berghoff 11 Posted March 4, 2006 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/news/pics3/OFPInfoShot01.jpgIs that a WIP tank in the far left hills? I don't know, but this pictures really shows the ground textures has been improved quite a bit from resistance :P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donnervogel 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Sometimes I think some people mistake ArmA for OFP/Game 2... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ti0n3r Posted March 4, 2006 Sometimes I think some people mistake ArmA for OFP/Game 2... Well, some time ago they said that ArmA is turning out to be a game2 of it's own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GBee 0 Posted March 4, 2006 They (BIS) never said that, Victor Bocan said the following: Quote[/b] ]"Now it's not just an 'extension' or something; the game has become a real successor to Operation Flashpoint in terms of scale, detail and possibilities." BIS have always made clear that Armed Assault is NOT a next generation game but a refurbished OFP. In terms of the features/changes so far it is still worthy of the title OFP2. What most people seem to expect is that Arma will be as groundbreaking as OFP was in it's day. OFP has lasted 5 years, I think that Arma will easily last most people a year or two until Game 2 is available. To those who constantly complain that a modded OFP already looks this good (or better), consider what a modded Arma will be like then! Five years and hundreds of mod makers is of course going to turn out some very high quality material, but BIS can't give their modellers/artists/coders six months to work on producing a single item Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted March 4, 2006 Quote[/b] ]They (BIS) never said that, Victor Bocan said the following:Quote "Now it's not just an 'extension' or something; the game has become a real successor to Operation Flashpoint in terms of scale, detail and possibilities." And Victor Bocan = head of ArmA development team. Does that make him a BIS spokesperson or not? A real successor to OFP would be a ''next generation game'', and not the ''refurbished OFP'' this is turning out to be. The only thing that makes ArmA a real successor to OFP at this moment is the fact that it will be standalone, in other words not requiring an existing OFP installation. Less graphics ''improvements'' and more gameplay improvements would make it a real successor to OFP. But all BIS does is reveal questionable and as it seems half finished/ugly graphics updates and not much in the way of gameplay updates. Not in interviews and not in official press releases. Like Codarl mentioned, we want among other things multiple gunner possibilities, moving around in vehicles, swimming (but keeping it realistic). Things that people have been asking about for years. Let's face it, if all we cared about was pretty graphics, then we would all be playing BF2 and not OFP. What company would release screenshots of stuff that isn't anywhere near finished? I think BIS was quite content with the progress so far, but reading this thread I can sense that quite a few fans and addonmakers disagree... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 0 Posted March 4, 2006 The tank pic is quite a bit reflective, but look at the angle of the rising sun (use the shadows) and you'll see that the angle of reflection is very close to opposing it, I'm sure it'll be fixed. Edit: upon looking again.. screw the f***ing critics.. this is going to ROCK!  details, animations, view distance, number of units able to be in at once...  Stop the freekin whining.  Oh, and this too make me feel a bit better: "Important note from Jiri Rydl: Please consider the information we have provided as “work in progressâ€, we didn’t answer certain questions where answers would begin with “probably†or “maybeâ€, because we don’t want to make any promises we can’t keep, thus it's better not to talk about some topics right now. Thank you for understanding! "  They are still in development for most areas of the project it seems.. good thing IMHO  Here's a pic that SHOULD shine if any.. and it doesn't. non shiny helo LOL too many edits.. one last one "CHIN STRAPS MADE IT!!"  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ti0n3r Posted March 4, 2006 This is what BIS said; Quote[/b] ]XeLSiS - What new features can Modders & Players look forward do?Placebo - For now features of the game are being kept quiet, but we're getting closer to what we can share about it, for sure the game is definitely turning out to be more than the anticipated Opf v1.5 (with the next big game being known as “game2â€), this game is really developing into a "game2" of its own standing, maybe we should start calling the other one "game3" Source: http://xn--kvrulanten-e6a.dk/arma.dk/readarticle.php?article_id=3 Edit: And my opinion? I don't think ArmA will be more than OfpE with a new campaign and island. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donnervogel 0 Posted March 4, 2006 ever heard of advertising They need people to buy it so they make a big fuss about it. What game developers don't? I don't care. I just think it's time for some people to come back to the ground and stop anticipating an all new game. It will still be OFP in one way or another. Brushed up, polished up but the really fancy things we'll get when the next generation game comes out (hence the "next generation") Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celoush 45 Posted March 4, 2006 For Czech customers http://www.xzone.cz/nahledgame.php3?idg=1623 899Kc = 32 euro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmakatra 1 Posted March 4, 2006 ever heard of advertising They need people to buy it so they make a big fuss about it. What game developers don't? I don't care. I just think it's time for some people to come back to the ground and stop anticipating an all new game. It will still be OFP in one way or another. Brushed up, polished up but the really fancy things we'll get when the next generation game comes out (hence the "next generation") The problem is that all the things that we have been wanted BIS to brush up on hasn't been. Like AI, pathfinding, colission detection, multi gunner, moving in vehicles, etc. For all we know, it could just be a graphics update. And a shitty one, I might add, with the shiny tanks and so on... I just hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I'll still love ArmA to bits but the way it's looking now, I'm really disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 0 Posted March 4, 2006 A real successor to OFP would be a ''next generation game'', and not the ''refurbished OFP'' this is turning out to be. The only thing that makes ArmA a real successor to OFP at this moment is the fact that it will be standalone, in other words not requiring an existing OFP installation. Less graphics ''improvements'' and more gameplay improvements would make it a real successor to OFP. But all BIS does is reveal questionable and as it seems half finished/ugly graphics updates and not much in the way of gameplay updates. Not in interviews and not in official press releases. Like Codarl mentioned, we want among other things multiple gunner possibilities, moving around in vehicles, swimming (but keeping it realistic). Things that people have been asking about for years. Let's face it, if all we cared about was pretty graphics, then we would all be playing BF2 and not OFP. What company would release screenshots of stuff that isn't anywhere near finished? I think BIS was quite content with the progress so far, but reading this thread I can sense that quite a few fans and addonmakers disagree... Yep, I agree with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codarl 1 Posted March 4, 2006 http://ofp.gamepark.cz/news/pics3/OFPInfoShot01.jpgIs that a WIP tank in the far left hills? Took me awhile before I understood the phun, nice one though . (Think it's a seagull btw ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinovic 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Sometimes I think some people mistake ArmA for OFP/Game 2... Well, some time ago they said that ArmA is turning out to be a game2 of it's own. They just meant it has lots of improvements but still, it's the flashpoint one engine, game2 stillremains game2, and Arma is still just an update. It's not the sequel to operation flashpoint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted March 4, 2006 ever heard of advertising They need people to buy it so they make a big fuss about it. What game developers don't? I don't care. I just think it's time for some people to come back to the ground and stop anticipating an all new game. It will still be OFP in one way or another. Brushed up, polished up but the really fancy things we'll get when the next generation game comes out (hence the "next generation") The problem is that all the things that we have been wanted BIS to brush up on hasn't been. Like AI, pathfinding, colission detection, multi gunner, moving in vehicles, etc. For all we know, it could just be a graphics update. And a shitty one, I might add, with the shiny tanks and so on... I just hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I'll still love ArmA to bits but the way it's looking now, I'm really disappointed. All the features we asked is going to be implented into VBS1 and VBS2 we get only graphics update Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorbtek 0 Posted March 4, 2006 I'm pretty sure the reflection on the tank is just an example of the effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ti0n3r Posted March 4, 2006 Sometimes I think some people mistake ArmA for OFP/Game 2... Well, some time ago they said that ArmA is turning out to be a game2 of it's own. They just meant it has lots of improvements but still, it's the flashpoint one engine, game2 stillremains game2, and Arma is still just an update. It's not the sequel to operation flashpoint. I was just pointing out that they actually said so themselfs. I think we all know what they meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
martinovic 0 Posted March 4, 2006 I was just pointing out that they actually said so themselfs. I think we all know what they meant. I understand but some people seem to be very disappointed in a way and i don't understand it elsewise as them expecting Armed Assault to be the next Flashpoint - which it clearly isn't - it has no _drastic_ engine improvements, i mean if Arma was the sequel i'm sure that BiS would inculde the "lego type" building system that game2 has in it already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funnyguy1 0 Posted March 4, 2006 I don`t know what to think... Although It`s gonna be great game anyway, It`s hard to even think that some of the features, that were thought to be implemented in arma, are missing. Those things are so important... Anyway, the best interview yet ppl from ofp.info.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeMeSiS 11 Posted March 4, 2006 Im still wondering how the building-destruction will be handled, i hope like in VBS1, because the OFP way is very outdated... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codarl 1 Posted March 4, 2006 ever heard of advertising They need people to buy it so they make a big fuss about it. What game developers don't? I don't care. I just think it's time for some people to come back to the ground and stop anticipating an all new game. It will still be OFP in one way or another. Brushed up, polished up but the really fancy things we'll get when the next generation game comes out (hence the "next generation") The problem is that all the things that we have been wanted BIS to brush up on hasn't been. Like AI, pathfinding, colission detection, multi gunner, moving in vehicles, etc. For all we know, it could just be a graphics update. And a shitty one, I might add, with the shiny tanks and so on... I just hope I'm wrong. Like I said, I'll still love ArmA to bits but the way it's looking now, I'm really disappointed. All the features we asked is going to be implented into VBS1 and VBS2 we get only graphics update You guys rock at seeying everything the dark way, seriously . the collision detection has already been improved in OFP:E , AI improvements have been confirmed in thesame interview this thread is dedicated at! Frankly, I think this community is getting more and more extreme, there's the people that are dissapointed in ArmA the more they learn (actually just "see") about it, and people that think Bis will dominate the world sales with this game... I really wonder what Bis thinks of this . EDIT: is this a sunset? If so, I think that's awesome! the sun is behind the clouds! shining trough them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DBR_ONIX 0 Posted March 4, 2006 Quote[/b] ]What company would release screenshots of stuff that isn't anywhere near finished? I think BIS was quite content with the progress so far, but reading this thread I can sense that quite a few fans and addonmakers disagree... "What company would release screenshots of stuff that isn't anywhere near finished?" a smart on, in my opinion... It keeps peoples interest, gets their comments/opinions, and stops "the game's dead?!" rumours.. I honestly think whatever BIS release, aslong as it greatly improves performance, has a (even small) graphical update, and works with OFP addons, it'll be a good game, so they'll do okay with it (Look at what happened with OFP), and what other game can boast having 4 years worth of addons for a just-released game? Quote[/b] ]For all we know, it could just be a graphics update. And a shitty one, I might add, with the shiny tanks and so on... "For all we know" could work either way.. It might be the bestest graphical update ever with the bestest AI improvements etc....... As fun as it is randomly guess what's going to happen with OFP, and what BIS will do etc.. The only sure way to know is to wait a few months, when the game should be released.. (Both from the release date, and if they leave it too long, the game will be "far too old" and do crapply) Most importantly, I just hope BIS market the game well - Ben Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 0 Posted March 4, 2006 EDIT: is this a sunset? If so, I think that's awesome! the sun is behind the clouds! shining trough them! Â That pic does look nice.. Â That's one thing you can most always say about OFP/ArmA, the wide views have been amazing. (and gotta say I'm impressed with the 'grass in my face' of this game. Much better than any other I've seen, not blinding the player.. and more real) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Tea 0 Posted March 5, 2006 A Demo of ARMA would be good for advertising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted March 5, 2006 I'm pretty sure the reflection on the tank is just an example of the effect. Well I'm hoping. I'm hoping it is a presentation of a technology, and not that the reflections will be present on combat painted equipment. Looking forward to the JIP and all that, just hoping these graphics are actually playable. Some captures we see are quite good, some are just too shiny/reflective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted March 5, 2006 Damn, i missed this one . It looks great for a wip, i agree on the overdone lighting/reflection and the layout of those towns/object placement but overall its very promissing graphics wise and the vehicals and vegetation look really great. It should look fantastic once it reaches gold. Im happy, thanks BIS and ofp.info . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites