colligpip 0 Posted November 26, 2005 Hello I am trying to convince somebody that is into bf2 to play ofp so they buy aa when its out my question is are there any mods or missions that make ofp a bit like the battlefield games mainly in that you can drive and shoot tanks at the same time i know you can order the bots to do it but they dont drive like in bf2 and a respawn system like bf2s node capture one is capture the island a bit like this i only looke quickly does not seem to be they need to be able to get into it and understand gameplay really quickly they are not 15 in fact they are 55 but attention span of 15 until they get into it then they will like it im sure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TabloMaxos 0 Posted November 26, 2005 Quote[/b] ]mainly in that you can drive and shoot tanks at the same time i know you can order the bots to do it but they dont drive like in bf2 Try the editor Upgrade (Tank with 1 AI). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted November 26, 2005 I reckon some maps in BF style: Battlefield1985 was the first one followed by some who altered it a lil bit then. Also CTI is a more complex version of BF gamestyle IMHO and there are lots of CTI's around. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparky 0 Posted November 26, 2005 Actually you can do a similar stuf with VBS (you can be in a vehicle and shoot from it, with your weapon in hand). You can do almost everything with OFP, and i mean everything. An engine without limits that's why i love Flashpoint. And personally i'll never play a game that is made by EA, cause they are producing commercial titles without anything deep. Titles that are made in very little short time and brings all the time expansions just to get my hard earned money i just ignore them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jackal326 1181 Posted November 26, 2005 One thing your friend should understand is, OFP is NOT like BF2 - simple as that. Its far more in depth, and less arcadey, which even the most hardened BF2 fan will have to admit it is, and if they consider BF2 to be an accurate portrail of modern combat, then we should issue them with a rifle, kick them out the back of a truck, and see how long they can bunny-hop around Baghdad for before they get cut down to size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted November 26, 2005 If your mate wants OFP to be more like BF2, then he should play BF2. These are completely different games. BF2 Is more fast paced, and more 'arcadey' than Flashpoint. Gameplay hardly can be called realistic, even if it pretends to be. OFP is much more slow paced. Its VERY easy to die in OFP, thats what puts many people off it. Theres no 'Easy' mode. The Cadet/Veteran is just some scaling options that dont really affect the AI ir you. It is however extremely realistic and immersive. It seems that for the most part, OFP fans can appreciate BF2 to an extent, but alot of people who play battlefield and then try Flashpoint dont seem to 'get it' as such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest major gandhi Posted November 26, 2005 cant somebody make OFP to be it a bit more like Counter Strike, perhaps a mod or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted November 26, 2005 Guys, i think you understood him wrong; he wants to get some of his mates into ofp and he would like to offer them something they know/like from BF2. Once they play ofp they can find out on their own what's realistic or not or that it can be also lot of fun having a buddy as gunner while being driver or commander. And btw - you're right with pointing out the more realism about seperate driver and gunner but unfortunately it doesn't work in multiplayer so perfect like it should - we know that. I just say desync/lag  So sometimes even the more hardcore realism fighters would wish to controll the whole tank on their own in multiplayer  :edit - btw - it's one of his mates (not some) ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colligpip 0 Posted November 26, 2005 thankyou for your replies the reason I wanted a mod to be like bf games is im trying to ween him off the arcade rubbish. actually i dont know if any of you have tried it but the project reality mod for bf2 is quite good ill try some of your suggestions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobcatt666 0 Posted November 30, 2005 VME mod vrs Marines in CTI or cH missions. Beware the AI scripts can cause lag, and infantry firefights using QBC units get really nasty. Far worse than BF2.. All of OFP maps are much bigger as well. Enemy units do not continue to respawn they have to be replaced and there is the major differance. Unless its a played character. A lot of the vehicle units are not avaible seeing the Marine Mods tend to take too long to produce addons and they are too laggy/buggy to be used in most missions. Well you also got ffur Asian Crisis that has JASDF vs PLA, PLA area very hard to go against one set of missions its a three way battle eat vs west vs res. Might contact one of CTI teams to make an actual Marine vs PLA cit mission or do it myself. Seeing have most of the units that are missing created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvEnLeaSe44 0 Posted November 30, 2005 lol to have ofp play like bf2, you would need to change the coding on soldiers to where u get shot 40 times to die. 1 rocket into a tank to distroy it, jump shoot crawl... oh and, alot more bull*hit, so... not such a good idea, just tell your friend that OFP is more realistic. a helll lot more... damn bf2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nephilim 0 Posted November 30, 2005 screw bf2 it sucks! if you want to play bf2 play bf2 not bf2 mod for ofp/arma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gedis 0 Posted November 30, 2005 i hate BF, BF2 and same kind games, except, counter-strike and counter-strike source, because i i'm playing cs over 6 years not for realism but just for funn... about BF and BF2, i hate it! it says in my phrase: "those, who are playing this GAME, are hidding from the real truth" bf is a military game, right? military with no realism? hm... how interesting it should be?! that's why ofp and same kind games are the true, military simulations on PC, those who can't play with these are loosers, if OFP is simulation on PC, what the f*** those battlefielders will do in real combat? ha? run acros the field full with enemys, knowing they have 100% health and after be hit with a bullet run again like nothing happened? Covards! if they can't handle OFP, what they can handle in real life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colligpip 0 Posted November 30, 2005 lol to have ofp play like bf2, you would need to change the coding on soldiers to where u get shot 40 times to die. 1 rocket into a tank to distroy it, jump shoot crawl... oh and, alot more bull*hit, so... not such a good idea, just tell your friend that OFP is more realistic. a helll lot more...damn bf2  what im trying to say is i want to lure the bf2 and counterstrike bunnyhoppers into a game of ofp so i can mow2 em down while they are bunnyhoping across the landscape so if anybody has  a mod that is similar with the node respawn system but not weapon handling etc i can tempt them in and then wehn they try to hop etc they will die then perhaps they can see how stupid they have been and start play proper mans games like ofp i have tried the various cti's they are near the sort of thing im after but not quite Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaycop 0 Posted November 30, 2005 Ehum, aren't you guys taking this whole "BF2 is a crappy warsimulator" thing abit too far? I mean sure BF2 isn't a military simulator, but then again that's the point, it isn't. BF2 is as much a military simulator as CS is a counter terrorist simulator. None of the games has practicly nothing to do with war and such, instead both games serve one point, and that is to entertain which they both do very well in my oppinion. They just happen to have chosen a war theme that's all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eestikas88 0 Posted November 30, 2005 theres no hopping in ofp. hopping=death Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nephilim 0 Posted December 1, 2005 i can tell you reasons why bf2 suxx donkeys dick 1. running w/o shooting (thats fine), but moving prone with shooting .. how screwed is that? 2. carrying several AT missiles 3. jumping with such an immense load 4. game play (RAGAGAHAH!!! 5. the whole game i just eyecandy you need a uber pc to run it just for that crap game. bf2 was intended to be a military sim.title "bf2 modern combat" if this is modern combat then im a telletubbie... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zendjir 0 Posted December 1, 2005 BF2 is not intended as a militairy sim, its all about fast action filled gameplay. The public it is intended for is not a niche group of hardcore militairy sim gamers but the large group of casual gamers who just want to have a good time (C'mon its an EA game!. I have played both games but have never confused the two; when I played OFP I played it for tactical, realistic singleplayer gameplay and when I played BF2 it was for fun, fast, arcadish multiplayer gameplay. I liked em both but have recently uninstalled BF2 because of the way EA treats its customer base (they sure could learn something from BIS). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ade_mcc 0 Posted December 1, 2005 Really, if he can be shown a bit of instant action., then this will help. Think real paintball or one of the many on-line variants. If he still doesn't like what he see's then fine, its well recognised that OFP is not for everyone. Then explain how small scale this is, and that this is just the tip of the ice-berg. Try something with a bit more scale/grandeur. Either he will be caught up in the atmospherics, or turned off because of so called eye-candy (or suposed lack of). But you cant force anyone to like OFP's pace of play. But try and let him recognise himself BF's limitations. Realise that many do not care about realism. End of ramble Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowY 0 Posted December 1, 2005 bf2 is just FUN ...something some of you never had in a game I guess I did not buy bf2 but I sometimes play the demo just for the FUN of it There`s still alot in that game that BiS can learn from or implement(especially the bunnyhopping <---j\k For a sim. buy VSB1 and stay there I know you`ll disagree but who cares what you think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colligpip 0 Posted December 1, 2005 look i didnt start this thread as a discussion about bf2 v ofp i just wondered if anybody had made a mod like bf2 we all know bf2 is arcadey ofp is a sim i just wondered if anybody had coded a node based respawn system like bf2 has one where you capture a node the flag changes bots and vehicles respawn at the next node etc i know cti is similar but not quite what im after perhaps this dynamic ai thing being made on another thread will be what im looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nephilim 0 Posted December 1, 2005 that gameplay like in bf2 can be done in ofp no doubt im not usre if anyone has done though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
granQ 293 Posted December 1, 2005 this sounds like "mature kiddos" screaming "i hate fags".. come on, dont make it a flame war about how much you hate Bf2.. its not like you gusy are FORCED to download anything or need to work on people ideas. Should i start flame all wwII addons threads about "play Hidden and dangerous if you want soldiers and realism"..? I think its a great idea..90% of all mods/addons in ofp doesnt change the gameplay really, it only changes the "visual" quality and some aspect more realistic then default bis ones. I am really looking forward the CoC mod, the halo one (if not dead), star wars mod.. because they are really using the engine to make new "games" and not just "new stuff in ofp". Also, wouldnt it be great to just buy OFP and get "bf2" mod for free, so you can have that 20-40 mins fast action with lots of tanks, choppers, diffrent classes before the nights session of serious coop. If i find the time, thats the kind of stuff i will make when armed ass is released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-)rStrangelove 0 Posted December 6, 2005 The strong squad gameplay is what BF2 has in common with Opf, but that's it. You can't really compare them. (I like & play both games btw but maybe that's because i'm in a bf2 clan) However, it's possible to use scripting to almost get the same mission szenario working as in Bf2 (switching roles, squad gameplay, respawn, vehicle reload & repair, capturing flags, commander view system etc) but it's a whole lotta work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 0 Posted December 6, 2005 It wouldnt take that much. Just ahve it that when you capture a node, move a respawn marker to that node. When you lose it, move it back to the base respawn. Have as many respawn markers as nodes so you can move them onto them. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites