cards are best on 2-3 year old budget chipsets, and are overpriced. You'll need an AGP or PCI-E graphics card.

@Munky: The 8800GTX is not much more faster that what you have got at the moment. Theres talk of a new generation of nVidia cards coming out this christmas, and AMD is releasing the new "Phenom" line of processors in a few months. Whether they will be faster than the new "Penryn" Core 2 Duos which are also coming out soon remains to be seen. I think your spec is very good, I wouldnt see any need to upgrade for another year or two, it would just be a waste of money.

[-Snafu- 78]

I'm going to buy a laptop for playing games, using iTunes/iPod, watching films and all that entertainment stuff. But as I don't know a great deal about them I thought I would ask for an opinion here.

This Laptop is looking good to me Linky

Anyone have anything similar? If so how good is it?

Will it be able to play ArmA decently?

Are there any better laptops out there that would suit my needs? Willing to spend up to 1000 GBP.

Any help will be much appreciated.

EDIT: Also thinking about these;

Sony VGN-FE41S

HP dv6331eu

HP dv9340ea

[Gisen 0]

Hi, I've just bought a laptop (well, I just helped my girlfriend buy a laptop, but I still made it as good as possible for as cheap as possible). I found a really usefull page that goes through the various graphics cards you can get in laptops for comparison- these are absolutely the most important part of a gaming machine.

She ended up getting her laptop from this site , can't remember the exact specs but it was better and cheaper than the equivalent VAIO, HP or any other online site I've found in the UK. What I did was try to find one as close to the budget as possible on each site and compare the specs.

She got the laptop about a month ago, for about 800 quid. It's got a ATI Mobility Radeon X1450 (and a 17" screen) and runs ARMA .... to an extent. It's playable but not pretty, haven't tried the new 1.08 patch on it yet though.

*EDIT*

I forgot to mention - AVOID VISTA LIKE THE PLAGUE.

There is NO reason to get it on a laptop. There are no directx 10 mobile graphics cards in any laptop currently being produced. All vista will do to a gaming laptop is slow it down.