GabKa73 0 Posted October 23, 2005 @ Oct. 23 2005,18:14)]Not many, i found only one and that is Enemy In Sight. Why? Because of the nice screenshots? I remember Vietcong and H&D2 (also from Illusion Softworks) both had nice screenshots but the real games didn't deliver anything flashpointish. Let's wait & see ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aus_twisted 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Hollywood style games with these cool effects and graphics with very average gameplay are what the younger gamers buy, theres more money to be made with them. I'm just glad some companies stick to the Simulation side of things in both military and racing games as I like both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Goeth 0 Posted October 23, 2005 @ Oct. 23 2005,18:14)]Not many, i found only one and that is Enemy In Sight. Why? Because of the nice screenshots? I remember Vietcong and H&D2 (also from Illusion Softworks) both had nice screenshots but the real games didn't deliver anything flashpointish. Let's wait & see ... Well it might be too early to say but the screenshots look very much like ofp. Personally i didn´t expect anything like ofp from Vietcong or H&D2, i knew they were going to be small scale fps shooters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AG. 0 Posted October 23, 2005 Hollywood style games with these cool effects and graphics with very average gameplay are what the younger gamers buy, theres more money to be made with them. I'm just glad some companies stick to the Simulation side of things in both military and racing games as I like both. I totaly agree with you! We see only hundreds of Holywood type games on the market. Sometimes i think that those are made like: "buy it, use it once, throw it away". Like hamburgers. Of course it puts lots of money into makers pocket. They get idea, makes it smohow and puts on market, then they get new idea .. and so on and on ... BIs team - Europeans and that says everything ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 24, 2005 aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update. Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted October 24, 2005 Hollywood style games with these cool effects and graphics with very average gameplay are what the younger gamers buy, theres more money to be made with them. I'm just glad some companies stick to the Simulation side of things in both military and racing games as I like both. oh yeh and also dont forget that as we get all these amaizing graphical improvements and games become more and more realistic the gameplay times are becoming rediculously short. A great example would be FEAR where most people we confused as the final product was just a bit longer than the demo (exagerated of course but still very short). So the game industries should rather concentrate on making games fun and long and not super real (just what BIS is doing ). I tired of companies claiming that they have the biggest playtime, meanwhile its true just because their super duper new engine runs at 0.23 FPS on my 64bit processor. fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor 10 Posted October 24, 2005 aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update. Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting. but he can say his public opinion, can't he? [it's a publicforum] i think it's like a censor. Raptor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dowie100 0 Posted October 24, 2005 We are just fed up with the xbox version getting videos and screenshots left right and centre. While we the people that made OFP such a sucess have about 15 screenshots and no info... Its just so close to your release estimate with no news we are just concerned thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klavan 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Reading these posts I can feel excitement, impatience, entuxiasm, sarcasm and so on..... I wonder if I'm the only one that's feeling scared about all the mods teams that are dying or switching to something else (maybe vbs1), mission makers that are tired to work in the ofp's limited environments, addon makers that are ceasing their activities waiting for news but with the concrete risk that they turn their attention to other games...... I'm sure that BIS is not cheating us about ArmA (it simply doesn't make sense), but at this point I think it's clear that the future of community is on the razor's edge. Yes, we can espect a wave of new players (and new modders/addons makers/mission designer with 'em) following it's release, but what's the cost of all this? The experience that could be wasted in the meanwhile is an high toll to pay...... This is what I'm worried about..... Klavan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colt 0 Posted October 24, 2005 I think a lot of this confusion could have been prevented if they had staggered their Press Announcements. In the space of a couple of months we've had news that Xbox Elite is nearly finished, the announcment of Armed Assault and Game 2 and they have commitments to VBS1 community. All of these communities want info on their particular product. Add to this the confusion surrounding Publishers and nothing concrete is coming out and of course this leads to (wild) speculation... But I'm confident BIS will do what's best for everyone. Just hope the AI routines and collision detection from Elite make their way into ArmA ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AG. 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Hei ... fellas ... please stop speculating like that (its nonsence! It just hurts my feelings! I am 100% sure that BIs is not playing with us (that ArmA is just cheap PR )! That would be unbelieveble if that would be true ... thousands of fans would come to Prague protesting and shouting ... WE WANT ARMA WE WANT ARMA! Then the riot would start near the BIs walls ... Hundreds of insured, burned cars, broken windows. Police shooting at riot with plastic bullets. BIs wont do that, thats impossible it would mean the end of BIs So i still support the idea: lets wait, and hope that it will come as stated (Q4 05) ... and speculate ... a little bit ... just tiny tiny speculation among fans in the huge labirint of BIs forums away from Placebos eyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AiRBLaDE 0 Posted October 24, 2005 I heard the United States will not have a publisher for AA, is this true? I hope thats not true . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted October 24, 2005 I heard the United States will not have a publisher for AA, is this true?  I hope thats not true  . Source? At this time everything that doesnt come out of BIS mouth should be disregarded, let OPF:E hit the shelves, im sure we will hear more about ARMA soon after that . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted October 25, 2005 I heard that chimps took over BIS' headquarters and are forcing them to do slave work for them. Seriously though, I agree with Heatseeker that we will probably hear something when OFP:E hits the shelves. I am thinking that maybe on October 28th we will get some news because that would be exactly one month from when the new screenshots were put on the Armed Assault site. Keep up the good work BIS, fight off those evil evil chimps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Are you guys saying take a deep breath, and relax for a while? Or maybe, after ArmA comes out, the mod makers will come back out from the abyss to make addons for such a great game? Or maybe now's the time to enjoy the outdoors before the cold weather really gets going? Hmm, if so.. Â Ok! Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted October 25, 2005 Don't know about there, but it was freezing here today. But then again maybe you are right maybe I should go enjoy the nice fall colors outside while I wait for my dream game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted October 25, 2005 aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update. Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting. but he can say his public opinion, can't he? [it's a publicforum] i think it's like a censor. Raptor You're welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I'm coming from. Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schmerzbringer 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Yes yes but I think: Why not? Maybe it´s his way to tell us that he is waiting for Arma as hard as we do. Not everyone can write his opinion in so a "polite" way as you do or most of us. But he is joining us, and he spends his time in this forum, so he is a great BIS-Fan too, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrBobcat 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Quote[/b] ]Placebo- You're welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I'm coming from. Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine. + Quote[/b] ]schmerzbringer-Yes yes but I think: Why not?Maybe it´s his way to tell us that he is waiting for Arma as hard as we do. Not everyone can write his opinion in so a "polite" way as you do or most of us. But he is joining us, and he spends his time in this forum, so he is a great BIS-Fan too, of course. I think what he is trying to say, shmerz, is that sharing your opinions are one thing, constant negativity and a lack of constructive comments are another.  Placebo isn't trying to run a dictatorship, nor is he censoring anybody. It's his job. Duh Well I can see where some of nx-illusion's comments are coming from (I too am anxious about the whole damn dilemma), some of his comments were plain-and-simply rash and not well thought-out. BIS is a very small company in comparison to others. It was/is working on 3+ games at once. Not to mention publisher woes which would most defintely interfere with development. Think twice before playing the "bitch card." It makes you look like a n00b. Now I ain't a "mindless fanboy". I just have common sense. And yes, I know you are all anxious about ArAs, but good things come to those who wait. (Yes, I know, that's been said a lot too.) Suck it up. Sit up straight. Grow some balls (or ovaries, you ladies) and calm down. Information WILL be released when it's READY to be released... Caz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schmerzbringer 0 Posted October 25, 2005 I think I understood placebo. But I think I understand nx_illusions´s resentment also. His writing type is serious, that´s right, but I try to understand his motivation too. However. ARMA ´ll come earlier or later, who cares, as long it comes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snoops_213 75 Posted October 25, 2005 @DrBobcat Well said, and nuff said! One note of intrest was a recent OFP:E preview by a forum member saying that there are/were a number of teams working on ArmA/ Game2 while he was at BIS HQ. So do we really believe that ArmA is a joke? Looking forward to some news (gonna shit when the games actually comes out, yes its coming), as I hit all the ArmA sites as soon as I get online PS. Build it and they will come(back). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nx_illusion 0 Posted October 25, 2005 aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update. Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting. but he can say his public opinion, can't he? [it's a publicforum] i think it's like a censor. Raptor You're welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I'm coming from. Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine. Your Evil @!"¤Å@€Å$!!! Ban me if you want thats anyway best you can do on this forums... If we cannot say our opinions! Yes i know this is your forum but anyway you have to realise that very very small mount of people is playing OFP! Its over OFP is DEAD and if Armed Assault or what ever you will call it will have only a some freaking update than i can say you have failed! And those people who are yelling all the time ooohh... this is OFP its so realistic very good gameplay etc etc... Thats all bullshit! WAKE UP!! There is lots of games that are good 3D action. Games arent suppost to train people to kill with somekinda of "war simulators" Games are made to have fun, enjoy your time, not for killing russians (BTW czech did it very directly against Russians i think they still have negative opinions about russians in Prague) Well iam out of here! Wont play AA or OFP this is my opinion! Iam sure that AA is made only to get some pocketmoney for BIS! Making an update for 4 years??.. You really must suck! I know soon Placebo will remove this post! Becouse he knows but can not accept this! You must be really a shimed! cya in the next life when you will make your second update! nx_illusion OUT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor 10 Posted October 25, 2005 aaahhh who the hell cares now.. There is coming lots of good 3D action/war games from other game makers. Bis are making very very slow work if it takes 4 years to make a 1.5 update. Repeatedly making negative comments is tantamount to trolling, if you no longer are capable of saying anything remotely positive please refrain from posting. but he can say his public opinion, can't he? [it's a publicforum] i think it's like a censor. Raptor You're welcome to search his posts over the last couple of months to see where I'm coming from. Making your opinion known once or twice on similar issues is fine, repeatedly beating the forum with your opinion of sorrow and woe and angst is not fine. Your Evil @!"¤Å@€Å$!!! Ban me if you want thats anyway best you can do on this forums...Its over OFP is DEAD and if Armed Assault or what ever you will call it will have only a some freaking update than i can say you have failed! And those people who are yelling all the time ooohh... this is OFP its so realistic very good gameplay etc etc... Thats all bullshit! Thats bullshit! OFP have a big community, the community here is bigger than most of other communities. Not permitted to say his own opinion is one thing, but to to make the Community and special OFP down isn't acceptable! Raptor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aus_twisted 0 Posted October 25, 2005 That post makes me laugh, just think how long it's taken some of the most popular games to be developed in recent times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schmerzbringer 0 Posted October 25, 2005 I.... I.... I want to annul my previous posts. nx_Illusion, please go . I think you haven´t sleep for a long long time, a year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
