DB-ERAUPilot 0 Posted May 14, 2005 hmmm they look nice...heres some more pics I found for ya.. pic1 pic2 pic3 pic4 pic5 US Navy ALLHANDS magazine featuring the SEALS notice alot of the pics are of land warfare...ive noticed ur current SEAL models are more CQB orrientated..I don't know how far indepth ur trying to make em but here are just a couple more pics to help u get a better idea or where u wanna go with it...thanks again for takin up the SEAL addon idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePara 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Looking really good. I second the notion of hoping you make SEALs wearing boonies and such for land-warfare operations as well, that's kind of the more classic SEAL image, if you will. Also, I'd ditch equipping them with reflex sights, those are seldom if ever used anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1in1class 0 Posted May 14, 2005 OK, here's a quick peek on the SEALs... dont know if im the only one but thoes seals look just like ur update units that are out now just with an diffrent patch on the arm an back pack that i can see or is there more to it dont get me wrong i love ur addons just love them keep it up, but those seals look the same as the deltas. make them come in diffrent body armor or diffrent camo with some light helments or tabogen i guess thats how u spell that lol. because seals use no havey helments like the army or rangers use. in some cases thay do but most of the time thay dont they carry mass ammo and well mass ammo because they go in as just them no back up in most missions. put some ammo poutches like on them all around them make them look havey with there gear ammo wise as u can see also in all the pic that have been given on this forum and links just look at them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Everyone has an opinion but bottom line is he's gotta make em like he see's them. Although i do agree you shouldnt go for the CQB look as we already have Delta's for that, i think the community could appreciate a more Boonie Hat camo'd face SEAL than they would CQB ops.. you could probablly throw 1 or two CQB Seals along in the pack just fixed up delta's. Any chance of some woodland camo'd M4's?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThePara 0 Posted May 14, 2005 The bottom line is this, SOF forces do look alike! I doubt any of us could tell the difference between an SFOD-D Operator, SEAL, and SF soldier if they were stacked up next to each other. They all wear very similar gear. Why would he use different camo? SEALs do you use MICH helmets, all the above real life photos should attest to that fact. They also aren't only worn on CQB operations, they are frequently worn on any sort of Direct Action operation. These units reflect a woodland variant of the photos posted for current SEALs rather well, in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DB-ERAUPilot 0 Posted May 14, 2005 I don't think anyone is suggesting different color camo..I think the main idea most people are saying is make them distingushable from the already released addon. The pics and magazine i posted are pretty recent and show what a SEAL team on a "over the horizon" land warfare operation would wear...which is unarguable cause the pics are of actual SEALs doing an "over the horizon" demo for one of the their reunions they hold every year in Coronado. but bottom line is lets not argue and lets all just wait and see what Laser decides and be happy with that..I know what we all don't want is another CANCELLED SEAL addon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1in1class 0 Posted May 14, 2005 The bottom line is this, SOF forces do look alike! I doubt any of us could tell the difference between an SFOD-D Operator, SEAL, and SF soldier if they were stacked up next to each other. They all wear very similar gear.Why would he use different camo? SEALs do you use MICH helmets, all the above real life photos should attest to that fact. They also aren't only worn on CQB operations, they are frequently worn on any sort of Direct Action operation. These units reflect a woodland variant of the photos posted for current SEALs rather well, in my opinion. diffrent camo as in for body armor or what not just an ideal like i said seals some times use mich helmets or havey ones i say, mich i guess is what u mean by havey name brand but seals carry a lot of ammo and since there on recon missions or low key missions well u get the picture they hardly use havey helmets look in the pics u mite find a few useing havey helmets but not a lot with all that gear and ammo. no need for that havey helmet they just carry what they need witch is mostly ammo because they go in alone and when it goes down in an fire fight they lay it down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PraetorianV 0 Posted May 15, 2005 Hi Laser, Finally got my camera back. I was able to get some pictures however I need to get new batteries so I got as many as I could. http://img129.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08047cl.jpg http://img129.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08052sj.jpg http://img212.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08070iu.jpg http://img212.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08080zt.jpg Laser, do you have any plans to incorporate CoCs swimming system into the SEALs so they can well swim to and from their objectives. The units look very promising, perhaps to differentiate between groups you could add SEALs in scuba gear, wetsuits and oxygen tanks. Just a thought, hope to add more pics soon. Additional Pictures (had to reduce their file sizes) http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08188pb.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08100qv.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08115fh.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08155nh.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08124kp.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08136ax.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08162ec.jpg http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08147dc.jpg http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08154dq.jpg http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08176xi.jpg Hope this helps. Sorry if they aren't the best I have to get new batteries. BAS's EOTECH sight view is pretty good ingame, maybe you could use it as well with their permission of course. Any chance we might see your SEALs with their new MK11 Mod 0 Precision Rifle System? I believe it is officially adopted only be the SEALs that needed a more compact SR-25. You can find more info @ http://www.knightarmco.com/mk11mod0.html Great work again (as always) Laser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordy 0 Posted May 15, 2005 Hi Laser,Finally got my camera back. I was able to get some pictures however I need to get new batteries so I got as many as I could. http://img129.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08047cl.jpg http://img129.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08052sj.jpg http://img212.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08070iu.jpg http://img212.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08080zt.jpg Laser, do you have any plans to incorporate CoCs swimming system into the SEALs so they can well swim to and from their objectives. The units look very promising, perhaps to differentiate between groups you could add SEALs in scuba gear, wetsuits and oxygen tanks. Just a thought, hope to add more pics soon. Additional Pictures (had to reduce their file sizes) http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08188pb.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08100qv.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08115fh.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08155nh.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08124kp.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08136ax.jpg http://img73.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08162ec.jpg http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08147dc.jpg http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08154dq.jpg http://img179.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08176xi.jpg Hope this helps. Sorry if they aren't the best I have to get new batteries. BAS's EOTECH sight view is pretty good ingame, maybe you could use it as well with their permission of course. Any chance we might see your SEALs with their new MK11 Mod 0 Precision Rifle System? I believe it is officially adopted only be the SEALs that needed a more compact SR-25. You can find more info @ http://www.knightarmco.com/mk11mod0.html Great work again (as always) Laser. When Taking pictures don't use flash but natural light. Flash destroys the pics. I have a favour of my own if you don't mind. Could you take pics of your mag (sides, front and back)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelios 1 Posted May 15, 2005 A question here, will the SEALs come in early '90s version too? For the SEALs I would concentrate on jungle area type of units. Long range patrol style(with backpacks) and normal operating gear, meaning loads of ammo and no backpack(except medic). We already have excellent CQB/direct action units with the Delta's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruff 102 Posted May 15, 2005 yeah more ammo on them search and destroy unit mostly http://www.navyseals.com/community/navyseals/navyseals.cfm good stories/info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blebleble 0 Posted May 15, 2005 is it possible to put some difference to seals units??example:if you put two machine gunners on a map,they are exactly the same,accept faces.But in real action someone has his knee protectors slipped to his shoes or hasn´t got no protectors phto:photo sory for my english it´s poor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PraetorianV 0 Posted May 15, 2005 Got new batteries for my camera and took some more pictures without the flash. http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08191pm.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08200pr.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08266wh.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08271ts.jpg Gordy: Snapped these pictures of my magazine. Note that it is a pinned magazine it seen easily been seen in the last picture. They are a little blurred I think due to my cropping and resizing since the original files where close to 2 MB in size. http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08250ic.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08212zh.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08229ni.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08234an.jpg http://img19.echo.cx/my.php?image=img08243av.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgtkill 0 Posted May 15, 2005 i cant wait for those seals to be done . good work laser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted May 16, 2005 i cant wait for those seals to be done . good work laser you and me both :-) For any of you who have the Discovery Military Channel, their featuring Navy SEALs in the "America's Secret Soldiers" in the next hour. Current and Future equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DB-ERAUPilot 0 Posted May 16, 2005 just finished watchin "Americas Secret Soldiers" for like the billionith time and noticed something else that could be use to disguise your SEALs Laser, almost ALL the SEAL footage they showed, the SEALs wore they pants untucked covering most of their boots unlike U.S. Army soldiers usually tuck their pants into their boots..i have noticed this alot too in a couple books ive seen also just something else to think about i reckon .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stelios 1 Posted May 16, 2005 They at least had ordnance tape wrapped around their pants at the bottom? They did that in NAM, to prevent all sort of ugly insects to crawl up their legs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drill Sergeant 0 Posted May 16, 2005 What your referring to is "Blousing" and three reasons I can think of off the top of my head as to why it's (Not) done. #1 Ventilation. #2 Blousing the pants requires you to pull them around and gather up the slack, band the pants and tuck them in. If you do this too well, you can march in them just great, but if you bend down on your haunches or try to make any fast omnidirectional moves, your gonna pull your pants out of your boots. Or worse. Down, of course baggy or long pants can cure this strait away. #3 Quick draining so you don't walk off with the lake you just came out of. Certain materials can hold water very well if it gets in. (After washing a camper once, I walked off with 4 non draining pockets full of water.) Â As for insects, Long socks and repelent? Works for me. Also for most asignments a 8 man fire team will only carry 4,500-5,000 rounds of ammunition total. Also the way fire teams are set up, they can change direction by simply doing an about face 180. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExtracTioN 0 Posted May 16, 2005 Hey Drill Sergeant m8 great to see you back man Everyone said you had done a suicede to yourself but now I see you ok I am happy welcome back m8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commando84 0 Posted May 16, 2005 i don't know if this has been said before but i would like the radio in the weapons pack to be bale to have a ammo. it would be very nice because scripts could take great usage of it with commands like "eventhandler fire" sort of stuff and so on And a CAS script like the one bas satcom's are somehow linked to the bas blackhawks, it would be cool if you would implement something like that if you have a chopper in the area or something and then when your radio operator equips with the radio and pushes fire you can hear the radio static sound, but also get a message saying that CAS in on its way, and the chopper would fly to the position of the group Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DB-ERAUPilot 0 Posted May 16, 2005 They at least had ordnance tape wrapped around their pants at the bottom? They did that in NAM, to prevent all sort of ugly insects to crawl up their legs. neg, they didn't have tape at the bottom...most were wear their bdu pants like they were regular pants coverin up most of their boots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FerretFangs 0 Posted May 16, 2005 You also have to keep in mind that these guys can and do insert from the sea. They switch from fins to boots once on land. They then stash their gear, and retrieve it when they exfil. Blousing would serve them no purpose, other than to slow them down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laser 0 Posted May 16, 2005 OK, guys, thanks for pics and info, much appreciated And here's what i've come up with in the meantime. Sure hope there's enough ammo bags on this guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DB-ERAUPilot 0 Posted May 16, 2005 lol...i just noticed what i was talkin about with non-blousing is illustrated in the pics I earlier posted on the previous page...I think ferretfangs is prolly right on with the fact that they don't blouse of the simple fact that it isn't practicle when your gonna switch out of your boots and put on fins or vise versa (check out the pics I posted earlier on the previous page...looks like just what we were tlkin bout) edit...just noticed ur new pics Laser..thas more in the direction of what I think we're looking for..keep up the good work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1in1class 0 Posted May 16, 2005 OK, guys, thanks for pics and info, much appreciatedAnd here's what i've come up with in the meantime. Sure hope there's enough ammo bags on this guy. nice work on that also would be nice to have like an grey type of camo all gray for like sea ops and stuff or black that would be nice just to completly separate them from the Deltas, just an diffrent look on them they look awsome vary vary good work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites