USA Politics Thread - *No gun debate*

[Zipper5 74]

You're watching YouTube movies about the "New World Order" and "Amero", stating what you believe to be fact yet you got it from a Google search (or Fox News, neither is better than the other in terms of facts... Well, at least Google doesn't talk much) believing that they could be the start of World War 3, heck, that they even exist like a cult and are plotting our demise.

And before you say no i wouldn't, Ive already been in a war.

Ah, that explains it. Ever heard of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?

[froggyluv 2136]

This is case and point why most Americans don't take the Anti'Govt/Patriot groups all that seriously. They scream and shout about all of these vague accusations that the Gov't is out to get us all -like the bogeyman- yet we all go on living and enjoying our capitalist ways. I've been hearing this talk for over 30+ years, when i was a boy, and still wake up to a free America. I pay my bills, incur debt of my own fruition, create businesses, help out kids of imprisoned fathers, buy and sell as I please.

I wonder, if when these guys are in their 70's, 80's years of age, if the country operates in exactly the same way, will they even then say "huh, guess I was wrong"? -yet I suspect it will be more like "Junior, go out back and grab the ammo, somebody's coming..."

...that would make the shadowy puppeteer group well into their 150's years of age :eek:

[pviera11 10]

You're watching YouTube movies about the "New World Order" and "Amero", stating what you believe to be fact yet you got it from a Google search (or Fox News, neither is better than the other in terms of facts... Well, at least Google doesn't talk much) believing that they could be the start of World War 3, heck, that they even exist like a cult and are plotting our demise.

Ah, that explains it. Ever heard of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?

Mmmmmm so let me get this right, they say New World Order almost daily in the open on TV, that means nothing right? The government has messed around with eugenics in the past, and now they are talking about doing it again, that means nothing right? They are now planning to declare martial law in Chicago, that means nothing right? Anyone who is against such an organization is called a terrorist, that is nothing right? There is the georgian guide stones that were funded by unknown? That is nothing right? How about the words on it? That really means nothing right? I have facts, and proof to back up what I'm saying, i could drop over a month worth of audio clips, and writings from people currently in the government, and as obama's csars about all of this. But that wouldn't matter, because like i said before. People like you deny everything that may even a little bit interrupt your daily lifes, you couldn't live without your TV, your computer, your cellphone, etc. You would rather hand over your personal freedoms to fight a fake enemy. Even if you don't believe what i believe in. I will be prepared when it happens, and nothing will happen to people like you unless if we win. So keep supporting the socialist government we have now.

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This is case and point why most Americans don't take the Anti'Govt/Patriot groups all that seriously. They scream and shout about all of these vague accusations that the Gov't is out to get us all -like the bogeyman- yet we all go on living and enjoying our capitalist ways. I've been hearing this talk for over 30+ years, when i was a boy, and still wake up to a free America. I pay my bills, incur debt of my own fruition, create businesses, help out kids of imprisoned fathers, buy and sell as I please.

I wonder, if when these guys are in their 70's, 80's years of age, if the country operates in exactly the same way, will they even then say "huh, guess I was wrong"? -yet I suspect it will be more like "Junior, go out back and grab the ammo, somebody's coming..."

...that would make the shadowy puppeteer group well into their 150's years of age :eek:

Lets take it from your point of view, we've been saying since 2004, the economy is going to collapse, and we kept telling you. People like you said YOUR CRAZY, GO PUT BACK ON YOUR TINFOIL HAT. 8 years later. Oh no the economy collapsed!!!! Like i said i have plenty enough proof that your freedoms are being taken away each and every day.

[Zipper5 74]

Well done for predicting the collapse of the economy. You know, because that hasn't happened at regular intervals throughout human history...

Please tell me how you know any of what you said to be fact. Because it's on TV all the time? TV is mostly garbage nowadays to the point of being brain-rotting. The internet? Don't get me started. And lol, Martial Law in Chicago? So the American government is just going to declare that in their own country for no apparent reason? Man, why isn't this all over Fox News?

Show me some of your sources, I'd like to see them.

[pviera11 10]

Well done for predicting the collapse of the economy. You know, because that hasn't happened at regular intervals throughout human history...

Please tell me how you know any of what you said to be fact. Because it's on TV all the time? TV is mostly garbage nowadays to the point of being brain-rotting. The internet? Don't get me started. And lol, Martial Law in Chicago? So the American government is just going to declare that in their own country for no apparent reason? Man, why isn't this all over Fox News?

Show me some of your sources, I'd like to see them.

Was on Fox, CNN, etc.

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Well done for predicting the collapse of the economy. You know, because that hasn't happened at regular intervals throughout human history...

Please tell me how you know any of what you said to be fact. Because it's on TV all the time? TV is mostly garbage nowadays to the point of being brain-rotting. The internet? Don't get me started. And lol, Martial Law in Chicago? So the American government is just going to declare that in their own country for no apparent reason? Man, why isn't this all over Fox News?

Show me some of your sources, I'd like to see them.

Also history repeats you say, so then you admit that governments always fall through history, civil wars, genocides, economy collapses, corruption, corrupt politicians, and organizations that try to take over the world, have been around for thousands of years right? Or does that only work in your case for the economy?

[Zipper5 74]

Still no sources? I fail to see the facts without legitimate sources.

(Fox News does not count as one, by the way. ;) )

For as long as humans have been around multiple variations of those events have occurred simply due to our nature as human beings, not secretive underground cults that supposedly exist and are trying to undermine humanity as a whole.

[pviera11 10]

Still no sources? I fail to see the facts without legitimate sources.

(Fox News does not count as one, by the way. ;) )

For as long as humans have been around multiple variations of those events have occurred simply due to our nature as human beings, not secretive underground cults that supposedly exist and are trying to undermine humanity as a whole.

Sure get msn, and ill give you days worth of information for legitimate sources, if your not willing to do that, then please don't comment any further on my comments.

[HG_Havok 10]

Imagine ............................ no liberals. :yay: :)

[pviera11 10]

Imagine ............................ no liberals. :yay: :)

I can imgaine no democracts, liberals, socialists, communists, globslists, NWO, and idiots. That would be my perfect world.

[Zipper5 74]

So essentially you want a world with no order. Chaos would erupt, it always has, it always will. The main thing that has put an end to your mentioned conflicts is reinstating order and authority, be it in many different ways. For you to make such a bold and utterly naive statement like that puts your credibility even lower than it was when you stated Amero was real and is likely to take action soon.

So, forgive me, but I think one of the number 1 rules of the internet is to not give contact details to people you perceive to be crazy. Why not post them here? This is a discussion involving others than just you and me after all.

[Infam0us 10]

Sure get msn, and ill give you days worth of information for legitimate sources, if your not willing to do that, then please don't comment any further on my comments.

Why should he have to give you his personal information to prove a point? Can you not post it here for everyone to see, or do you fear that your so called "sources" will be laughed at by everyone here.

Post them here for everyone to see. If your not willing to do that, then please don't post any further comments.

[pviera11 10]

So essentially you want a world with no order. Chaos would erupt, it always has, it always will. The main thing that has put an end to your mentioned conflicts is reinstating order and authority, be it in many different ways. For you to make such a bold and utterly naive statement like that puts your credibility even lower than it was when you stated Amero was real and is likely to take action soon.

So, forgive me, but I think one of the number 1 rules of the internet is to not give contact details to people you perceive to be crazy. Why not post them here? This is a discussion involving others than just you and me after all.

Ok so i went from supporting a republic within an hour to wanting anarchy? Are you an idiot? Ive never said once in this forum, that i don't want any government, i have been simply speaking about the NWO which wants one world government which i don't want, that doesn't mean i want a government at all, but again another idiot typical American. I don't even want to count you people are Americans. Utterly naive statements? I gave proof to back up almost everyone of them, and I'm not going to put over 50 links onto this page and waste my day, when i could copy them over into an msn window within 2 minutes. If you want to know then you, your self contact me.

Also how about the Amero that has already been made? How about the Amero that has been shipped to China? How about NAFTA? How about the politicians who have spoke about trying to make the North American Union? How about your friendly channel CNN where economists went on and talked about the North American Union? No one can be nuts from that news station right?

[ryguy 10]

Sure get msn, and ill give you days worth of information for legitimate sources, if your not willing to do that, then please don't comment any further on my comments.

Yea, turns out you could post quite a bit of information right here. If it reaches the limit, just start a new post :)

[pviera11 10]

Link 1

Link 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc&feature=related

Link 3

Remember i dont like finding this shit off of youtube, but this seems like this is the only things you idiots look at.

Also please ignore what people write all over the video just listen to the audio.

Edited September 8, 2010 by pviera11

[froggyluv 2136]

Imagine ............................ no liberals.

but then Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Palin would have nothing to talk about -and that could cause the apocolypse! Seriously, people that hate other parties don't just stop hating -they are addicted to having a scapegoat to blame so they don't have to take any responsibility. If the Country were all conservative, you would eventually see them splinter into more Right-Wing and less Right-Wing with the latter becoming your newly crowned "Liberal!"

I can imgaine no democracts, liberals, socialists, communists, globslists, NWO, and idiots. That would be my perfect world.

Now wait a cottonpicken second here -you stated earlier that Republican and Democrats are the same and just as guilty in their New-World-Order shenannigans -so why aren't conservatives on your "wish to die" list eh?

And shouldn't all perfect world fantasies involve supermodels,pizza and suds?!?

[Zipper5 74]

I too am not American, so don't worry about trying to not call me American.

If you didn't say you don't want governments, what does having no

democracts, liberals, socialists, communists, globslists, NWO, and idiots.

leave us with, exactly?

I don't believe CNN to be a 100% legitimate source of factual news, it just so happens that Fox News is the lowest on the list along with Sky News (they're both owned by Fox anyways). They are nothing more than entertainment news which is often over-exaggerated and sensationalized to gain publicity.

I don't want sources from YouTube. If you don't want to have to show us that because it's all we apparently will watch, then show us the other stuff, because I won't watch stuff from YouTube when looking for hard facts.

[pviera11 10]

but then Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Palin would have nothing to talk about -and that could cause the apocolypse! Seriously, people that hate other parties don't just stop hating -they are addicted to having a scapegoat to blame so they don't have to take any responsibility. If the Country were all conservative, you would eventually see them splinter into more Right-Wing and less Right-Wing with the latter becoming your newly crowned "Liberal!"

Now wait a cottonpicken second here -you stated earlier that Republican and Democrats are the same and just as guilty in their New-World-Order shenannigans -so why aren't conservatives on your "wish to die" list eh?

And shouldn't all perfect world fantasies involve supermodels,pizza and suds?!?

Ok and I'm sorry, republicans, and those idiots who call themselves conservatives but have no clue what conservatives really are.

[froggyluv 2136]

Well after watching those 3 links one thing is clear -we are all in serious...

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[Cotala Studios 10]

Lol so you just basically said it sucks that people can burn qurans and bibles, and show other acts of discrimination a peaceful way without being charged with something? I guess you also supported the free speech zones in the democratic convention.

well good sir, now is a time where i call upon a quote i heard long ago

Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some people such as yourself just abuse the privelage

[HG_Havok 10]

I think what you liberals fail to understand is that conservatives have no need for a government ... we can self regulate ourselves in a manner that won't interfere with other citizens so we require less government.

On the other hand, liberals can't self regulate and need a higher authority to help them out. And because they can't self regulate they think that no one can so they have to impose "big authority" on everyone. Very selfish indeed, but we have learned to just laugh it off.

Judgement Day is right around the corner here in America and I'm sure you jackboot liberals won't be laughing, but for us real Americans, it will be the biggest laugh of all!

Have fun!

[Zipper5 74]

Judgement Day is right around the corner here in America

Why does the USA Politics Thread attract the crazies? :confused:

[maddogx 13]

Why does the USA Politics Thread attract the crazies? :confused:

Does it matter? Just grab some popcorn and enjoy the show... ;)

[froggyluv 2136]

Judgement Day is right around the corner here in America and I'm sure you jackboot liberals won't be laughing, but for us real Americans, it will be the biggest laugh of all!

What do you mean Judgment Day?

-Jesus is coming back? Please don't hurt him this time! I know he's Liberal and all, but apparently he's quite important.

-Terminator 3 is coming? I'm not sure that insanely armed robots qualify for gun ownership under the 2nd.

-An armed revolt? Well I guess where gonna party like it's 1776

-A conservative takeover of both houses and white house? Been there, done that. Not much to show for it.

And who are the "real Americans"? This sounds Palin-esque. Rural, small town Caucasion Christian Gun nuts? What about us Cherokee, I guess we are the most real, realer Americans!

Why does the USA Politics Thread attract the crazies?

Earlier in this thread, a Tea Party supporter denied that a extreme Radical Right-Wing sect even existed, well here we can see that is not the case at all.

Edited September 9, 2010 by froggyluv

[Zipper5 74]

Given his use of the term "real American" I'm going to go with option 1. :p

[pviera11 10]

I think what you liberals fail to understand is that conservatives have no need for a government ... we can self regulate ourselves in a manner that won't interfere with other citizens so we require less government.

On the other hand, liberals can't self regulate and need a higher authority to help them out. And because they can't self regulate they think that no one can so they have to impose "big authority" on everyone. Very selfish indeed, but we have learned to just laugh it off.

Judgement Day is right around the corner here in America and I'm sure you jackboot liberals won't be laughing, but for us real Americans, it will be the biggest laugh of all!

Have fun!

These people will never listen, but the day will come, and when it does come they will be surprised. Just like the economic collapse we warned them about it 8 years ago. But this time they will be surprised about bigger events that we've been telling them about even longer, but if the events do carry through they will not care at first because it only effects us, but as more and more events happen it will effect them, then the people who did prepare for it, they will be asking them for help, and i for one will not hold out my hand of helpfulness.

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What do you mean Judgment Day?

-Jesus is coming back? Please don't hurt him this time! I know he's Liberal and all, but apparently he's quite important.

-Terminator 3 is coming? I'm not sure that insanely armed robots qualify for gun ownership under the 2nd.

-An armed revolt? Well I guess where gonna party like it's 1776

-A conservative takeover of both houses and white house? Been there, done that. Not much to show for it.

And who are the "real Americans"? This sounds Palin-esque. Rural, small town Caucasion Christian Gun nuts? What about us Cherokee, I guess we are the most real, realer Americans!

Earlier in this thread, a Tea Party supporter denied that a extreme Radical Right-Wing sect even existed, well here we can see that is not the case at all.

I select option 3, then maybe 1, also please do not link me to the tea parties, but you probally will because you want any reason to attack them.

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I too am not American, so don't worry about trying to not call me American.

If you didn't say you don't want governments, what does having no

leave us with, exactly?

I don't believe CNN to be a 100% legitimate source of factual news, it just so happens that Fox News is the lowest on the list along with Sky News (they're both owned by Fox anyways). They are nothing more than entertainment news which is often over-exaggerated and sensationalized to gain publicity.

I don't want sources from YouTube. If you don't want to have to show us that because it's all we apparently will watch, then show us the other stuff, because I won't watch stuff from YouTube when looking for hard facts.

Ok so you are willing to go out now and spend 500 dollars on books? Books from globalists?

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well good sir, now is a time where i call upon a quote i heard long ago

Everyone has a right to be stupid. Some people such as yourself just abuse the privelage

Ok, so i defend their right to burn the quran, and the Muslims right to burn the bible, and i automatically am an idiot? I don't believe in burning any one's holy book, we all have one god, and you are doing nothing but burning your gods words. Also because i defended the peoples rights that also makes me stupid? Sounds to me like someone has some serious issues with freedoms. Edited

Edited September 9, 2010 by pviera11