ArmA Progress Updates

[stegman 3]

I guess there is no official story yet. Once the game has been signed for release then i would beleive we will see a web site bassed on the game rather than a web site about the game (that we have now). People who don't know about OFP probably don't know about ArmA either. So when a publisher has been setled, then a "real" site will come out.

Also @ Maddmat;

Quote[/b] ]Sometime last year bis mentioned that they were putting up a new site.

...they also mentioned ArmA was scheduled for release last Month, this month and next year too!

[sniperandy 0]

I can tell you right now that 505 will get this advertised quite well... you will see soon...

[oneoff 0]

Quote[/b] ]I can tell you right now that 505 will get this advertised quite well... you will see soon...

lol what they gonna do have a tv mini seires called william tell, lasting 3 months and when the come to release the box set after the first season they realise , the shops are already full of knock down german versions that you can patch with english subtitles made by fanboy Mc enterprise .

i aint a publisher so i shouldnt try to second guess.

but i am human and i am old and i have experinced , i can hardly keep it to myself that with all this tv advertising and so on so forth

i really do think that 505 games have shown tther noob status in pc games. its bad enough that ea and the likes do this stuff for bf2 and the others , arma simply dont need it ( read ofp ).

in essence altho it will have no effect on arma sales either way , i do think 505 are dropping a major bollock on this one.an i say that knowin it means jack sh.t to me wether they do or dont advertiose ,the wait will still be tthe same

to be honest even the original statement dosent look right agianst a bis game. 505 games will advertise this ...... you will see. err we have seen we are trained in the arma way of seeing , if we see any more the videos and tech demos the pictures etc i will feel like i already played it lol.

sorry but i gotta laugh, i never thought i would se such a thing in a bis forum , Bis are absolutely fantastic , they said they wee making arma more mainstream and that .statement is so mainstream its fantastic.

[Messiah 2]

i aint a publisher so i shouldnt try to second guess.

its bad enough that ea and the likes do this stuff for bf2 and the others , arma simply dont need it ( read ofp ).

in essence altho it will have no effect on arma sales either way , i do think 505 are dropping a major bollock on this one.an i say that knowin it means jack sh.t to me wether they do or dont advertiose ,the wait will still be tthe same

to be honest even the original statement dosent look right agianst a bis game. 505 games will advertise this ...... you will see. err we have seen we are trained in the arma way of seeing , if we see any more the videos and tech demos the pictures etc i will feel like i already played it lol.

sorry but i gotta laugh, i never thought i would se such a thing in a bis forum , Bis are absolutely fantastic , they said they wee making arma more mainstream and that .statement is so mainstream its fantastic.

thats very clear

Quote[/b] ]i really do think that 505 games have shown tther noob status in pc games.

how? by offering a realsitic release date, rather than one they know they cant make and dissapoint you further? They have experience in publishing, just not the PC market... it should be a minor transition for them.

Quote[/b] ]its bad enough that ea and the likes do this stuff for bf2 and the others , arma simply dont need it ( read ofp ).

in essence altho it will have no effect on arma sales either way

the reason codemasters were a shit publisher was because of the lack of advertising anywhere... i never saw an advert in a pc mag, on tv, even on the internet. I came across ofp via them demo that was passed on to me by my brother.

read ofp? ofp was lucky that it became such a success given the shoddy amount of avertising behind it. Its testiment to its brilliance as a genre leader and a game. Imagine if it had better advertising? Advertising does affect sales, and you'd be an idiot to think otherwise... how do you think EA have sold so many crappy expansion after expansion?

[oneoff 0]

hmm you wrote that to strengthen my point or have i missed yours ?

Quote[/b] ]the reason codemasters were a shit publisher was because of the lack of advertising anywhere... i never saw an advert in a pc mag, on tv, even on the internet. I came across ofp via them demo that was passed on to me by my brothe

exactly and people earned enough money and ofp community became a roaring success, bis lived off there profits for 3 years "quoted from an interview" and i bet codemasters earned there fair share. ofp fans or bis have never been greedy , so like i said originally.

if it aint broke dont fix it, no need for fancy bf2 style advertising ,the game will seel itself make a nice tidy profit and make 2 million plus happy gamers.

[Messiah 2]

some of the editing screwed up

i wasn't agreeing entirely with what you're saying at all - having no advertising is not the way to go - at the end of the day BIS and 505 are companies, they need to make money. Relying on a dying fan base as their sole income is obviously an inept thing to do...

so they rely on the flashpoint community to buy arma, so thats what 37000 people on this forum (of which how many are active?), then perhaps add another 100,000 who know of arma through picking up the odd magazine, and add another 100,000 who played ofp, liked it, and know vaguely about arma and that its a sequel of sorts.

now, for those who arent in that category (about what, 1,500,000) without advertising, without any magazine centre folds, tv slots, newspaper deals and adverts in gaming forums, how do they know that arma has been finished? that its from the makers of operation flashpoint (last they heard they were expecting ofp2) etc etc etc

those values are of course utterly plucked from thin air, but its essentially making a crude point. OFP sold 2 million copies with no advertising, and i think most were won over by a great demo and great potential. Think what it could have sold if codemasters had pulled a finger out and got to work?

EA saw the promise of this genre, and unleashed BF/BF2 etc etc - its sold an amazing amount of copies, even though its a terribly flawed and bugged game, with every incarnation they mass produce out of that place - why? because of advertising.

you may not want the community flooded with BF2/CSS fan boys, and neither do I, but when it comes to keeping a company afloat and seeing a return on what has been a long investment by BI and a huge leap for 505, they couldnt give a flying *cough* who buys their game... its all about the money word of mouth can only reach so many, succesful advertising can reach many many millions

[oneoff 0]

ok i undertsand more now.

you have valid points, bis said this would be more mainstream and you resolve by describing how a mainstream game should be published.i agree and cannot argue with this

my point as an ofp player and Bis watcher is

( still waitin for them share to go on market btw ).

there would be no harm in rleasing it before they hype to a solid fanbase adding that + word of mouth onto there later tv mag campaign etc.

why ?

cause its a sure fire winner is arma guaranteed money maker, cause it aint no shit mainstream lets add another expansion 3 months down the line.and thats why word of mouth sold so many in ofp and will in arma, they can use that revenue to support then there mass media campaign.

the reason it wont work for other games is cause they have a shelf life of 2 mins and the word of mout would dammage them no enhance there sales.

just my 2 cents .

back on topic, this is another reason it dont need transtalting .

its already in english

[Messiah 2]

well true of course... but to be honest, it seems more likely that a company like 505 would like to get the game, do the marketing, release it and sit back and relax/start a new project while the money rolls in.... instead of having to manage both a current release and also an advertising campaign.

its each to their own i guess

as for the translation - i think the 'regionisation' (i like to invent words to hide my lack of knowing so many) is more down to the manuals, cover art etc - want to make sure that TOW doesnt mean cock in some other language

[CameronMcDonald 146]

I didn't think Codemasters did that poor a job, I bought OFP when I saw it in a magazine completely unrelated to computer gaming...

...saw it and went, "Holy exploding Humvees, Batman! I must have that darned game!"

[Messiah 2]

lmao

on a sidenote - 505 comfirmed their special edition collectors pack*

looks great

*(note, source of information may be a little unreliable)

[CameronMcDonald 146]

[low light 0]

Now all I want to know is what kind of presentation box it comes in and I'll be pre-ordering straight away!

Is the hand included with the Choke the Chicken...you never know who wants to go hands free on those cold winter nights in front of the porn...I mean internet!

Nice one Messiah!

[Journeyman 0]

Nice montage there!  

[blackdog~ 0]

Thank you for making such an insightful post. I don't know where these forums would be without contributions like this.

[mickuzy 0]

im getting me one of those babies, maybe even make a little shrine to placebo

[Average Joe 0]

Armed Assault?! It comes with the hoffs "Jump in my car!"

[Scrub 0]

Just got back up off the floor

This is why I love this site. You guys are awesome. Now it's my new desktop.

[rundll.exe 12]

Whahaha

A funny ending to this long day for me

[giZrM 0]

Thank you for making such an insightful post. I don't know where these forums would be without contributions like this.

We'd have less of contributions like yours

[Dudester 0]

Am i wrong in thinking that OFP didnt do well at all in the USA, but sold over 2 million copys elsewhere.

[Stendac 0]

I didn't think Codemasters did that poor a job, I bought OFP when I saw it in a magazine completely unrelated to computer gaming...

...saw it and went, "Holy exploding Humvees, Batman! I must have that darned game!"

The hell? Why did they decide to put an ad for a COMPUTER GAME in a magazine completely UNRELATED TO COMPUTER GAMES?

Okay, okay, wait. It depends on what the magazine was about. So what was it?

If it was an issue of Martha Stewart's Living my head is gonna explode.

[chipper 0]

If it was an issue of Martha Stewart's Living my head is gonna explode.

Yeah cause that's Cams favorite magazine.

[CameronMcDonald 146]

Quote[/b] ]Thank you for making such an insightful post. I don't know where these forums would be without contributions like this.

Yeah, guess you wouldn't have a reason to post anything without them.

It was in a surfing magazine, would you believe. Martha Stewart my ass.

[PitViper 0]

Something got screwed up. The Hasselhoff album was supposed to be in the German special edition!

[Messiah 2]

lmao... true