gandalf the white 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Quote[/b] ]WARNING: The following film show a Russian MI-24 Hind being shot down by a Chechyan Muslim Guerilla.I have not yet viewed this film and I won't because I'm thinking about the crew and their families. edit: link not working. so go here <span style='color:red'>>removed<</span> click on gallery. Then its about half way down. The picture shows a guy with a SAM launcher. the description says "Muslim guerilla launched SAM toward Russian Mi-24 HIND. The missile hit the top of HIND and HIND was going down." Edited by Bordoy on Nov. 06 2004,21:23 Sir. Thank you for the link but I certainly hope for your sake there are no gory or inappropriate links or images on that site. Otherwise I'd advise you to remove it. EDIT Nevermind. I don't see anything inappropriate there. Great resource of videos. Thanks again for the url. i already saw the movie, first thing i thought that hind was hit that it looked just like Operation flashpoint, second thing i thought that it wasn't operation flashpoint... no parashutes, no pilots , just a one way ticket to the ground... and the "allah" screaming at the end isn't so great too --- sad yes.... But I want to see French troops in action...anybody have pictures of the war in that place? (not gory ones of course) just want to get a feel for what it looks like and what they're up against. war isn't nice, people got shot to bits out there, but since that's not the footage you want to see... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Desantnik : Ivory Coast these pictures are now a little bit old as they were taken a the beginning of the deployment in the first couple of weeks of Licorne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baphomet 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Quote[/b] ]no parashutes, no pilots , just a one way ticket to the ground...and the "allah" screaming at the end isn't so great too  Well to me it looked as if the thing was autorotating or at least in for a somewhat hard but survivable landing. They were hella far away from the guys who shot them down so it's conceivable that they could have been noticed by the Mi-17? That preceded them? The obnoxious screaming of allahu ackbar didn't contribute much. However. The guy did make one hell of a shot it seems. www.militaryvideos.net has some video of the french training on the firing range with their Famas. Which has an interesting sound. I think it's bundled with some other videos. Norwegian firing range drills I think (which you can truly appreciate how awful the SA80 is for jamming). I personally recommend watching the operation oluja video. It's taken from a UN guard post I think. You can see some interesting tracers and a big ass rocket launched off in the distance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 6, 2004 5 schools are burning and more European civilians have been aggressed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 6, 2004 a 9th french soldier is reported dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 6, 2004 The victims of the bombings this afternoon were from the RICM, a marine tank regiment stationed 25km far from my hometown. I know personnaly a few persons in this regiment who've been deployed there as part of the two éscadrons leaving poitiers earlier last month. I now officially have one more reason to be pissed off and worried. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 6, 2004 A total of 7 aircrafts are targetted by the French represails : - the two sukhois which took part in today's tragic raid (they've been already destroyed as soon as they landed today) - 5 MI-24 (including one which took part to today's raid it seems) only one aicraft will remain in the Ivorian airforce inventory once we'll be done with these targets http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp....B114CE8 http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp....B114CE8 Quote[/b] ]ABIDJAN, IVORY COAST: The Librarie de France bookstore in Abidjan's chic Cocody quarter burns 06 November 2004. Young "patriotic" partisans of President Laurent Gbagbo looted French property in Abidjan after French armed forces stationed here destroyed two government military aircraft, it was reported. The French forces retaliated after the Ivory Coast planes had attacked a rebel stronghold in Bouake, killing eight French peacekeeping soldiers and wounding 23. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Very worrisome escalation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raedor 8 Posted November 7, 2004 from what i read (ard.de) chirac decided to send 300 soldiers in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob2002 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Quote[/b] ]a 9th french soldier is reported dead update: an american aid worker was killed also.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Very sad that these people had to die in this way, far from their homes and loved ones... It's a sick world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Very sad that these people had to die in this way, far from their homes and loved ones... It's a sick world. Indeed. There's probably no bigger slap in the face for the families of the deceased, than to know their loved ones died defending some shithole, where the value of peace is considered less worthy than the lust for power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 7, 2004 http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6734913 Quote[/b] ]YAMOUSSOUKRO (Reuters) - Loud explosions and gunfire rocked Ivory Coast's capital Yamoussoukro on Saturday and flames could be seen rising from the presidential palace grounds where government helicopter gunships are based, witnesses said."We are being attacked by the French," said an Ivorian solider by phone from inside the palace grounds. Another army source in the base said the flames were coming from Mi-24 helicopter gunships. He said three were based there but did not say how many were ablaze. If it was up to me, I'd just launch an AS30L raid on Gbagbo's palace but I guess this doesn't enter in our mandate and some people may not agree ... This man has been a real pain in the ass, that's all he desserves. http://www.reuters.com/newsArt....6735233 Quote[/b] ]ABIDJAN (Reuters) - The United Nations and France demanded on Sunday that President Laurent Gbagbo end fighting in Ivory Coast after his forces killed nine French peacekeepers in a bombing raid on a rebel-held town.France hit back by destroying most of the West African country's small air force and the former colonial power also threatened to press for a U.N. Security Council arms embargo and other sanctions. Ivorian officials said Gbagbo, elected four years ago in disputed polls, was coming under pressure from France to quit. "It's out of the question," said national assembly speaker Mamadou Koulibaly. "We are going toward a big civil war, an uprising like we have probably never seen before in Africa. I can't see how (French President Jacques) Chirac will triumph." Gbagbo's forces last week shattered an 18-month truce with rebels who hold the northern half of the world's biggest cocoa grower by launching three days of air strikes and sending soldiers into a neutral buffer zone. At an emergency session on Saturday, the U.N. Security Council gave the 10,000 French and other international peacekeepers a green light to use "all necessary means" to stop the fighting. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan phoned Gbagbo twice to urge him to end the violence, which also threatens stability in West Africa where several other states have been plagued by conflicts in the past decade or so. SANCTIONS THREAT France's U.N. ambassador Jean-Marc de la Sabliere said he would seek a vote next week on a draft resolution calling for an arms embargo on Ivory Coast and threatening sanctions against those blocking the peace process and violating human rights. "The Security Council is impatient," said de la Sabliere. France had warned Gbagbo last week not to resume hostilities and was furious at the killing of its nine peacekeepers. Twenty-three other French soldiers were wounded in the bombing raid on the rebel-held town of Bouake. On Chirac's orders, two Ivorian Sukhoi 25 fighters and three helicopters were blown up in the capital Yamoussoukro. France has been caught in the middle of the conflict in Ivory Coast ever since rebels seized the north after a failed attempt to oust Gbagbo in September 2002. Thousands of people were killed in fighting before a truce was agreed in May 2003. The rebels say French soldiers stopped them kicking out Gbagbo when they could, while the president says France should have helped his armed forces defeat the insurgents at the start. Anti-French sentiment has been growing in the government-run south and the destruction of the warplanes on Saturday provoked an angry backlash in the main city of Abidjan and the capital. Thousands of stick-wielding pro-Gbagbo supporters poured onto the streets of Abidjan and marched toward a French military base and the international airport, which French soldiers seized after a clash with Ivorian soldiers. Late on Saturday night, a French military helicopter fired warning shots at demonstrators crossing bridges in the city center, witnesses said. Ivorian soldiers tried to shoot down the helicopter from the other side of a lagoon, they said. Rebel officials in Bouake said Ivorian soldiers had advanced toward the town on Saturday but had retreated after clashes. Aid workers in the town, about 210 miles north of Abidjan, said heavy gunfire could be heard in the afternoon. The United Nations said Bouake was still in rebel hands on Saturday evening. (Additional reporting by Peter Murphy, Silvia Aloisi in Abidjan, Ange Aboa in Yamoussoukro) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bn880 5 Posted November 7, 2004 I saw somewhere that upto 30 Ivory Coast troops were killed by the French. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sanctuary 19 Posted November 7, 2004 French soldiers have opened fire onto french soldiers at the Abidjan airport Is this a typo , or is this for real ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 7, 2004 typo, hopefully new flowerpots for Gbagbo's gardens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iNeo 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Are they still saying it was a mistake? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted November 7, 2004 the Ivorian military officials are trying to cool down the game while the political figures are calling for an uprising against the "french occupying forces" with catch phrases as great as "to each Ivorian his Frenchman".. some say that our reprasails were a declaration of war against them and that we'lll now have to face their anger in a vietnam-like conflict .... bring it on I say ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-RoNiN 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Well, seems like the civil war has transformed itself into an anti-UN war The escalation is crazy It is kind of ironic, people have been moaning about the UN never being heavy handed in peace-keeping missions, now for the first time they are bitchslapping the bad guys for mucking up, and what happens? The conflict escalates to such a level that the original source of the conflict becomes immaterial DGSE should take out that crazy general quick, then maybe peace will come about eventually again... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red oct 2 Posted November 7, 2004 the Ivorian military officials are trying to cool down the game while the political figures are calling for an uprising against the "french occupying forces" with catch phrases as great as "to each Ivorian his Frenchman".. some say that our reprasails were a declaration of war against them and that we'lll now have to face their anger in a vietnam-like conflict ....bring it on I say ... be carefull about saying that. we all know what happened when the profesional retard in the white house said something like that im afraid i don't know too much about the Ivory Coast other than it being somewhere in western Africia. is there any ties to religious extremest's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis6 0 Posted November 8, 2004 I have a question - Did the Ivorian government intentionally strike the soldiers or was it an accident? Either way, if Ivorian soldiers can freely shoot at French helicopters monitoring a protest, I say to hell with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPQR 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Is there any ties to religious extremest's? Not fundamentaly. Much more a question of politics and spreads od seed of civil war. Nationalist propaganda is going at full speed (on ivorian TV : "Because of the french attack against our Air Force, The World now knows about the treacherous frenchs and Chirac's colonialist politics..., rebels armies are more or less destroyed, the rebels leaders are flleing,... and so on" something like that). Ivory Coast National Assembly President's declaration (sorry, in french) Another official declared that they didn't intended to strike the french but the rebels protected by the french troops..." Only collateral damage Kiss my A.. One of our friend who went for duty at the attacked french base at Bouake told us it was impossible to mistake it with a rebel campment. Gbagbo has a good reason for action, the presidential election will come next year... Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Desantnik : Ivory Coast these pictures are now a little bit old as they were taken a the beginning of the deployment in the first couple of weeks of Licorne. That website would be great if it wern't for the little comments all these little prepubescent punks kept dropping in. It would be great to turn it off, or at least comments from those who served in any military. And I agree with Ronin, as everyone insults and claism that the UN has little back bone or spine to stand up, but when they finally strike back after such a accident, it's suddenly too much. I agreed with taking those helicopters away, as leaving them would trust those people with too much fire power considerign that they already attacked a base by "accdient". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spad 64 Posted November 8, 2004 on the picture a mi8 was destroyed too, the ivory air force is no more... expect peace now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
