der bastler 0 Posted November 5, 2004 I voted for one thread, because the last thing we need are political seperated continents. Same goes for political discussion. Closing up borders just because the other side's culture is different is just plain stupid in a world that damn small. For one thread this means that we Europeans could reduce our assault on America's strange behaviour and the Americans could open their mind to different points-of-view. Plus, one could discuss Africa, South America and Asia as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
denoir 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Separating the threads is not a political move but a practical one in order to have good organization and making it convenient for people to keep a discussion going without having to go through tons of pages of unrelated stuf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newiy 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Two seperate threads, mainly because both are extremely broad topics that cover alot of ground, and they are extremely hard to keep track of as they are. Combining both would be a bigger headache. While I don't really post in those threads (being from neither), I do read them once in a while, because I find them extremely interesting and educational. Plus, I might learn a trick or two every now and then. The quality of political debate in these threads, I can safely say, far exceeds that of many dedicated political forums, but that's not saying much . There's also a better representation of viewpoints as well as a better balance of rhetoric and logic in these forums. Believe it or not, it is alot more civil here, even when things get 'heated'. In short, politics should stay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llauma 0 Posted November 5, 2004 I agree with der Bastler.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
der bastler 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Separating the threads is not a political move but a practical one in order to have good organization and making it convenient for people to keep a discussion going without having to go through tons of pages of unrelated stuf. Then you have to seperate the sub-topics as well... American foreign policy European foreign policy European constitution NAFTA ... Imo, international politics is much more interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Then you have to seperate the sub-topics as well...American foreign policy European foreign policy European constitution NAFTA ... Definately not. They belong to either of the threads. 2 topics is enough to put in EU and US affairs + International affairs. And there is the Iraq thread and Mid East Thread where you can speak out too. Personally I think political discussion is what keeps this forum running and I really would not like to see this forum turning into tabloid-style news discussion where only single events get attention then after few posts sink far below. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blackdog~ 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Where's the option for "none at all"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winters 1 Posted November 5, 2004 How about a thread that covers a topic we can all agree on....... Religion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feersum.endjinn 6 Posted November 5, 2004 If you ask me, level of debate in US thread pretty retarded at times. So, I vote for keeping them separate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Consider political topics a bonus to this community. In case you have'nt noticed, this is a game-forum.It is not meant to be bogged down with political topics. Â I have to agree with this, OPF is a international game so i dont see the need to have threads specific to the U.S., E.U., Asia, etc...own politics. I vote international politics thread, one pined thread for politics discussion ONLY is enough and quite reasonable. We all know how much America and americans bashing will happen in a specific U.S. politics thread, leading to unecessary flame baiting and disturbing the so called "OPF comunity". Dont turn this forum into a major political discussion one, plenty of other places for that, this is BIS forums . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted November 5, 2004 You know as well as i do that an international politics thread would be too jumlbed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted November 5, 2004 They should stay seperate, as i would post and 20 minutes later there would be another 20 pages on it and have to read it all to find 1 person replying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heatseeker 0 Posted November 5, 2004 You know as well as i do that an international politics thread would be too jumlbed. Â jumlbed? sry i dont know what that means . In any case, with the end of the U.S. elections, U.S. political discusion will fade away and people will go back to Iraq, terrorism and oil whenever they feel like flaming Bush and America . Also in a specific topic people could post international political news, opinions, events, comparisons betwean their countries politics, etc. Alot more constructive and interesting than the usual "Go here to flame democrats" type of threads . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colossus 2 Posted November 5, 2004 Seperate USA Politics & European Politics threads. Becouse, if it's gone be debate on EU politics it would go on for a long time until somebody talks about USA. Right now the election in US is highly debated, but not EU politics. It's also much more focused on the US politics then the EU sometimes, like now for example. I can agree that I would be better for the mods to just have one thread, but still I think it would be nice to sperated threads. (Ok, maybe that wasn't the best example. I'll come up with a better answer soon ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Oops i jumbled up jumlbed. You knew what i meant anyway....picky so and so.... Anyway, our EU thread shall be free from such flaming. Us Europeans are MUCH more civilised than you americans (just pullin ya leg) I dont think the ammount of flaming will be a problem. Well, by that i mean, Europeans will post in the US topic, Americans in the EU topic, if theres going to be any EU vs US conflict, its going to happen anyway, whatever way you do it. What i see as a problem is when, we Europeans want to discuss X issue, and Americans dont give a shit about it because its not thier issue. Or vice versa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grizzlie 0 Posted November 5, 2004 Ummm... Separating threads here is like separating policies in r/l - impossible to do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted November 6, 2004 I prefer seperate threads, with new threads created when warranted. But what I wouldn't mind, is having the OT Forum seperated into "military, politics, science, other military games and similiar topics " sub-forums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colossus 2 Posted November 6, 2004 If it's gone be seperate threads, would it be possible to make the 'US presidential election 2004' thread to US Politics? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted November 6, 2004 If it's gone be seperate threads, would it be possible to make the 'US presidential election 2004' thread to US Politics? No it will be two new threads from scratch that both contain the same posting guidelines and warnings, things such as flamebaiting should not be responded to but rather reported to moderators, not reporting it but rather participating in flamefests risks the threads being closed. etc. I'm willing to listen to any other suggestions to help the threads run smoothly and to help all sides converse in a polite mature manner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Lib Front 10 Posted November 7, 2004 If it's gone be seperate threads, would it be possible to make the 'US presidential election 2004' thread to US Politics? No it will be two new threads from scratch that both contain the same posting guidelines and warnings, things such as flamebaiting should not be responded to but rather reported to moderators, not reporting it but rather participating in flamefests risks the threads being closed. etc. I'm willing to listen to any other suggestions to help the threads run smoothly and to help all sides converse in a polite mature manner could i ask why? it just seems that the 04 thread was actually moving from the election to US politics in general. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EiZei 0 Posted November 7, 2004 Can't we get those new threads already, it's not like the combined threads option could overtake the split threads in the poll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bordoy 0 Posted November 7, 2004 The mods have just recieved some postal ballots which need counting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placebo 29 Posted November 7, 2004 could i ask why? Quote[/b] ]two new threads from scratch that both contain the same posting guidelines and warnings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Lib Front 10 Posted November 7, 2004 could i ask why? Quote[/b] ]two new threads from scratch that both contain the same posting guidelines and warnings why not just post those in the election thread thread.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harnu 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Woah woah woah! Placebo, are you okay? Here, here, put your feet up, I'll get a damp cloth for your forhead, and some meds for you to take. Presenting a question on the future of something in the forums to the... masses? Have you gone mad!? This is almost representative of... *wispers*<span style='font-size:7.1pt;line-height:100%'>democracy</span>*wispers* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
